Obama and crew shun Fox news

POSTED BY: OPPYH
UPDATED: Monday, October 26, 2009 12:06
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OPPYH

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 4:48 AM

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/10/18/obama-team-continues-effort
-isolate-fox-news/

In other news Obama stated that the other big kids wouldn't play fair.

All those with different views should be silenced.

PIRATENEWS

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:03 AM

Dog and pony circus for the sheeple. 50% of Fox viewers are Democrat or Independent.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wendi_Deng
http://piratenews.org/fox-news-owned-by-communist-china.html

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"Two of my favorite philisophers, Mao Se Tung and Mother Theresa, two people that I turn to most."
-Anita Dunn, Obama White House Communications Dictator

"We controlled it, as opposed to the press controlled it. By the general election, very rarely did we communicate through the press anything that we didn't absolutely control."
-Anita Dunn, Obama White House Communications Dictator

"Government control of communications and transportation."
-Communist Manifesto, 6th Plank

"Obama is a radical Communist. He's going to destroy this country, and we're either going to stop him, or the United States of America is going to cease to exist."
-Ambassador Alan Keyes PhD, candidate for president in 2008
http://loyaltoliberty.blogspot.com

RIVERDANCER

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:11 AM

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He added that it is the administration's practice to attack its critics full-throttle.

Which is totally different than an administration that says its critics are "with the terrorists."
Hello pot, this is the kettle.
Not that I approve of such tactics from anyone, but after enduring so much mudslinging, I can hardly blame the Democratic party for getting a little more confrontational.

GINOBIFFARONI

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:14 AM

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Originally posted by OPPYH:

All those with different views should be silenced.

I think that line should read

either you at least try to appear to tell both sides of the issues without editorializing anyone who disagrees with you as evil...

or you can spout your rubbish without the benefit of access to government press pools.

You have the right to an opinion

You have the right to run off at the mouth

The right to go to the press partys is not guaranteed

Either your with the terrorists, or ... your with the terrorists

Lets party like its 1939

KWICKO

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 11:56 AM

This is all part of how the game is played. It's called "access". Given that FauxNews is nothing but a mouthpiece for the GOP, and a place for them to editorialize and demonize everything Obama does, why would anyone from his administration even waste their time trying to talk to anyone at Faux? As Representative Alan Grayson said, if Obama were to end hunger in the world, the Republicans would blame him for overpopulation.

Somebody remind me - how many times did Dubya go on MSNBC? And where were your complaints then, when his administration made a conscious effort to deny access to what it considered "the lib'ral media"? (And no, I wasn't complaining about his lack of appearances on MSNBC; I was GRATEFUL that he wasn't going over there and giving out interviews. Every time that idiot speaks, his mangling of the English language has me wanting to jam knitting needles through my eardrums.)

This is just so much right-wing idiocy as usual. Bitch and insult, then complain that the other side isn't being nice. Anyone catch HW Bush's little snipe-fest last week, where he asked for restraint and an end to the namecalling, then proceeded to refer to "the cables" and in particular, Olbermann and Maddow, as "sick puppies"? Wow. Good thing he's not doing any namecalling, eh?

Mike

Let the wild rumpus start!

KWICKO

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 12:00 PM

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Originally posted by OPPYH:

All those with different views should be silenced.

Exactly. I have no doubt that you were at the town hall meetings, asking the tea-bagging mobs to please be respectful and let the representatives and their supporters exercise their free speech rights without being shouted down.

If you want to be treated civilly, act civilly.

JONGSSTRAW

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 12:36 PM

This is just a sad, pathetic, and blatently obvious attempt by Obama's goons to deflect the issues that they are losing popularity on. Fox News is lovin' it! Lovin' it all the way to the bank!

KWICKO

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 2:33 PM

Speaking of gay rights, how much airtime did FauxNews devote to the big march weekend before last? About as many people turned out to support gay rights as turned out for the "9/12" protests, yet Faux didn't seem to even notice.

Fair & Balanced, indeed.

ETA: This was posted before Jongsie edited his post. He originally posted that this was an attempt by the Obama admin to sidestep issues like gay rights and Afghanistan.

I'd say it's a blatant and pathetic attempt by CONSERVATIVES to avoid real issues - things like health care reform, gay rights, the FACT that Obama has now kept us safer from terrorist attack for longer than Bush did (that landmark was reached on September 12, 2009, by the way), etc.

Mike

Let the wild rumpus start!

STORYMARK

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 3:54 PM

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Originally posted by OPPYH:

In other news Obama stated that the other big kids wouldn't play fair.

All those with different views should be silenced.

Are you really that.... simple????

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

HKCAVALIER

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 3:57 PM

I am really so sick of people treating national politics like some gorram rugby match. Oooh, and Obama is down! Pathetic! Haha, Fox rules!

Pathetic? Really? Fox has been very successful at shaping the opinion of the conservative people in this country to the point that huge percentages of 'em believe utter b.s. like Obama's foreign birth, Obama's secret religion, Obama's communist conspiracy, Acorn's apocalyptic influence, death panels, concentration camps for the right, Obama's healthcare "final solution"--the list goes on and on and on and on!

Fox has been extremely successful peddling, promoting, nurturing this "sad, pathetic, blatantly obvious" propaganda for over a year now to the point where they've not only framed the debate, they've all but abolished it.

