Would you want Firefly without Mal?
POSTED BY: GWEK
UPDATED: Thursday, December 10, 2009 11:55
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Now that you mention it, didn't Joss want a dark Mal originally, but the network said no?
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Originally posted by Katesfriend:
There's no Firefly without Mal. Joss based the series on him, so the alternative is to shoot when the actors are available. I can't imagine the actors not bending over backwards to be available to do more Firefly.
I agree with every singly word.
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Originally posted by Katesfriend:
There's no Firefly without Mal. Joss based the series on him, so the alternative is to shoot when the actors are available. I can't imagine the actors not bending over backwards to be available to do more Firefly.
I agree with every singly word.
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"Mei-mei, everything I have is right here." -- Simon Tam
I actually think the series is in the perspective of River and it is her observations both visually and mentally of the crew.
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An absolute NO, to a Firefly series without Mal (unless it is a completely new tale in the verse with new characters), until we have, at the very least, a miniseries, a feature length film, or a straight to DVD of either of these, which resolves unanswered storylines, like Inara's secret.
And… huh… okay, how does this whole Mal/Kaylee and Simon/Inara hook up thingy work? Because I must of have been absent that day. Opposites or not, they are all on the ship bound by the need of freedom. The reasons of why and how they got on the boat may be different, like Mal says, but essentially they are seeking the same thing. Freedom is their bonding commonality, not what they are trained to do. These are people, not mechanical, doctoring, companioning bots.
I’m not sure how portraying strong loving relationships within a family structure screws with the dynamics of the show, considering that one of the defining themes of the show is the strength of family and the ties that bind. So, I’m going to need some elaboration on that comment.
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I am still amazed that one little TV show can appear in so many different visages to so many different people, be deeply meaningful to all, be debated, dissected, and with (occasionally) exceptional tolerance, be seen in so many completely different ways, and still be the same show. If its deeper meanings can appear so different to so many eyes, it really is a work of art. Now, try to find common ground in discussing art - good luck!
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Originally posted by Platonist:
An absolute NO, to a Firefly series without Mal (unless it is a completely new tale in the verse with new characters), until we have, at the very least, a miniseries, a feature length film, or a straight to DVD of either of these, which resolves unanswered storylines, like Inara's secret.
And… huh… okay, how does this whole Mal/Kaylee and Simon/Inara hook up thingy work? Because I must of have been absent that day. Opposites or not, they are all on the ship bound by the need of freedom. The reasons of why and how they got on the boat may be different, like Mal says, but essentially they are seeking the same thing. Freedom is their bonding commonality, not what they are trained to do. These are people, not mechanical, doctoring, companioning bots.
I’m not sure how portraying strong loving relationships within a family structure screws with the dynamics of the show, considering that one of the defining themes of the show is the strength of family and the ties that bind. So, I’m going to need some elaboration on that comment.
When you say an absolute no to a firefly without Mal, do you mean no Mal with Nathan or no Mal with a different actor?
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I dunno about Platonist, but even though I could kind of sort of understand someone else playing Mal... I'd actually kind of feel sorry for Nathan. I mean, it doesn't seem like a week can go by without him gushing about how much he loved his character, the show, and all the friends he'd met. Seems kind of mean to deny him that.
I'm also reasonably sure that there is no human on Earth who can withstand sad-eyed Nathan, let alone pouty sad-eyed Nathan, so I'm going to file "hiring a different actor" under "defies the laws of physics."
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Well, I'm going to go with Nathan as Mal or no Mal at all, in the time line we've seen so far. I could see another actor playing a much younger Mal, like a reboot of Mal leaving Shadow, and meeting a younger Zoe, the early years, which could be done rather well as long as Joss was involved.
But another actor attempting to embody Mal, at the point we last saw the crew, no, I don’t think I’d be sold. And, like B said, it would be crushing for Nathan as he has said that he wanted Joss to have Mal die before another actor could play him.
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Maybe they could do a Firefly Reboot where everything is different much like the Startrek reboot. I wouldn't think they would all tie it in with a time traveller and dimension travelling crew member though...
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Actually there are certain elements ( and people) that I feel a successful tv program or movie can not do without. Mal Reynolds (Nathan) being one of them as pertaining to FF. He could not be replace with another actor and could not be a character that just wandered in from time to time either. Captain Reynolds was the main character and the glue that kept all of the other crew in place.
It’s a little odd, but since I’ve been watching the dvds of FF for several years now I find that the short run tv series was more about the “people” than about being in space. Although I really enjoy si/fi and space adventure, Firefly could have almost taken place on a ship in the vast ocean sailing from place to place and as long as the crew of the good ship Serenity were onboard doing their day to day happenings I’d still have thought it was interesting and worth watching. It was that well written.
Now if Firefly were to actually return to television or the big screen I do hope it would be pre BDM. I would miss Wash and Book being on the boat. Something I see many browncoats are still angered at Joss about ( yepper me too). So in reality I guess I would feel saddened if any of her crew (Serenity’s) could not return for a continuing voyage of verse adventures.
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