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Wednesday, December 9, 2009 11:36 PM

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Originally posted by chapterandverse:
Oh My God, you are kidding me. You are a special ed teacher?

You have just confirmed all my worst fears. It is particularly enlightening to hear that other people you work with also have a tendency to make derogratory remarks about mentally handicapped children and adults. This is a frightening thought, not a justification.

How broadminded of you to note that handicapped people have "no control" over their condition. Since my sister has Down's Syndrome and has a far more informed outlook on life than you seem to have, I can only note that I am sure that she would overlook your particularly stupid actions and arguments because you clearly have no control over that either.

I, however, am not so forgiving.
You assert that you are not mocking handicapped people. I am clearly not as sophisticated as you because it seems to me that that is exactly what you are doing.

There is no circumstances or context for this "joke." It lacks wit, insight, and wry observation. Though the fact that you are criticizing "people who have normally developed minds who then choose to engage in such a "retarded" manner," and "are very much deserving of such ridicule" shows a lack of self-knowledge that is actually laughable.




Chap, let me ask you a question: Do you enjoy mocking the mentally unstable? Why else would you have that tagline under your username? "Dear Diary, today I was pompous and my sister was crazy"

You DO realize that there are people here who have been institutionalized, and some that are currently insane, suffer from psychotic delusions, and a few who are admittedly bipolar, right? So are you mocking them with your words?


Mike

Work is the curse of the Drinking Class.
- Oscar Wilde

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Friday, December 11, 2009 7:05 PM

Well, I figure anyone on a Firefly site will know that this is a Jayne quip about River, the most kick-ass character in the show, but if anyone thinks that I am mocking mental illness, then I sincerely apologise.
Pompous people can just suck it up.

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Saturday, December 12, 2009 1:43 AM

Storymark, As A special ED teacher I'm sure you understand that humour is a big part of managing for people with isms (so-called disabilities etc). But you must also have become aware of the general population's difficulty in understanding the need for humour and on occasion freedom of expression. I Find changing the terminology useful. E.g. Instead of saying retarded I sometimes use "intellectually undernourished" or socially devolved" etc. people like you and I know what retarded really means. but unfortunately it is a word that is so frequently misused that it has come to be stigmatised as an abusive and offensive term for the general population. I am not trying to annoy anyone by saying this, but as someone with a so called disabilty who frequently deals with said factor by effectively "taking the piss" (I.e. Humorising) I have learned to be creative to avoid the potential to offend.

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Saturday, December 12, 2009 11:01 PM

re⋅tard  /rɪˈtɑrd, for 1–3, 5; ˈritɑrd for 4/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [ri-tahrd, for 1–3, 5; ree-tahrd for 4] Show IPA
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–verb (used with object) 1. to make slow; delay the development or progress of (an action, process, etc.); hinder or impede.

–verb (used without object) 2. to be delayed.

–noun 3. a slowing down, diminution, or hindrance, as in a machine.
4. Slang: Disparaging. a. a mentally retarded person.
b. a person who is stupid, obtuse, or ineffective in some way: a hopeless social retard.

5. Automotive, Machinery. an adjustment made in the setting of the distributor of an internal-combustion engine so that the spark for ignition in each cylinder is generated later in the cycle.

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Saturday, December 12, 2009 11:05 PM

: How do you get a retard to commit suicide?

A: Put a knife in his hand and ask him "Who's Special?"


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Sunday, December 13, 2009 7:25 AM

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Originally posted by chapterandverse:
Well, I figure anyone on a Firefly site will know that this is a Jayne quip about River, the most kick-ass character in the show, but if anyone thinks that I am mocking mental illness, then I sincerely apologise.
Pompous people can just suck it up.



Well, there ya go - It IS a commonly-known quip from a TV show.

Of course, that kind of takes the vinegar out of your anger at StoryMark, since his image is a widely-known image from the web. Been around for years. He didn't make it up.

I'm just pointing out that you're angry about somebody doing something that, when you do the exact same thing, you can't see why anyone would have a problem with.



Mike

Work is the curse of the Drinking Class.
- Oscar Wilde

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Sunday, December 13, 2009 11:09 AM

I was aware of the point you were trying to make, I just don't agree.

Calling River crazy and referring to a Down's Syndrome child as a retard doesn't seem in any way equilvilant. If you had a slogan featuring a "crazy scitzo bitch" and a picture of an real person with a mental illness undergoing shock therapy, that would be about the same. And it would be equally vulgar.

The "it has been floating around the Internet/he didn't make it" defense is irrelevant. Plenty of nasty things have been floating around the Internet for years, but if you post it in defense of your argument on a discussion board, you can and should be called on it if it is offensive.

i still have plenty of vinegar left, thanks.

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Sunday, December 13, 2009 3:12 PM

Well, knock yourself right out, but don't get testy when someone calls you on your hypocrisy.

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Sunday, December 13, 2009 6:22 PM

My point was that I am not being hypocritical, as the two incidents have nothing in common.
Again, I don't think there is going to be any agreement here, so its best left as is.

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Sunday, December 13, 2009 6:59 PM

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Originally posted by KingEICHOLZ:
What you are saying is for Jack jameron4eva to ignore himself he's the troll but you don't have to ignore them just stand up to them like I stood up to TWO I put him in his place now you don't see him around anymore or the bully peacekeeper I put him in his place to.

PEACEKEEPER KEEPTING PEACE IN ALL THE VENCES

I'm sorry, are you referring to me?Firstly, I tend not to respond to your posts because you are a dickhead. Secondly, I am still very much around, I just tend to respond to other forums and threads that you haven't the intelligence to contribute to.And finally, you couldn't EVER put me in my place, coz it is way above you.Oh and did I mention that you are a dickhead?

Peacekeeper---keeping order in every verse!!!

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