The White House is just showing the teansiest bit of back bone here (uh-oh, that angry black man again, hide the children!) and saying, "Hey, that ain't right," and the "conservatives" all get up their best high dudgeon and pontificate on the "harm" THIS does to free speech!

HKCavalier

Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.

OPPYH

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 4:18 PM

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Originally posted by Storymark:
Are you really that.... simple????

Are you?

I could care less about Fox news, but Obama should expect harsh words from the Right wing chicken wings. When he shows they are getting to him, it makes him look awfully weak. But if that's his angle then I guess it's up to him how he's perceived .

RIVERLOVE

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 4:24 PM

Fox News is Fox. I don't watch anything on Fox, except sports. They cancelled Firefly, Drive, and Sarah Connor, 3 shows I liked a lot. But they have had The Simpsons on for 20 years. 20 years??"!! I find it amazing that people still watch that.

OPPYH

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 4:24 PM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
I have no doubt that you were at the town hall meetings, asking the tea-bagging mobs to please be respectful and let the representatives and their supporters exercise their free speech rights without being shouted down.

If you want to be treated civilly, act civilly.

It wouldn't have helped. If people want to be assholes, there's no stopping them.

Obama has been demonized from the start from the republicans(it's their job) but this is the first time I've ever heard of a president crying "foul" over it.

KWICKO

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 4:27 PM

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Originally posted by OPPYH:
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Originally posted by Storymark:
Are you really that.... simple????
Are you?

I could care less about Fox news, but Obama should expect harsh words from the Right wing chicken wings. When he shows they are getting to him, it makes him look awfully weak. But if that's his angle then I guess it's up to him how he's perceived .

How is it "weak" to not engage or give free publicity and ratings to those who have no interest in actually conversing with you, but only want to attack, attack, attack?

And how is ignoring FauxNews, or pointing out that they're basically a broken-clock news organization (they may report actual NEWS maybe twice a day; all the rest is pure bullshit and editorializing), "showing that they are getting to him"?

By the way, would you say that Olbermann and Maddow are "getting to" Bush Sr?

Mike

Let the wild rumpus start!

KWICKO

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 4:32 PM

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Originally posted by OPPYH:

It wouldn't have helped. If people want to be assholes, there's no stopping them.

Obama has been demonized from the start from the republicans(it's their job) but this is the first time I've ever heard of a president crying "foul" over it.

So, by your own reckoning, it wouldn't help Obama at all to go on FauxNews. If they want to be assholes, they're going to be assholes.

And if you've never heard of a president whining about how he was treated by the press, you really haven't been paying ANY attention at all.

Mike

Let the wild rumpus start!

JONGSSTRAW

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 4:37 PM

Here's WH Communications Director Anita Dunn bragging about how she and Obama "CONTROLLED" the media. This explains much as to why they hate (or are afraid of) Fox. They cannot "control" Fox. Fox does what the networks & NY Times are supposed to do : question, challenge, investigate the Administration, not cheerlead the issues.

CHRISISALL

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 4:47 PM

Fox "News" is just a mouthpiece for the Conservative in Librul clothing media. Only they usually take the garb off so you can see 'em.
How many times must we repeat this, Jong? There IS no Librul movement in America. It's Right & Middle, all the way.

The laughing Chrisisall

JONGSSTRAW

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 4:59 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Fox "News" is just a mouthpiece for the Conservative in Librul clothing media. Only they usually take the garb off so you can see 'em.
How many times must we repeat this, Jong? There IS no Librul movement in America. It's Right & Middle, all the way.

The laughing Chrisisall

Truth is Chris, I really don't care either way. You know I'm an older guy. I have everything I ever wanted in this world; a great family, a good quality of life, good friends, and a career in its' waning days. I'm really not too caring about current policies of this or that, but I do find these media wars very interesting though. If Fox was as supposedly influential on the idiot masses, then how did Obama win the election? On the other hand if Fox is nothing but Right-wing propaganda, how come their ratings are going through the roof, just obliterating everyone else? How come Obama's numbers on just about everything are going south? I do believe there is an Obama backlash going on in the countyr. I think people are sick to death of his endless pontificating and lecturing to us. Seems absurd to me to blame all this on poor lonely Fox News; actually seems sad and pathetic as I said earlier.

SIGNYM

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:06 PM

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I really don't care either way

Then why the frak are you even posting about this?

Oh, it's because you DO care.

OPPYH

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:06 PM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:

And if you've never heard of a president whining about how he was treated by the press, you really haven't been paying ANY attention at all.

Ok, going back to the Bill Clinton years. The Right was constantly attacking Clinton. Rush Limabaugh had his own show that was over the top with Clinton insults. Clinton never had issues. He simply went about his presidential duties.
I have been paying attention, and you're right Obama has been a huge crybaby when things aren't going his way.

OPPYH

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:09 PM

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
I have everything I ever wanted in this world; a great family, a good quality of life, good friends, and a career in its' waning days. I'm really not too caring about current policies of this or that, but I do find these media wars very interesting though. If Fox was as supposedly influential on the idiot masses, then how did Obama win the election? On the other hand if Fox is nothing but Right-wing propaganda, how come their ratings are going through the roof, just obliterating everyone else? How come Obama's numbers on just about everything are going south? I do believe there is an Obama backlash going on in the countyr. I think people are sick to death of his endless pontificating and lecturing to us. Seems absurd to me to blame all this on poor lonely Fox News; actually seems sad and pathetic as I said earlier.

