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Michael Moores' F 9/11... will you see it?

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Wednesday, June 23, 2004 6:14 PM

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Originally posted by caoilte:
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If Michael Moore was SO concerned about free speech, (instead of making a buck) why doesn't he release it free of charge on the internet, or why doesn't he spend a bit of his own wealth to get it out to the "people."


ooooooh. i hate people who say this. It's so hypocritical. Apparently you can't be interested in free speech AND making a buck folks. That's right, only people interested in state oppression AND making a buck allowed beyond this point.



I absolutely never said that. But if he couldn't get a distrubitor, as he earlier claimed, (before getting picked up, of course) and he was so apparently concerned about "getting his message out," (thats why he was pushing for a PG-13 rating on his movie) then there are multiple avenues available to him. I think Moore likes feeling like a victim. He likes thinking that he's the little guy standing up to the big guy (personally I think that title would have to go to Michael Wilson).

Hell, Moore's not a poor peasant, not capable of publishing himself. Its not that difficult for a guy who has as much money as he does.

I am also sorry you hate me for this.

I don't care, I'm still free.

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Wednesday, June 23, 2004 7:13 PM

Hell yes I'm going to see this! If for no other reason than to experience the "other" side of issues concerning GW Bush. The news in the States is far too cleansed to be considered enlightening or informational.

If Fox News were truly "Fair and Balanced" there would be no need for Michael Moore to make this film. The images in the film (particularly the war footage) and the views expressed would already haven been seen and known by all. If it takes a Michael Moore film to get the political view opposing the U.S. mainstream corporate view we are fed daily... more power to Moore! Banzai, dude!

(There are other worthwhile documentaries coming out as well: Orwell Rolls in His Grave and The Corporation spring immediately to mind... neither produced by Michael Moore).

I encourage all Michael Moore haters to go see his film anyway. Sneak in if you object to paying $. Be polite. See what Moore has to say. If you disagree, fine. That is the process with which you come to decisions and think for yourself. If the facts disagree with you, contest them by researching them yourself old school journalism style (sadly, old school research does NOT include pointing and clicking your way to www.moorehaters.com, et al).

And if you hear O'Reilly spouting off about the film at some point (as I'm certain you will) keep in mind HE HASN'T EVEN SEEN THE WHOLE THING. Michael Moore caught him walking out on the premiere presentation he attended. How's THAT for an informed "journalist"? O'Reilly can't even sit his lazy ass through a frickin' movie for crying out loud! Truly dedicated to his profession, that fella is.

Lastly, I hate to tell you this folks... Michael Moore is most certainly a Browncoat!

Mattro

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Wednesday, June 23, 2004 7:14 PM

it's just a movie.. I think it would be sad if people wanted Moore as the spearhead for their anti-bush sentiments (I would happily take his place) but I'm indeed glad this film is being released. It's about time we found a few people not afraid of this administration and willing to speak freely.. you should honestly be able to make a movie about whatever you want, even if it is nothing but lies (which Moore's film is not.. there really is some good information in the film regardless of his slant).. At least it might spark some interest in a few folks to actually begin to dig deeper beyond the major media conglomerates to find out what the hell is really going on. If not.. ah well.. at least it'll be fun to see him make an ass out of a president who is quite good at that himself.

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Wednesday, June 23, 2004 7:34 PM

Moore's an interesting little bugger, ain't he?

I probably agree with all of his politics, and I'm pretty sure the movie will be at least 2/3rds factual.

Of course, it's the last 1/3rd that bugs me. I have no interest in paying to see shock schlock and propoganda, no matter how much of it I might agree with, and no matter how much I've already researched and found to be true (and I have found quite a bit).

That said, I am enjoying seeing certain people squirm over it. Petty, true. But enjoyable.

Radhil Trebors
Persona Under Construction

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Wednesday, June 23, 2004 7:37 PM

Bah, I suppose you can lead a horse to water, but you can't force them to drink.

Well, I don't know if I ever thought that people would. Some people will cling to their ideals no matter what.

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And if Moore's a brown coat, then hell, sign me up for the Alliance. I would have to say Michael Wilson is the browncoat.

"...few people not afraid of this administration and willing to speak freely"

Erm, you don't get out much, do you? Bashing Bush, and the administration isn't some amazing new thing, bud. Turn on the news, go watch Jon Stewart, I mean, its hard NOT hear something about the administration.

I don't care, I'm still free.

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Wednesday, June 23, 2004 8:31 PM

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Originally posted by JCobb:

I think Michael Moore brilliantly illustrates just how stupid other people can be, (at least those that take everything he says at face value).




I though Fox News illustrated that a loooong time ago.



Look, in the world of political persuasion, almost all facts and events are open to interpretation. The truth is that no one, liberal or conservative, should take anyone's messages at 100% face value.

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Wednesday, June 23, 2004 8:31 PM

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Originally posted by JCobb:

I think Michael Moore brilliantly illustrates just how stupid other people can be, (at least those that take everything he says at face value).




I though Fox News illustrated that a loooong time ago.



Look, in the world of political persuasion, almost all facts and events are open to interpretation. The truth is that no one, liberal or conservative, should take anyone's messages at 100% face value.

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Wednesday, June 23, 2004 8:31 PM

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Originally posted by JCobb:

I think Michael Moore brilliantly illustrates just how stupid other people can be, (at least those that take everything he says at face value).




I though Fox News illustrated that a loooong time ago.



Look, in the world of political persuasion, almost all facts and events are open to interpretation. The truth is that no one, liberal or conservative, should take anyone's messages at 100% face value.

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Wednesday, June 23, 2004 8:31 PM

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Originally posted by JCobb:

I think Michael Moore brilliantly illustrates just how stupid other people can be, (at least those that take everything he says at face value).




I though Fox News illustrated that a loooong time ago.



Look, in the world of political persuasion, almost all facts and events are open to interpretation. The truth is that no one, liberal or conservative, should take anyone's messages at 100% face value.

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Wednesday, June 23, 2004 8:31 PM

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Originally posted by JCobb:

I think Michael Moore brilliantly illustrates just how stupid other people can be, (at least those that take everything he says at face value).




I though Fox News illustrated that a loooong time ago.



Look, in the world of political persuasion, almost all facts and events are open to interpretation. The truth is that no one, liberal or conservative, should take anyone's messages at 100% face value.

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