Michael Moores' F 9/11... will you see it?
POSTED BY: Ghoulman
UPDATED: Wednesday, November 3, 2004 20:30
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Browncoats everyone?
I think people really need to define what exactly a Browncoat is, and then WHY these people are Browncoats.
They don't seem to match *my* definition of a browncoat by a longshot.
I just love how you want to know about Bush's shady dealings, but I can't seem to remember the outrage at Clinton's shady dealings, from the left anyways. I mean, Clinton bombing Iraq during the middle of a scandal, and he doesn't get a documentary made after him? Clinton lying under oath to an investigatory panel, where's documentary dogging him for that. Clinton supports the invasion of Bosnia, (and what, pray tell, are you feelings on that?) and we don't hear about the losses there. A simple Google search reveals that chances are we lost more then our governments are telling us. And yet, still, I don't see a huge media scandal and protests over these actions. I have yet to see the Fahrenheit Clinton, but, then again, I doubt we will ever see that.
I can't help but chuckle.
"Or to put it in better perspective - I took a long walk around my town last year, just to see the sights. I passed by two houses with this sign in the window - 'Support the Troops - Shoot a Protestor'."
Yes? And? Thats the great thing about freedom of speech, it goes both ways. I've seen protestors with signs that was covered in blood, that called Bush a Nazi, and all sorts of ridiculous things. I've seen remarkably stupid things on both sides of the spectrum, and I've come to the conclusion that I just don't care anymore.
I don't care, I'm still free.
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Moore is a democrat, but with far less stake.
Considering that Moore has called the Democrats the "...sorriest excuse for a politcal party..." to several crowded auditoriums, I seriously doubt that he's a member.
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Yes? And? Thats the great thing about freedom of speech, it goes both ways. I've seen protestors with signs that was covered in blood, that called Bush a Nazi, and all sorts of ridiculous things. I've seen remarkably stupid things on both sides of the spectrum, and I've come to the conclusion that I just don't care anymore.
Then you're discussing it and taking sides why?
When you figure that out, explain to the folks with the shotguns that free speech ain't free when your response is "SHUT THE
UP OR DIE, FAGGOT!" I have trouble reaching them.
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Yes? And? Thats the great thing about freedom of speech, it goes both ways. I've seen protestors with signs that was covered in blood, that called Bush a Nazi, and all sorts of ridiculous things. I've seen remarkably stupid things on both sides of the spectrum, and I've come to the conclusion that I just don't care anymore.
Then you're discussing it and taking sides why?
When you figure that out, explain to the folks with the shotguns that free speech ain't free when your response is "SHUT THE
Yeah, because as we know, so many protestors have been shot! There have been Kent States EVERYWHERE!
Oh...
Wait...
No they haven't, and there hasn't...
I am discussing it because I can. I don't care whether or not somebody has a sign that says Bush is a baby killer or that protestors should be shot. Extremists will be extremists. It doesn't phase me.
I don't care, I'm still free.
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You also haven't seen many protests. Funny how it works both ways.
I didn't want to get into this with you - we seem to be going fairly far afield here. I'll let it be.
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I have yet to see the Fahrenheit Clinton, but, then again, I doubt we will ever see that
Didn't we have two full terms of 'Fahrenheit Clinton'? I seem to remember the media and journalists were actually let off the leash re: Clinton and gave him the full vulture treatment. For eight years, Clinton couldn't shit without a microscope coming out of his ass. All this resulting in his impeachment.
In any case, don't assume that because I am against Bush that I am pro-Clinton. Not that it's anyone's business, but I wrote-in Jerry Brown in '92 and voted for Nader in '96 and 2000. I want a REAL liberal to move in to the White House instead of these moderates who don't know how to stand up for anything or to anybody trying to pigeonhole them.
And re: the Browncoat analogy. I would say a Browncoat is a free-thinking freedom fighter opposing a centralized power structure or the pervasive "you're either with us or against us" mentality. I realize in theory (or in the past... whichever) the Republican party is/was the decentralized "state's rights" party but c'mon... the US Patriot Act?! If that ain't an evil Alliance parchment, nothing is! GW's puppet masters wrote that thing.
And, yes, I know both parties (god I hate that "both parties"... we need more diverse parties in Congress!) signed off on that evil document. But now that we know what's in it, let's have a re-vote. It would NEVER pass. It only passed thanks to the presidential Bully Pulpit and the climate of fear permeating the U.S. after 9/11. The quicker we euthanize the Patriot Act, the faster we can become the Land of the Free again.
mattro
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Erm, it was pushed by, as you mentioned, both sides.
And yeah, sure, you can throw around conspiracy theorists, I just think it was bad legislation. It does come with a sunset though, and thats better then nothing.
And, for the record, I think the real "browncoats" aren't extreme liberals, (you think Nader wants the government out of your life?) its the libertarians. They want as minimilist a government as possible with a stronog emphasis on personal responsability, and my party of choice.
(Oh, and I don't think Clinton got more 'bad' press then Bush has. By and large he got away from serious media inquisitions on the things that really mattered. Not his... exploits, in the Oval office.)
I don't care, I'm still free.
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Originally posted by Radhil:
You also haven't seen many protests. Funny how it works both ways.
I didn't want to get into this with you - we seem to be going fairly far afield here. I'll let it be.
Erm, aren't assumptions grand?
But I digress, we are getting fairly far afield.
(And, to prevent further confusion, I do not consider police forces firing beanbag bullets and tear gas into crowds to get them to disperse people getting "shot," though I suppose technically that is the case.)
I don't care, I'm still free.
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Sure I'll see the film. Why not? It's a free country, isn't it?
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