Well said. Obama is turning out to be a bigger ass then I thought possible. He really thinks he can do no wrong.

SIGNYM

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:14 PM

JSS- BTW, just OOC I googled "obama + blames + fox + 2009" just to see whether Obama "blamed" Fox for lower approval ratings, and I came up with ... nothing. Sounds to me like you're getting your knickers in a twist over nothing.

JONGSSTRAW

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:16 PM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
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I really don't care either way
Then why the frak are you even posting about this?

Oh, it's because you DO care.

I really only care about you Signy, even though you always attack me without ever actually reading my posts. But that's ok, I understand. See, I said I find it interesting (see above). Is "interesting" not worthy of a few posts here? Sorry to damage your calm.

STORYMARK

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:16 PM

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Originally posted by OPPYH:
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Originally posted by Storymark:
Are you really that.... simple????
Are you?

I could care less about Fox news, but Obama should expect harsh words from the Right wing chicken wings. When he shows they are getting to him, it makes him look awfully weak. But if that's his angle then I guess it's up to him how he's perceived .

Uh... your the one buying into the narrative, dude. Do some introspection.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

JONGSSTRAW

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:18 PM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
JSS- BTW, just OOC I googled "obama + blames + fox + 2009" just to see whether Obama "blamed" Fox for lower approval ratings, and I came up with ... nothing. Sounds to me like you're getting your knickers in a twist over nothing.

Obama's too smart to get his hands dirty. Try Googling Anita Dunn, Emmanuel, and Axelrod. You might see what's going on. Fox has nothing to do with Obamas numbers tanking, that's just the American people slowly waking up to his ineffectiveness. Sorry.

STORYMARK

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:19 PM

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Fox does what the networks & NY Times are supposed to do : question, challenge, investigate the Administration...,

...But only a Democratic Administration...

....not cheerlead the issues.

Are you on fucking crack??? They were caught on camera LITERALLY cheerleading for the teabaggers.

Christ, are you blind or delusional?

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

STORYMARK

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:20 PM

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Fox does what the networks & NY Times are supposed to do : question, challenge, investigate the Administration...,

...But only a Democratic Administration...

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....not cheerlead the issues.

Are you on fucking crack??? They were caught on camera LITERALLY cheerleading for the teabaggers.

Christ, are you blind or delusional?

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

OPPYH

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:21 PM

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Originally posted by Storymark:

Uh... your the one buying into the narrative, dude. Do some introspection.

"Can't stop the signal"!

STORYMARK

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:22 PM

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Originally posted by OPPYH:
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Originally posted by Storymark:

Uh... your the one buying into the narrative, dude. Do some introspection.

"Can't stop the signal"!

Well, I guess that makes you a purplebelly. Keep pushing the company line.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

JONGSSTRAW

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:29 PM

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Originally posted by OPPYH:
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Originally posted by Storymark:

Uh... your the one buying into the narrative, dude. Do some introspection.

"Can't stop the signal"!

Good thread Oppyh-dude. You got folks a bit riled, which aint easy to do these days. Thanks.

Oh, just one more time....for those that refuse to acknowledge the reality of the White House's paranoia:

SIGNYM

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:50 PM

FWIW, most right-wingers are not only unfair, they're also unbalanced. This should make anybody's head spin: Cantor blames press for lack of GOP economic plan Check it out on Youtube. or how about THIS: Cheney: Don't Blame Bush Team for Economic Woes http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=7086353

JONGSSTRAW

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:55 PM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
FWIW, most right-wingers are not only unfair, they're also unbalanced.

Thanks for coming out of semi-retirement from RWED to post that sparkling gem. Must have taken most of your brain cells to formulate that carefully thought-out hypothesis.

SIGNYM

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:57 PM

Nah, just engaging in Jongsstyle rhetoric. Ya like it, huh?

JONGSSTRAW

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:04 PM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
Nah, just engaging in Jongsstyle rhetoric. Ya like it, huh?

Actually, love it! Your honesty is always refreshing. I'm honored to be so blessed by your keen attention today. I think I'll leave now, before your pals swoop in here and throw more nasties at me. Sorry if the facts about Obama are painful to ya. I know how it feels to be let down by your President.

KWICKO

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:13 PM

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Originally posted by OPPYH:
Well said. Obama is turning out to be a bigger ass then I thought possible. He really thinks he can do no wrong.

I think you've got the wrong guy:

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WASHINGTON - American President George Bush grimaced, sighed, rambled and chuckled under his breath on Tuesday, before saying he could not think of a single mistake he had made since the September 11 attacks.

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0414-01.htm

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Ok, going back to the Bill Clinton years. The Right was constantly attacking Clinton. Rush Limabaugh had his own show that was over the top with Clinton insults. Clinton never had issues. He simply went about his presidential duties.
I have been paying attention...

You just decided to stop paying attention when Bush was in office, eh? Remember him and Cheney talking about the New York Times reporter? "He's a major-league asshole." "Oh yeah - big time!"

