Would you want Firefly without Mal?
POSTED BY: GWEK
UPDATED: Thursday, December 10, 2009 11:55
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I'd rather have the annual movies with the whole cast. Mal is central to Serenity's story.
But then a series would have to bring in new cast members. So maybe a different ship and a whole new crew?
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Would you want another season of FIREFLY if the only returning cast members wer Gina Torres, Jewel Staite, Sean Maher, and Summer Glau? (With the possibility of Baccarin and/or Baldwin, but pretty much no hope for Fillion.)
Mal/Fillion is certainly a central reason why the show worked so well.
How would you explain his absence, and what's the premise of the show? The same? Can't just keep being "space pirates" right? Would you replace him with another male lead?
I don't think it couldn't work without him, but it would feel weird with the others and not him. I think it would be a recipe for failure eventually.
To be honest - I think if you don't have him you shouldn't have any of the others (Flame On!), you'd have a better chance going in another direction completely and telling another story from the 'Verse, another group, another set of conflicts. The 'Verse is a BIG place full of great stories (as you know).
I think without Mal you would alienate a lot of fans. They'd watch but you may not get them back. Whereas without any of the original crew you'd have the entire fan base curious.
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Second question:
Given the choice between an ongoing series with only part of the original cast, or a direct-to-DVD movie annually with all seven of the surviving crew, which would you choose?
direct to DVD for the crew + a spin off series - the latter could be every bit as good/better than Stargate or BSG.
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IMO, Mal has to be part of any further explorations of the Firefly/Serenity 'Verse.
The best option is either another theatrical release or a made for TV movie (or mini-series). A lot of television actors do movies during their shows' production hiatus, no reason why Nathan, Adam or Morena couldn't be available if they really wanted to be a part of it. I am sure there is no one who actually thinks any of the original cast wouldn't jump at the chance to revisit the 'Verse.
NBC/Universal has the Sci-Fi Channel (sorry, but I refuse to type their new bastardized spelling), and they definitely need a good production now. We should start a massive write-in campaign for them to consider the 'Verse for a mini-series next December.
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I'd prefer in-frequent content (movies, etc.) with the full cast over regular content with a few. The ensemble cast is a big part of what made the show great in my opinion.
I know that there are a lot of good actors out there, but I think you'd be hard pressed to find an actor that looked like they could and should care about River as much as Sean did; an actress as sweet, sensual and conflicted as Morena; etc., etc.
I think I love that crew as much if not more than the show (writing) overall. I know that that is a somewhat silly statement since the writing defines the characters, but I have trouble imagining that I could love the show nearly as much with a significantly smaller or different crew. If it comes down to a choice between crew changes or no more Firefly, then I just hope that I'm proven silly, fickle, and too afraid of change and that I can love the new cast/content as much as the old.
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My favorite character is Inara, so if it involved her and the plot was good, I could stomach a couple of episodes without Mal, so long as it was understood he would "return" at some point.
However, if Mal was written out completely, I'd become MUCH less interested because so much of Inara's story is tied to her unresolved issues with Mal.
Plus, Mal on his own is a hugely unresolved issue around which Firefly is centered, so I don't really see where the show would go if Mal was permanently removed from the story.
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I'd love to see more- an annual DVD movie with the original cast would be *E*X*CE*L*L*E*N*T*.
But I'm also one of those folks who has advocated Firefly:The Next Generation, so a weekly series with a partially old cast would not be a shock.
Les'see-- Wash Jr, ( Zoe was pregnant and didn't know it yet...), Simon and Kaylee's kids, Mal & Inara's kids, Zoe commanding onboard, and the original cast members guesting or doing cameos when available, whenever the boat visits the planets where they've settled down-- ooh, SHINY!
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I think before I proposed that something Joss MIGHT do is try to take Firefly to the internet, which would pretty much require each episode only focusing on only one to four crew members. I think Dr. Horrible only billing four main stars and the production crew was the main reason it was profitable, the costs weren't too high.
But you could switch around, and each episode could focus on a different part of the crew. Maybe, theoretically, after Miranda, they had to split up and go into hiding, the Operative does warn Mal that he can't promise no one else will come after them.
I'd be fine with THAT, it would work around the actors/actresses' schedules, everyone could appear, even Ron and Alan in flashbacks.
Not having Mal? Wouldn't work, same as if you took any one of the other characters out completely. Each character fills a VERY, VERY important role. It's the balance on the show that makes it so enjoyable.
>_> Quick comment on the rights thing, since it was brought up, but I understand the desire for this thread to not devolve into an argument.
I think Fox or F*X or whoever does have SOME rights still, because when Universal was working with Multiverse to create a Firefly MMORPG, Fox or F*X or whoever was able to block it. Actually, I think it's a good sign that they ARE fighting over the franchise rights, means the industry still has interest.
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But I'm also one of those folks who has advocated Firefly:The Next Generation, so a weekly series with a partially old cast would not be a shock.
Les'see-- Wash Jr, ( Zoe was pregnant and didn't know it yet...), Simon and Kaylee's kids, Mal & Inara's kids, Zoe commanding onboard, and the original cast members guesting or doing cameos when available, whenever the boat visits the planets where they've settled down-- ooh, SHINY!
If they ever made this instead of the continuing the show as they left it? I would be so, so, so sad.
I don't care about new characters, I want to see the existing ones complete their journey.
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I can't imagine firefly/Serenity without Mal. And I would feel so, so sad for Nathan! He's repeatedly said Mal was the best job, the best character he's ever had or ever will have. Going on without him because he has another job would just be too mean.
And Serenity is Mal's ship, the song's about Mal, the reasons that Serenity and her crew does what they do are Mal's reasons. He makes a family of them, to paraphrase Inara. Mal is among the most compelling fictional characters I have ever read or seen, and I can't imagine that the story wouldn't be irreparably diminished without him.
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"NO"...next dumbass question?
ok..seriously..lots of folks have it right...the story line is about Mal..period...any man who has ever had to head up a family and struggle through loosing times without being able to turn to, say a father figure, understands a part of what the Mal character is.
this doesn't take away from the other cast...fantastic characters and actors...and like I've already said, there are some great options to bring Wash backinto the game with some very interesting options..and no..'V' is dead..the network hopes that we'll forget it ever happened come next March.
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