Well... here 'Fahrenheit 9/11' is.
POSTED BY: Quicksand
UPDATED: Thursday, March 30, 2006 17:02
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1st and last thing I'll say about this MOCKumentary. Moore is a lying pig. That much is indisputable. I can see NOTHING positive coming from this movie OR discussion of it here on this board.
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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someone said it right:
GREAT MOVIE, DEPRESSING AS HELL.
i didnt need this movie to make me not vote for bush. bush himself made me not vote for bush. my mind was made up a long ago.
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Originally posted by MacBaker:
Ooookay! If his films aren't Documentarys, and they aren't Propaganda films, then what exactly are they?
Facts and "public record" are not exclusive to each other. The headlines "Dewey Wins!" are a part of public record, but last time I checked, Truman actually won that election.
They are opinion pieces, period. The problem is that documentary is the closest category that fits his movie style. He takes the *facts* and paints a picture. As he says, if you want to look them up then go ahead. And as I've stated before, if he uses points of public record that are not true, then he gets sued (especially in this case). You are free not to like the picture he paints though.
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Originally posted by MacBaker:
Read the reviews above, they expose the "propaganda" style fact twisting that Michael Moore is infamous for. He's like P.T. Barnam. He's a showman, but he's no docmentary filmmaker. IMHO
You mean things like "let alone the 2001 attackers" referring to 9/11. Sorry bud, but that little tid bit has been long debunked. You're going to have to do better than that to convince anyone that these reviews are anything more than republican rhetoric serving to cloud the issues.
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Originally posted by MacBaker:
We even considered a hybrid like the Toyota Prius, until we read reports that landfills full of worn out fuel cells will do more damage to the environment, than an equal number of efficient traditional gas powered cars.
That's why you dispose of them properly. You don't throw out your batteries in the garbage, so, why would you toss your fuel cell there. Good god man!
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Originally posted by Please111:
macbaker,
Give me a break. How long have you been waiting to pounce on someone with that load of crap? Tink is absolutely right, and Tink's comment was not partisan at all. But, you took it as opportunity to ram your extremist politics down our collective throats.
It's propaganda when it comes from the left, but god forbid I call Debbie's piece propaganda. It starts with the usual attack/comparison of Bill Clinton. For all the effort that these typical right wing diatribes put into smearing Clinton, they are always heavily biased with little or no substance. I love how she opens up her essay with the response of a 6 year old, "Clinton took vacations too." Vacations aren't the issue. The issue is the amount of vacation time that Bush took when we *really* needed him to be president and not shirking his responsibility.
The minute that this movie was released, the right wing fanatics started blogging on any and every forum on the web to discredit any opinion that differed from their own. If Michael Moore is such a crack pot, what are you/they so afraid of? This country was founded on free speech and debate, but that seems to be something that the right cannot tolerate from anyone with an opposing or different view. If I disagree with Ann Coulter (and I often do), does that mean that I should stop calling her a columnist/pundit and start calling her a propaganda machine? No, because, for good or bad, she has a right to her opinions. I could write for a week continuously about the nonsense that woman spews. But to dismiss anyone completely is to kill free debate -- something this polarized country desparately needs right now.
I completely agree. Even the lowliest among us has a divine revelation from time to time.
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Originally posted by Drakon:
So far, Afghanistan and Iraq have both been liberated from brutal tyrannies. (Something the left is supposed to care more about than we on the right.) There have been no follow on attacks here, yet.
LOL, I stopped reading after I read this because the rest is probably as deluded as this is. Perhaps you should go and read a news paper from time to time. Afghanistan's country side is teaming with terrorists and its recommended that people don't go there. Hell, even the military won't drive, they fly. The only save zones are about a klick from the cities where the forces are, nothing more. They are losing it over there and people are starting to make plans to do something about it. But, one thing is sure, the brutal tyranny that was in is Afghanistan is still very much alive.
I won't even comment on your Iraq delusion. Sheesh, read a paper.
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
1st and last thing I'll say about this MOCKumentary. Moore is a lying pig. That much is indisputable. I can see NOTHING positive coming from this movie OR discussion of it here on this board.
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Wow, I'm convinced!
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Perhaps you should back your comments is you want them to carry any weight.
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Originally posted by Jasonzzz:
Just for future reference:
threads of this nature should go to the
:Real World Event Discussions:
bin
Having that bin was a big agonizing
discussion and we should take advantage
of Haken's graciousness to create a
new bin for that sort of stuff.
Just sent a message to Haken requesting the move. I don't want to re-live that debate.
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Originally posted by SigmaNunki:
That's why you dispose of them properly. You don't throw out your batteries in the garbage, so, why would you toss your fuel cell there. Good god man!
Good god man, how exactly do you dispose of a battery or fuel cell properly? Go visit a landfill, you'd be stunned to see the crap there, including batteries by the truck load!
As a nation, we don't even dispose of nuclear waste properly. Then we spend millions of dollars cleaning up the problem. You live in a fantasy world, which probably explains most of your responses to this thread.
BTW, if I was the right winger you and other small minds believed, I wouldn't be concerned with environmental issues such as this.
I'd given some thought to movin' off the edge -- not an ideal location -- thinkin' a place in the middle.
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