Guess that one slipped under your radar. Must not have been covered by FauxNews, huh?

Mike

Let the wild rumpus start!

KWICKO

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:14 PM

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
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Originally posted by SignyM:
FWIW, most right-wingers are not only unfair, they're also unbalanced.

Thanks for coming out of semi-retirement from RWED to post that sparkling gem. Must have taken most of your brain cells to formulate that carefully thought-out hypothesis.

Ditto.

Mike

Let the wild rumpus start!

UNABASHEDVIXEN

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:17 PM

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Obama and crew shun Fox news

If only the rest of the world would follow the Obama administration's fine example....

*
People before profits

OPPYH

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:18 PM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:

You just decided to stop paying attention when Bush was in office, eh? Remember him and Cheney talking about the New York Times reporter? "He's a major-league asshole." "Oh yeah - big time!"

I ignored everything when Bush was in office. It was the only way to stay sane. I don't think calling Bush an asshole covers it. He was well beyond that leaning more toward tyrant.

CHRISISALL

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:33 PM

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Truth is Chris, I really don't care either way. You know I'm an older guy.

Old like as in three-week old head of lettuce in the fridge old, or old as in molten core of the Moon old? I dismiss age as important unless it brings death.

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I have everything I ever wanted in this world; a great family, a good quality of life, good friends, and a career in its' waning days.

The rest is great, but career in its waning days??? What's life without work?

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I do believe there is an Obama backlash going on in the country. I think people are sick to death of his endless pontificating and lecturing to us.

He got the Nobel Peace Prize for it. I could stand to hear a little more, myself.

The laughing Chrisisall

CHRISISALL

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:41 PM

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Originally posted by OPPYH:
He was well beyond that leaning more toward tyrant.

Tyrants generally know what they are doing & call the shots. Shrub was just "Reagan dark"- a sort of amber brew that Cheney stirred & fermented.

The laughing Chrisisall

JONGSSTRAW

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:45 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
What's life without work?

Fun!

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Pontificating & lecturing...He got the Nobel Peace Prize for it. I could stand to hear a little more, myself

I think you can still get his DVD's in stores or on Amazon. If you happen to be in NYC you can buy all his speeches at the NBC lobby shop, along with the other Obama stuff they push like plates, hats, t-shirts, and of course the Obama savings bank.

CHRISISALL

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:45 PM

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Originally posted by HKCavalier:
I am really so sick of people treating national politics like some gorram rugby match. Oooh, and Obama is down!

Fox lurches forward, but Obama pulls a Trinity & kicks it in the chest!!! The NeoCon wannabees PROTEST!!!!

The laughing Chrisisall

CHRISISALL

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:53 PM

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
What's life without work?

Fun!

Jubal Early begs to disagree. Retirement is dull, lifeless nebulousness, with the promise of enrichment unfulfilled. It is the sad end to a useful life and purpose.

UNLESS you have a bitchin' home theatre set-up, & a cool DVD collection!!! Pizza & popcorn & peeps to geek with helps!!!

Bottom line: we survived Cheney & Bush, America & the world are tough.

The laughing Chrisisall

SIGNYM

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:54 PM

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Sorry if the facts about Obama are painful to ya. I know how it feels to be let down by your President.

What... you live in France or something? Isn't he your President too?

CHRISISALL

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:58 PM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
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Sorry if the facts about Obama are painful to ya. I know how it feels to be let down by your President.
What... you live in France or something? Isn't he your President too?

Yeah, Bush was my President, sad to say. But Obama is only YOUR President if you like him, obviously.

The laughing Chrisisall

JONGSSTRAW

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:07 PM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
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Sorry if the facts about Obama are painful to ya. I know how it feels to be let down by your President.
What... you live in France or something? Isn't he your President too?

"Your" intended as meaning the one you advocated and voted for. Like my ilk with Bush, only much, much quicker. Hey, all is going to be OK. Hillary Clinton will announce she's running against him in about 6 months. Repubs cannot hope to win it for at least another 7 years, so maybe Hillary's challenge will actually do something positive.

p.s. I like how YOU underlined "your"...made for a nice attention-getter, if not a deceptive device.

CHRISISALL

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:11 PM

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Like my ilk

Do you guys have an Ilk Lodge?

The curious Chrisisall

STORYMARK

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:19 PM

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Sorry if the facts about Obama are painful to ya.

Yet you'll lie outright and rationalize anything so you can think Fox is being picked on.

I think you need to reacquaint yourself with the definition of "fact".

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

JONGSSTRAW

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:20 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Like my ilk
Do you guys have an Ilk Lodge?

The curious Chrisisall

Had to sell the Lodge last year due to the economic downturn, but we do have some real nice Ilk pens if you're interested. Also have some Ilk suits if that's more towards what yer looking for. ILK....it's good for ya!

SIGNYM

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:23 PM

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p.s. I like how YOU underlined "your"...made for a nice attention-getter, if not a deceptive device.

Oh, you don't like unfair and unbalanced reporting?

Pobrecito!

Ya little whiner!

Anyway, not intended to imply that was your underline, just to point out your choice of words, which reflects your bias.

CHRISISALL

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:24 PM

*Got Ilk?*

JONGSSTRAW

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:30 PM

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Originally posted by Storymark:
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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Sorry if the facts about Obama are painful to ya.

