Don'tcha love their 'logic'?
POSTED BY: Niki2
UPDATED: Friday, October 30, 2009 03:04
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Wulf, I thought you were a libertarian?
By definition, wouldn't that make you ANTI-regulation?
Mike
Let the wild rumpus start!
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Ah. Thanks Wulf. I thought that might have been what you meant, but I wasn't entirely sure. Yes, I agree with you.
Kwicko, no offense or nothing, but whether or not Wulf is a Libertarian, or a conservative... He didn't say something you agree with? I thought all of us were a little bit apprehensive about what mandatory insurance could mean. At least there's talk going on about anti-trust now, so maybe insurance companies won't be able to take advantage like I thought.
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Byte, yes, unfortunately disability is often denied initially...the only good news is that once you GET it, they pay you from the first day you applied.
There are advocates for that sort of thing, and law firms, that help people obtain federal disability. They're fighters. Here in CA it seems to be much easier--I got mine in less than a month (and I'm only bipolar), but given what (probably not all true) things I've heard about Oklahoma...I dunno.
But if you can find a law firm that specializes in disability, it would be MUCH faster and his chances of success much higher...I don't think they charge unless you get it, at least the ones I've seen around here.
At least have him TRY--Federal Disability comes with Medicare, which could be a life saver for him! I cannot conceive he'd be denied, for gawd's sake...one thing for a state to be stupid, but federal guidelines are pretty specific, and a parapalegic? Inconceivable they'd deny him.
GOOD LUCK!!!
And I agree 100% about mandatory--it scares me. I'm already on Medicare so it's a moot point, but for the rest of America... Far as I'm concerned: No public option, no mandatory insurance!!! One without the other would be unconscionable!
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You have to go to your Social Security Office. AND you cannot have more than $2000 to your name (excluding the home you live in, I think). That includes cars, savings and checking, burial plots, saving bonds, and any other assets etc.
It would be helpful if he had a statement from a doctor attesting to the nature, extent, and anticipated length of disability (permanent?) BEFORE he goes to apply. List of doctors, medical records etc should also be taken in. Once he gets on the Social Security disablity roll he is automatically placed on the State's medicare-type list. He can receive disability payments from the Fed, and medical insurance from the state.
Unfortunately this takes a long time.
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Get multiple ORIGINAL copies of that statement, they will "accidently" lose at least three, and photocopies won't do, so having extra originals is a smart idea.
Consider originals like bullets, spend them well and wisely - I've fought these suckers tooth and claw a couple rounds myself over cases like the ones mentioned.
Funny you should mention Medicare, since my concept solution to the whole blasted stupidity would be to simply open it to everyone - since we already pay for it, expand and refine is as we go, and cut those insurance pricks right out of the picture.
And coulda done THAT in six weeks, instead of six months to six years, which the folk who need this the most often do not have left.
-F
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Originally posted by Bytemite:
Ah. Thanks Wulf. I thought that might have been what you meant, but I wasn't entirely sure. Yes, I agree with you.
Kwicko, no offense or nothing, but whether or not Wulf is a Libertarian, or a conservative... He didn't say something you agree with? I thought all of us were a little bit apprehensive about what mandatory insurance could mean. At least there's talk going on about anti-trust now, so maybe insurance companies won't be able to take advantage like I thought.
Oh, no offense taken. It's just kinda hard trying to nail Wulf down to any position, because he seems to constantly be shifting the things he finds unacceptable.
Mandatory insurance is a scam, plain and simple. It's a scam when it's auto insurance, and it's an even bigger scam when it's health insurance. Let's face it, you CAN choose not to own or drive a car; you can't really CHOOSE not to be alive. Trust me - Dr. Kavorkian went to prison for helping people make that choice. :)
Mike
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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Funny you should mention Medicare, since my concept solution to the whole blasted stupidity would be to simply open it to everyone - since we already pay for it, expand and refine is as we go, and cut those insurance pricks right out of the picture.
And coulda done THAT in six weeks, instead of six months to six years, which the folk who need this the most often do not have left.
-F
Yup. And make it non-profit - it's geared toward HEALTH CARE, not profits and bonuses for stockholders.
You don't even have to outlaw insurance companies - you can have supplemental insurance, you can option up at your cost, and it will FORCE the insurance industry to actually be COMPETITIVE.
What's funny is that, by law, Vegas casinos only get to keep 15% of their total take as profits. Insurance companies are keeping over 30%. In other words, you'd be better off going to the casino with your insurance money. You know, the casino, where it's said, "The house ALWAYS wins."
Pretty pathetic, really.
Mike
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Originally posted by Niki2:
And I agree 100% about mandatory--it scares me. I'm already on Medicare so it's a moot point, but for the rest of America... Far as I'm concerned: No public option, no mandatory insurance!!! One without the other would be unconscionable!
Absolutely agreed.
"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."
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Quote:I have some spare "Medicare for Everyone" bumperstickers (with one of those "ribbon" symbols in RW&B) after handing them out liberally (heh!) to like-minded peeps. Want one????
Funny you should mention Medicare, since my concept solution to the whole blasted stupidity would be to simply open it to everyone
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"Oh, no offense taken. It's just kinda hard trying to nail Wulf down to any position, because he seems to constantly be shifting the things he finds unacceptable."
Hello,
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Don't stomp on it before it blooms.
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