Would you want Firefly without Mal?
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I don't think Firefly would be the same without the whole original cast, especially Mal; wouldn't really want a continuation with only part of our original browncoat cast :\
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Originally posted by GWEK:
A lot of very interesting (and faily consistent) opinions are showing up.
Perhaps I should revise the question to something lile:
Would you rather see:
a) FIREFLY (with the entire surviving crew) continued as periodic direct-to-DVD movies (or possibly made-for-TV miniseries)?
b) A new series continuing the adventures of the surviving crew (Kaylee, Simon, River, Zoe, possibly Inara, maybe Jayne)?
c) A new series set in the 'Verse, but not featuring the crew of Serenity in any major role?
Is it cheating to say a, b and c?
wo men ren ran zai fei xing.
Not cheating I say! Best of all worlds.
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Originally posted by GWEK:
A lot of very interesting (and faily consistent) opinions are showing up.
Perhaps I should revise the question to something lile:
Would you rather see:
a) FIREFLY (with the entire surviving crew) continued as periodic direct-to-DVD movies (or possibly made-for-TV miniseries)?
b) A new series continuing the adventures of the surviving crew (Kaylee, Simon, River, Zoe, possibly Inara, maybe Jayne)?
c) A new series set in the 'Verse, but not featuring the crew of Serenity in any major role?
Is it cheating to say a, b and c?
wo men ren ran zai fei xing.
Not cheating I say! Best of all worlds.
http://www.kidsneedtoread.org/
Hell, let's go all out and create the Firefly Television Network. Badger, Saffron, Niska, Patience, Jubal Early and The Blue-Hand Guys all get their own spin-off series, plus a sitcom based on those wacky hill folk from "Safe" and a new L&O: Alliance and CSI: Ariel to boot. The possibilities are endless.
wo men ren ran zai fei xing.
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I don't think Firefly would be the same without the whole original cast, especially Mal; wouldn't really want a continuation with only part of our original browncoat cast :\
It doesn't matter if we had the entire original cast, a part of the original cast, or a completely new cast for a Firefly show, because all three would still be different from the original. I of course doubt if there will ever be another "Firefly" series, but with that said I think we Browncoats would have to get over any fear of change in the Firefly 'verse if we're ever to have any hope of getting a new series.
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I see your point but I also disagree. I know couples who come from different worlds that you would never expect but yet out of my friends they are the happiest.
As the saying goes, "opposites attact."
Opposites do indeed attract... but statistically, don't stay bonded nearly as often as not-opposites.
That aside, I understand what you and NOBC are saying, and might not necessarily disagree under other circumstances. In both couples, we ALREADLY see the underlying tensions (and, I think, ultimate failures) in their relationships based on their social more and preconceptions. These are people who are defined by where they came from, and, in my opinion, both couples are just too different at their cores to last for too long.
Wash and Zoe are an example of an "opposites attract" that works (which, of course, is why Joss sends one of them to a brutal end). Their strengths are different but complementary, so each can help the other grow and prosper. I don't necessarily see that with Simon-Kaylee or Mal-Inara.
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I don't necessarily see that with Simon-Kaylee or Mal-Inara.
No? I also disagree there. Kaylee is pure feeling, while Simon is more grounded in logic and reality. Similarly, Mal is violent, and could stand to be tempered a bit by Inara's non-violence, and Inara could learn some non-tolerance of the emotional abuse she receives from some of her clients (and possibly a good dose of reality. Sometimes I wonder about the poor dear and all her masks).
But what in particular in their opposite-ness do you think would be destructive for the characters in each couple?
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Wouldn't character team ups like the ones you talk about ruin the crew dynamics and the show?
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? This appears to have been written towards me.
Crew team-ups... Any more than Mal/Kaylee, Simon/Inara, or Wash/Zoe?
Part of the dynamics with the crew is all the tension between different people. This isn't the love boat, it's not about YAY PERFECT COUPLES, and neither, for that matter, is love.
I also think that if there wasn't any couple fighting that I wouldn't find Serenity or the crew dynamics very interesting, but that's just me.
And just because I don't really think it's canon, if anyone likes that, I don't mean to sound judgmental. If you want to write that, if you think you see JUST as much indication of attraction between WHOEVER you ship, then go for it.
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I agree that authors of fan fiction stories have the right to do whatever they want with their story because it is their story, and that there is little chance of any of these pairs actually joining up since it would screw up the important dynamics of the show. There is one thing I am wondering though, in a purely hypothetical way, is it seems like Josh had Mal going exactly as he wanted with Nathan Fillion, so if he did get a second chance at making a new Firefly series with new actors, how would he make the new Mal slightly different? Would he make the new Mal different?
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Judging by the Serenity movie, the new Mal might shoot puppies... and like it.
I guess it would also depend on the new actor's comedy ability. Nathan has a very good sense of comedy. A new actor might theoretically be more grim and dark. Which might not necessarily be worse if it made Mal edgier, it'd just be different.
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