Yet you'll lie outright and rationalize anything so you can think Fox is being picked on.

Sad.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

Is the video of Anita Dunn a lie? Did you even watch the damn thing? Was the midnight resignation of avowed marxist & 911 Truther WH czar Van Jones a lie too? Was the Acorn scandal a lie too? Is the latest Rassmussen Poll showing HC support at 42% a lie as well? Are Obama's plummeting poll numbers all a lie too? You really must have blinders on ( Obama brand?) if you cannot see what's right in front of you. I don't give 2 chits about Fox News. I have no stake in the company. I just find it HILARIOUS that the pathetic thugs and wannabe pretenders in the WH are so desperate they have no answers other than to attack this one little network, just like you have no answers other than to launch personal attacks against just about everyone on FFF, including innocents in the General Areas! You have no shame, and you have no legitimacy in my book.

CHRISISALL

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:36 PM

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
this one little network

*Falls off chair*

One LIT- ??

*waves hand in utter dismissal*

The laughing Chrisisall

STORYMARK

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:58 PM

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
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Originally posted by Storymark:
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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Sorry if the facts about Obama are painful to ya.

Yet you'll lie outright and rationalize anything so you can think Fox is being picked on.

Sad.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

Is the video of Anita Dunn a lie? Did you even watch the damn thing? Was the midnight resignation of avowed marxist & 911 Truther WH czar Van Jones a lie too? Was the Acorn scandal a lie too? Is the latest Rassmussen Poll showing HC support at 42% a lie as well? Are Obama's plummeting poll numbers all a lie too? You really must have blinders on ( Obama brand?) if you cannot see what's right in front of you. I don't give 2 chits about Fox News. I have no stake in the company. I just find it HILARIOUS that the pathetic thugs and wannabe pretenders in the WH are so desperate they have no answers other than to attack this one little network, just like you have no answers other than to launch personal attacks against just about everyone on FFF, including innocents in the General Areas! You have no shame, and you have no legitimacy in my book.

You lie and pretend that Fox is all upstanding iand non-biased, and hide behind a video.

I said nothing about the video dipshit - I was referring to your earlier comments, which were bullshit. I pointed out how, and you ignored it.

And then you have the temerity to attack the credibility of others.

You are a sad little tool.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

JONGSSTRAW

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 8:02 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
this one little network

*Falls off chair*

One LIT- ??

*waves hand in utter dismissal*

The laughing Chrisisall

Chris had a good time here today. I'm glad I could indulge your fleeting interests for once in my life.

On another note........ The White House AND posters here accuse FOX News of being the arm or mouthpiece for the Republican Party. Balderdash!! The Republican Party is a CLUELESS, stagnant organization without one original thought in their head. Michael Steel, Chairman, is a huge disappoinment, and a blundering dunderhead to boot. TO THINK that THOSE pathetic worms could ever advise Fox News about anything is even more laughable than the WH attacking Fox in the first place. TOO bad the RNC doesn't listen and take directions FROM Fox. They might actually learn and know something, but then they'd have to take time away from their mistresses and other dastardly dealings.

FREMDFIRMA

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 8:41 PM

What, none of you deigned to bash him over the head with Shrubs little "Catapult the Propaganda" comment ?

Tsk tsk, must I do everything myself ?

Dude, politicians lie, and media networks lie even more - if any of this is news to you, then ya ought to get a crowbar and pry your head out of where it was stuck the last eight years, but if ya do that I guess you'll have to turn in your GOP membership card for non-compliance.

-Frem

CHRISISALL

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 9:00 PM

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Dude, politicians lie, and media networks lie even more - if any of this is news to you, then ya ought to get a crowbar and pry your head out of where it was stuck the last eight years

Frem: breakin' it down for y'all. Correctly.

The laughing Chrisisall

STORYMARK

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 10:19 PM

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this one little network

*Falls off chair*

One LIT- ??

*waves hand in utter dismissal*

The laughing Chrisisall

Chris had a good time here today. I'm glad I could indulge your fleeting interests for once in my life.

On another note........ The White House AND posters here accuse FOX News of being the arm or mouthpiece for the Republican Party. Balderdash!! The Republican Party is a CLUELESS, stagnant organization without one original thought in their head. Michael Steel, Chairman, is a huge disappoinment, and a blundering dunderhead to boot. TO THINK that THOSE pathetic worms could ever advise Fox News about anything is even more laughable than the WH attacking Fox in the first place. TOO bad the RNC doesn't listen and take directions FROM Fox. They might actually learn and know something, but then they'd have to take time away from their mistresses and other dastardly dealings.

I'm sorry, but could you clarify.... was that supposed to represent some form of logical thought? A cause and effect relation? Because I see no actual logic there, and just a bunch of bullshit.

The RNC doesn't have to be organized to have water-carriers.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

NIKI2

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 10:56 PM

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50% of Fox viewers are Democrat or Independent

Prove it. Show statistics. Because I think that's pure bullshit.

Dancer, I agree

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Which is totally different than an administration that says its critics are "with the terrorists."
Hello pot, this is the kettle.
Not that I approve of such tactics from anyone, but after enduring so much mudslinging, I can hardly blame the Democratic party for getting a little more confrontational.

