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How messed up are you?

POSTED BY: Iremisst
UPDATED: Thursday, January 21, 2010 23:52
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Monday, December 7, 2009 10:45 AM

Blue Cross Blue Shield is widely recognized as the 'original' insurance company. As such, they are evil. The great evil that comes before evil. Harbinger, one might say. You do well to shun them, good sir.
I'm glad momma and baby made it through without issue.

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Monday, December 7, 2009 1:00 PM

I generally won't go to a doctor unless there are bones sticking out through the skin. And only occasionally even then. Anything less than that, and I just find it too much of a hassle trying to deal with the insurance BS, and too expensive otherwise.

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Monday, December 7, 2009 1:48 PM

The W.H.O. ranks Canada and the UK above the USA on their so-called list. Their list is based upon numbers treated for the cheapest price and does not take into consideration the quality. Would you go to any other country to seek treatment? You get what you pay for... end of story... well not yet.

Example 1 - 70 yr old male in Canada. Bladder Cancer. Waited 6 mo's after diagnosis to remove and have a stoma put in. Neo-Bladder and replacement growth bladder surgery is unavailable. S.O.P. when operating in the stomach region is to take out the appendix. Canada does not follow this S.O.P.... too expensive. 2 days later the patient has his appendix burst and dies after a number of attempts to repair. Real story...My Uncle.

Example 2 - 75 yr old female in Canada. Severe back pain. Needs surgery. She is told she will have to wait 9 mo's for surgery. She waited 10 mo's in extreme pain. Real story...My Aunt.

Example 3 - It is illegal in the UK to purchase a cortisone shot even with a prescription from a doctor if you are 65yrs or older. Hope you don't have severe joint pain. Real story... Uncle on vacation.

The moral of the story... suck it up and pay for the best care or you will get a system where you will not be able to get care even if you can pay.

p.s. Costa Rica ranks higher on the W.H.O. list than the U.S. but I wouldn't rush off to seek care there.

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Monday, December 7, 2009 2:21 PM

I have no health insurance.

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Monday, December 7, 2009 3:08 PM

I'm still relatively young and healthy. I have healthcare but I don't use it much. So, far the system has been fine for me. I'm guessing that will change as soon as I need something.

I'm still in favor of reform. I just see the system as inherently flawed when the insurance companies make money by denying care. I would be fine with reform just saying that healthcare companies can make no more than 5% profit and anything else has to be evenly distributed back to their customers. It would remove a lot of their incentive to deny care to those who need it.

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Monday, December 7, 2009 4:06 PM

I'm with Kwicko, EVERY time I've gone to the Dr. about ANYTHING that required an X-ray, I got billed directly even though I am insured. And then I get threatened. I have to jump through such stupidly vicious hoops in that way, I won't go unless it's just to, like, ask a QUESTION. "Is that skin cancer? No? Just an infection/mole/whatever? Okay, thanks."
Broken bones I'll set myself.

F***ing insurance companies.


The laughing Chrisisall

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Monday, December 7, 2009 11:37 PM

So we have

denied care
lack of care
improper care
expense of diagnostic
expense of treatment
improper billing practices


Do you all feel like you have ACCESS even if you don't use it?

What about end-of-life management?

Anybody watch House MD?

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Tuesday, December 8, 2009 3:04 AM

They do deal with partial dislocations in Aus emergency. I have just become a bit blase about them as they are a frequent occurence, so I just tend to roll them back in when they happen... unfortunately this time something got nipped or twisted and thats when things get complicated care wise. I could go to emergency but would get triaged down or sent to a GP which I would have to pay for. plus If I wait till twitch related injuries are really bad I may get a free Neuro consult now instead of waiting the 7 months til my scheduled appointment. It sounds a lot worse than it is. I'm used to this process, and its only a prob when the Tourettes gets really bad as it is now. and even then I manage to go to work and school etc so its not totally incapacitating. Hope your mother recovers, Full dislocations are very nasty and very painful. worse than fractures.

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Tuesday, December 8, 2009 3:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Iremisst:

What about end-of-life management?


That's called a grenade.
Ever see "Aliens?"


The laughing Chrisisall

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Tuesday, December 8, 2009 4:17 AM

Yea, from here it does look pretty bad, but I have always said Life is all about what you have to get used to. It just sounds so horrible to have to bargain off pain levels with a health uncare system...Something I understand personally all too well, and yet still it makes me enraged. In my case, When I was 13 I started having joint problems, and walked on the sides of my feet for six months and the only person that noticed was the school janitor...
Anyway the doctors here see so many miserable people who let things go so long -mostly 'cause they have to financially- that the doctors own reality is...twisted, and so they end up marginalizing big things like children in pain- people in ridiculous amonts of pain! And they want you to beg for the pills you need just to get by! And I swear everyone I know is broke! In more ways than one!

Don't get me wrong, not trying to unload on you Boris... Just so sick of the way things are, and feeling so helpless to change anything,ever, ever! I don't think ANY great number of policy changes is going to change anything, either...

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