Don'tcha love their 'logic'?

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BYTEMITE

Friday, October 23, 2009 1:11 AM

Niki, Sig, Frem, thanks so much. I gave him your suggestions, we'll see what happens.

If all else fails, I offered to help pay, somehow, I don't know how much he owes or how much this new procedure will cost, but just sitting by while he dies, because of something stupid that's easily fixable, I can't do that. I've known him for ten years, he got me into firefly in the first place.

GEEZER

Friday, October 23, 2009 2:23 AM

It's not 'logic'. It's statistics. I'd bet that statistics show that, on the average, children of a certain age that are either a certain amount overweight or underweight have health problems that would cause their health insurance premiums to be higher than most folk in their insurance pool would be willing to pay. I'm pretty certain that the parents of these children can find someone to insure them at a somewhat higher rate.

If you want to chip in to help them, I'm sure you can. If you want to chip in and help everyone in a similar situation, write your congressperson and expect your taxes to go up. Nothing is free.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

CHRISISALL

Friday, October 23, 2009 2:42 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Geezer:
It's not 'logic'. It's statistics. I'd bet that statistics show that, on the average, children of a certain age that are either a certain amount overweight or underweight have health problems that would cause their health insurance premiums to be higher than most folk in their insurance pool would be willing to pay.

See, it's comments like this that make you seem like a *DICK*. If that's your intent, more power to ya. But if you want approval from the community at large, stop defending mindless computerized corporatism.
Just my 2 credits.

The laughing Chrisisall

SIGNYM

Friday, October 23, 2009 3:15 AM

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I'm pretty certain that the parents of these children can find someone to insure them at a somewhat higher rate.

ahhh... ahhHHH... aaAHHHHHH... AHHHHHH!!!... BULLSHOID!

'Scuse me! That was a sneeze, not a comment!

You should try it sometime Geezer.

Also, you might want to think about WHY I know so much about Social Security and Medicaid. (HINT: It has something to do with a disabled adult daughter who no longer qualifies for my insurance.)

In addition, my MIL came to live with us post-divorce. She had a "pre-existing condition" (migraines) and we simply could not find an insurance company that would insure her at ANY price.

So, your comfortable assumption really doesn't hold up.

CHRISISALL

Friday, October 23, 2009 3:30 AM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
So, your comfortable assumption really doesn't hold up.

...and it's all about comfort.
Let's see if Geeze can admit his particular argumentitive comfort zone, or if he recedes into his defensiveness once again.

The laughing Chrisisall

BYTEMITE

Friday, October 23, 2009 4:34 AM

It looks like things already shifted in the conversation, so I hope you don't mind if I post an update. Turns out I was behind the curve, my friend was already talking to Social Security today, and they told him the same thing about Federal disability and he meets the requirements, plus with the atrophied lung... He's probably going to get it this time, so yeah. :)

FREMDFIRMA

Friday, October 23, 2009 5:57 AM

Tell him not to let the pressure off until he has a formal decision or a judges ruling in his hand.

Very important, that, and make sure to have photocopies of it on hand every time he goes to deal with these berks.

-F

BYTEMITE

Friday, October 23, 2009 6:12 AM

Okay, I will. Thanks again.

GEEZER

Friday, October 23, 2009 12:47 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
So, your comfortable assumption really doesn't hold up.

Well, actually reading the stories rather than jumping to conclusions, the family with the overweight boy did have health insurance which included the child, but their premiums went up 40% when he was born so they were shopping for cheaper. The case of the underweight girl is similar, with the father having company insurance that covered her prior to going self-employed and looking for new coverage. BTW, per the Denver media both children are now insured.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

GEEZER

Friday, October 23, 2009 1:10 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
See, it's comments like this that make you seem like a *DICK*. If that's your intent, more power to ya. But if you want approval from the community at large, stop defending mindless computerized corporatism.
Just my 2 credits.

Yeah. I should just join the rant about the evil insurance monsters who undoubtedly pop the bubbly every time they deny coverage, and demand that the government require that they insure everyone and cut everyone's rates and hire more staff at good wages to provide more personal service to everyone. Then we could all sing Kumbaya. That'd be real nice, but there's not any way it can actually happen. Insurance for everyone is gonna cost everyone more money (except the folks the government gives it to for free, which ain't gonna be you or me).

I got no problem with the price going up a bit to cover the folk who fall outside the actuarial tables, I'm just kind'a bothered by folks who believe that every company with more than a hundred employees is evil or that extra and probably expensive services and coverage don't come at some price.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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