There's been so much "pot calling kettle black" I just have to laugh when I hear it, it's so absurd.

This is what I heard one pundit say when asked why the White House was speaking up, had they just had enough or something? Yes, but more than that; "If you cannot reason, if you cannot make the argument because of some ulterior motive, if there's not rational thinking," you might as well speak the truth and call them out.

Not sure if it's a good thing to be engaging Fox Noise in any way, but it's refreshing for ME to hear someone in power speak up and tell it like it is. "It's not news, it's pushing a point of view" someone said, which has been so obvious for so long that it shouldn't need saying.

Faux News is TRULY the best name anyone could have given it--tho' Fox Noise is cute, calling it pseudo-news is right on. Had a bumpersticker during the Bush years: "If you're not outraged, you're watching Fox News". Says it all, for me.

Mike, hear, hear:

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I was GRATEFUL that he wasn't going over there and giving out interviews. Every time that idiot speaks, his mangling of the English language has me wanting to jam knitting needles through my eardrums.)

...and that sneering GRIN...

And yeah:

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This is just so much right-wing idiocy as usual. Bitch and insult, then complain that the other side isn't being nice. Anyone catch HW Bush's little snipe-fest last week, where he asked for restraint and an end to the namecalling, then proceeded to refer to "the cables" and in particular, Olbermann and Maddow, as "sick puppies"? Wow. Good thing he's not doing any namecalling, eh?

made me smile, too...how pathetic! Not to mention that, leftie that she may be, I've never found Maddow to be anything but civil and to have a great knack at "following the money". 'Course, to Daddy GW, I suppose that IS being a "sick puppy"!

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This is just a sad, pathetic, and blatently obvious attempt by Obama's goons to deflect the issues that they are losing popularity on.

Oh, gawd, I've got tears in my eyes from laughing so hard...

Cavalier, I agree wholeheartedly. To dismiss Faux Noise is to ignore that what they do, they do VERY well...unfortunately!

Funny, I didn't see this as Obama "crying foul", "blaming" or as an indication that Fox is "getting to him", nor as it being that he hates or is afraid of them...I saw it as calling a spade a spade, purely and simply, and nothing more. Nice someone with a voice finally DID...end of story. Of course it's NOT end of story, Fox Noise won't let it be, but it was satisfying for me.

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question, challenge, investigate the Administration, not cheerlead the issues.

Oh, goodness, there you go again, making me laugh my socks off.

Anyone with an ounce of brain cells can easily see that's not even slightly what they do: twist, instigate, lie and prevaracate is more like it...one rarely hears anything HONEST from them. Tho' I shouldn't say that, I don't watch...I only see clips on other stations, but what I see speaks pretty clearly to what they are about.

Jong,

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If Fox was as supposedly influential on the idiot masses, then how did Obama win the election? On the other hand if Fox is nothing but Right-wing propaganda, how come their ratings are going through the roof, just obliterating everyone else? How come Obama's numbers on just about ever

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KWICKO

Wednesday, October 21, 2009 1:12 AM

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Not sure if it's a good thing to be engaging Fox Noise in any way, but it's refreshing for ME to hear someone in power speak up and tell it like it is. "It's not news, it's pushing a point of view" someone said, which has been so obvious for so long that it shouldn't need saying.

And a big part of the Obama administration saying it may be simply to call them out on what is blatantly obvious to anyone on the outside. Believe it or not, there are still people (some of them posting in this very thread) who actually BELIEVE that FauxNews is an objective news source. That's the sad thing, really.

Yes, I watch MSNBC. And I think I've said it more often and more loudly than anyone else around here: MSNBC *IS* a very liberal network. So much so that you can actually pick out WHICH liberals the various people on the network support. Maddow likes Obama, but she liked Hillary too. Chris Matthews just LOVES Hillary, no matter how many tingles up his leg Obama might give him. Olbermann, who got his start in political commentary during the Clinton impeachment proceedings, LOVES Obama and barely tolerates Hillary. Perhaps he saw more of the behind-the-scenes story when he was covering Monicagate than the others did; I don't know.

Thing is, they're liberal, and they don't pull any punches in saying so. And then you have FauxNews, whose people have suddenly decided to declare themselves as "independents" in the last nine months or so, and who actually expect people to believe they never really wanted McCain and Palin to win, because they weren't "real" conservatives.

Someone claimed that half the FauxNews viewers are independents or Democrats. I'd laugh, but that's probably true. After all, if it were only Republicans watching, then Fox would have fewer viewers than their business network does (is it still on the air? Last time I checked, Davey and Goliath reruns were pulling better numbers than FauxBidness). Latest poll results show that fewer than 20% of Americans identify themselves as Republicans today. That's the lowest numbers in a generation. Of course, the vast majority of those so-called "independents" are the people who up to a year ago were proud Bush-league Republicans. As Frem has pointed out (hilariously, I thought), you could goddam near HEAR them outside late at night, busily scratching those "W" stickers off their car windows, and drooping their heads and hoping nobody would remember.

The only thing that makes them "independent" in any way, shape or form is that four years ago they were screaming "Support the President! He's YOUR President too!" - and now they're living in mortal dread of those words coming back to bite them in the ass, so they declare their "independence" from supporting their President, their troops, their country, or their flag. You know, any of those things that not supporting in full throat and loud voice a mere couple of years ago, they would have deemed un-American.

