Did Kirk's rather *enthusiastic* execution of Nero bug you?
POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Saturday, January 16, 2010 17:01
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Yes it bugged me a lot. I was shocked and angered by the callous and salacious manner in which Kirk acted. Where was the due process for Nero? Was he given his Miranda Rights? Did he have an attorney present? How can an order for execution be given before a trial and conviction? Where was the FCLU? Just because the guy "allegedly" murdered billions of people doesn't mean he's not entitled to a spirited defense.
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Heh.
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Not really understanding the point of this thread.
Kirk kill a bad guy....big deal. Enjoying killing a bad buy....big deal.
Your turning a fun breezy Trek movie into a morality play. Just watch, and enjoy. The parts you don't like, just shrug them off.
You may have something with the texting generation similarity though. If it feels good do it. Where generation Xr's had a small bit of moral compass, the next generation will be beyond all that.
Anything will be fair game. We should just thank our lucky stars we won't live to see it.
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Quote:I can hover with that, Frem.
Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
I didn't see it as having any explicit nasty motive, as much as Kirk making absolutely SURE that guy was gone.
The laughing Chrisisall
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Happy New Year to all!
Been spending WAY too much time on FaceBook, hence my absence.
Anyway . . .
What everyone fails to take into account here is that these characters are NOT the same ones we were used to. Same names, same surroundings, but different. Nero's initial attack changed EVERYTHING. The most important thing, being that Kirk's father was killed by a homicidal maniac leaving Jim to be raised by another man who didn't have the same ideals as his father did. Thus changing the way Kirk was raised entirely. He didn't have any lofty goals, he didn't aspire to do much more than to be a belligerent ass who picked fights in bars. His father wasn't there to point him on the path of idealistic morality. It just didn't happen. So the Kirk we see in this movie is not really the same one we were used to.
Now let's take a look at Spock. His whole temperament was changed with the death of HIS mother and the admission of his father that the reason for the marriage was not logic, but love. In my estimation, this prompted Spock to embrace his human emotions more freely than Spock Prime did. Thus, HIS character was changed fundamentally by the same homicidal maniac.
I agree with Frem, that with all the mess Nero caused coming through ONE black hole, they needed to make absolutely certain that he wasn't able to survive the black hole consuming his ship, no matter how slim the odds of that may have been. He didn't want to be rescued? Fine. They gave him one last chance and he refused outright. So . . . bye-bye.
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Did anyone read the pre movie comics which outlined Neros motives ?
Just wondering
Either your with the terrorists, or ... your with the terrorists 
Lets party like its 1939
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Quote:I did. It was good, but still...
Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni:
Did anyone read the pre movie comics which outlined Neros motives ?
Just wondering
The laughing Chrisisall
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Originally posted by Geezer:
Not the first time.
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That dude had it coming too.
The T.Rex they call JANE!
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Given that the guy had not only killed Kirk's dad but had murdered an entire planet.... AND Kirk still offered to help him first....?
Nope, not in the least.
"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."
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Originally posted by DMI:
These are questions that might bother me if they pertained to real Star Trek but since that flashy, shaky mess wasn't Trek and that angry, teenaged, afternoon special actor wasn't Kirk, I'm not worried about it at all.
Wow, someone's bitter, and a bit obsessive.
"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."
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