Independent, my ass. You can't be independent if you're still being force-fed your opinions and talking points by FauxNews.

Mike

Let the wild rumpus start!

CHRISISALL

Wednesday, October 21, 2009 1:52 AM

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MSNBC *IS* a very liberal network.

Mike, it's a Liberal network? I just don't see it. It's a MIDDLE network, as far as I can see, which is NOT AT ALL a bad thing- I just think the phrase "Liberal" is applied, in America anyway, to any belief system that does not include military domination of the third world that has resources that we want/need.

The laughing Chrisisall

KWICKO

Wednesday, October 21, 2009 3:13 AM

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MSNBC *IS* a very liberal network.
Mike, it's a Liberal network? I just don't see it. It's a MIDDLE network, as far as I can see, which is NOT AT ALL a bad thing- I just think the phrase "Liberal" is applied, in America anyway, to any belief system that does not include military domination of the third world that has resources that we want/need.

The laughing Chrisisall

Well, yeah - it's "liberal" by American standards.

It's funny, because all the righties keep going on about how "right-wing conservatives" are winning positions in European governments, but they'd be shocked if they ever actually met any of those Euro "right-wingers" - they're further left than even the lefty-looney fringe here at home! Angella Merkel of Germany comes to mind; she's what passes for a "conservative" in Europe, and even she doesn't want Bush touching her!

Mike

Let the wild rumpus start!

CHRISISALL

Wednesday, October 21, 2009 3:18 AM

Shrub on MY neck would be... a Kung Fu excuse.

The laughing Chrisisall

GINOBIFFARONI

Wednesday, October 21, 2009 5:21 AM

Fox.....

Either your with the terrorists, or ... your with the terrorists

Lets party like its 1939

KWICKO

Thursday, October 22, 2009 12:12 AM

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Are you really that.... simple????
Are you?

I could care less about Fox news, but Obama should expect harsh words from the Right wing chicken wings. When he shows they are getting to him, it makes him look awfully weak. But if that's his angle then I guess it's up to him how he's perceived .

But then, by that logic, don't THEY look awfully weak by showing that Obama is getting to THEM?

Mike

Let the wild rumpus start!

KWICKO

Thursday, October 22, 2009 12:21 AM

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Was the Acorn scandal a lie too? Is the latest Rassmussen Poll showing HC support at 42% a lie as well? Are Obama's plummeting poll numbers all a lie too?

Yes, yes, and yes.

Next!

NIKI2

Thursday, October 22, 2009 7:41 AM

Good one, Mike. Sigh...I spent a couple of hours put together references and facts on all three, then lost the whole damned post (teach me to do stuff in Word..... There was a lot more info in the original, but here’s as much as I’m willing to re-find.

ACORN: The recent ACORN scandal was about two conservative activists who dressed up as prostitute and pimp and went to ACORN offices with a hidden video camera to get dirt. Couple of offices shut the door on them, couple called authorities, one very stupid woman “played back” at them, pretending to be a prostitute and giving “advice”. She’s since been fired, as she should have been, as it was a really stupid thing to do and gave ammunition to the conservatives with which to attack them.

Health Care reform: Rasmussen poll is real; but it depends on what poll you read and when it was taken and by whom. RABC/Washington Post:“Americans divide about evenly on the reform plan; but 57 percent support one of the plan's most contentious elements, a government-sponsored insurance option, and that soars to 76 percent if it's limited to those who can't get affordable private insurance”( http://abcnews.go.com/PollingUnit/Politics/obama-health-care-abc-news-
washington-post-poll/story?id=8863442); Gallup: “51% of Americans favor or lean toward favoring a bill, while 41% oppose it or lean toward opposition” ( http://www.gallup.com/poll/123470/Opposition-Healthcare-Legislation-Dr
ops-Modestly.aspx_; Associated Press: “The public is split 40-40 on supporting or opposing the health care legislation”( http://cbs2.com/national/health.care.reform.2.1232611.html)

Obama’s Numbers: Again, depends on what poll and when. Broken down by date, pollster and approve/disapprove:

Rasmussen:
10/18-20 – 47/53
10/15-17 – 49/50
10/12-14 – 48/51

Gallup:
10/18-20 – 50/42
10/15-17 – 53/41
10/3-5 – 51/49

CNN:
10/16-18 – 55/43

ABC/Post:
10/15-18 – 57/40

Fox:
10/13-14 – 49/45

http://www.pollster.com/polls/us/jobapproval-obama.php

Those are the most recent ones. In the first two cases, he went up, then down in a couple of DAYS. Do you really want to hang your hat on “plummet”?

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KWICKO

Friday, October 23, 2009 11:57 PM

By the way, Cheney's big speech, in which he chastised Obama's administration for doing what Bush agreed to do in Iraq, and said Obama was "dithering" in Afghanistan despite Bush's actual REFUSAL to send more troops in when he was asked for them by General McKiernan...

Yeah, FOX was the ONLY "news" outlet that was given an advance copy of that speech. In other words, the Bush Crew STILL shuns everybody BUT Fox.

Oh, and that guy that Bush called a "major-league asshole" who worked at the NY Times? Yeah, Bush refused to give any interviews to the Times for the entirety of his two terms. So they absolutely, definitely, unequivocally shunned the New York Times, the "paper of record".

And in a fluff piece on Fox, former White House spokesmodel Dana Perino came right out and admitted that they refused to deal with MSNBC for the last few years of the Bush administration.

So tell me - WHAT was your problem with Obama shunning Fox?

Mike

Let the wild rumpus start!

NIKI2

Saturday, October 24, 2009 12:58 AM

Yeah, Mike, I caught that one...Fox and their ilk are screaming bloody murder about Obama have a meal with some MSNBC folk; from the way they whine and holler, you'd think it'd been a treasonous act.

Now, during Dumbya's time, liberal media were anathema at the White House--despite requests, they were excluded on a regular basis. Obama met with conservative media BEFORE he met with liberal media when he took office, and has met with both ever since.

Soooo...as usual: Bush did it, it's cool; Obama does it, OMIGAWD THE COUNTRY'S GOING TO COLLAPSE!!! Ya gotta giggle.

Nothing new here, move on...

I don't think they're "shunning" Fox Noise, rather they're being clear, that they're happy to deal with real news media, but will deal with Fox Noise like the propaganda-pushing political hacks they ARE. Seems fair to me. They didn't say there was anything WRONG with Fixed News being "fixed", only that they can't purport to be NEWS by doing so, instead they will be recognized as right-wing "commentators". What's wrong with that?

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KWICKO

Saturday, October 24, 2009 1:18 AM

Also, it should be noted that one of the people Fox touts as one of its "real" - ahem - "journalists" (as opposed to commentators or "entertainers" as they refer to Beck and O'Really) is now appearing at the Americans For Prosperity events - not as a reporter, mind you, but as a paid spokesman and headliner.

How much "reportage" do you suppose this will get on FauxNews? And will they admit that he's there for the cash and to push his agenda?

Mike

Let the wild rumpus start!

NIKI2

Saturday, October 24, 2009 1:43 AM

...and Dumbya is a motivational speaker, did you hear? Yup, few people I've ever seen were as motivated as Shrub Jr., damned few...

Actually, I shouldn't say that, when I think on it; few people have ever motivated ME as much as Jr...

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KWICKO

Saturday, October 24, 2009 2:15 AM

I know - and he's speaking in Fort Worth, not too far from Austin!

I'm actually thinking about strapping on my guns and going to his speech.

And y'know, it might damned well be worth the $19 fee to go hear him. That's cheaper than a night at the comedy club, and almost guaranteed to be twice as damn funny!

Mike

Let the wild rumpus start!

FREMDFIRMA

Saturday, October 24, 2009 3:58 AM

Oh and let's not forget rolling their own "news" a'la Jeffie Gannon, not matter HOW they try to flush that down the Memory Hole.

-F

KWICKO

Saturday, October 24, 2009 4:58 AM

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Oh and let's not forget rolling their own "news" a'la Jeffie Gannon, not matter HOW they try to flush that down the Memory Hole.

-F

Yup. PAYING people at "legitimate" news outlets to write stories favorable to the administration, paying for "news stories" that were nothing more than paid infomercials shilling their latest line of crap, relying on "planted" reporters in the White House press pool, like Jeff Gannon of "Talon News Service".

So, "Hero", Oppyh, and others - What's worse, shunning a "news" organization that's nothing more than a broadcast editorial page masquerading as front-page news, or embracing that same "news" source WHILE PAYING THEM AND FEEDING THEM THE STORIES YOU WANT THEM TO RUN?

Maybe Fox should be required to run a disclaimer before every one of its "newscasts":

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The following is a paid political advertisement, paid for by the Republican National Committee, which is solely responsible for its content. The views and opinions expressed herein are solely the views of the Party, and do not necessarily reflect the views of the meatpuppet reading them off the teleprompter. He's just doing what we tell him, and what we pay him for.

Mike

Let the wild rumpus start!

FREMDFIRMA

Saturday, October 24, 2009 6:00 AM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Yup. PAYING people at "legitimate" news outlets to write stories favorable to the administration

For the record, y'all DO know Michelle Malkin admitted to that, right ?

Just sayin, next time one of the so-called conservatives starts cribbing that shit again...

-F

KWICKO

Monday, October 26, 2009 12:06 PM

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Yup. PAYING people at "legitimate" news outlets to write stories favorable to the administration

For the record, y'all DO know Michelle Malkin admitted to that, right ?

Just sayin, next time one of the so-called conservatives starts cribbing that shit again...

-F

Not only did she do it, and get caught at it, but SHE GOT PROMOTED FOR IT!

So what is it they're complaining about?

Oh, and about that media "bias".

Here's how the "librul" media will report an error in reporting:

"It has come to our attention that certain statements in our earlier coverage of this story cannot be verified [list of statements follows]. For that reason, we cannot include those statements as part of the story. We retract those statements and apologize for the error."

And here's the FauxNews/Rush Limbaugh method:

"Now we haven't been able to confirm the validity of these statements, but we know they FEEL true. And we note for the record that Obama HAS NOT denied raping and killing a 10-year-old boy in 1992, so that MUST be true as well."

Mike

Let the wild rumpus start!