Dollhouse

End Dollhouse campaign!

POSTED BY: Calhoun
UPDATED: Monday, January 25, 2010 14:29
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ECGORDON

Wednesday, October 14, 2009 11:23 PM

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Originally posted by Dewrastler:
What's with all the hostility, everyone? This is supposed to be a place to share ideas, and now we're putting people down for having different opinions and calling each other names. That just doesn't sit right with me.

Yeah, you'd think this was RWED or something.

As for myself, I am continuing to watch Dollhouse and I expect I will for as long as FOX keeps it on the air. Do I love it? No, perhaps I don't even like it some weeks. But there is a potentially great show lurking in there somewhere and I'd like to see it if it ever shows up.

If you don't like it don't watch it, but don't tell me I'm a sheeple for continuing with the show. Hell, I'm still watching Heroes and we all know how bad that has been since the end of Season One.

OPPYH

Thursday, October 15, 2009 4:00 AM

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Originally posted by Storymark:
I'm not sure if there is any such thing as a "true fan", but if there is, I'm pretty sure it's not someone who is a big enough douchebag to think they can declare who is and isn't one, just because they have a differing opinion.

Glad you enjoy Dollhouse. If it gets really good let me know.

Oh, and if you don't like the show....WHY THE HELL ARE YO ARGUING WITH ME?

BYTEMITE

Thursday, October 15, 2009 4:19 AM

Because we don't think Joss should just quit. He has an obligation to his crew, and I haven't seen anything to suggest he doesn't want to work on this.

RAHLMACLAREN

Thursday, October 15, 2009 6:15 AM

Okay, I'll admit this season is starting out suckally(sp?). Much like the last one. I think the people (including me) who know the show isn't as good as it could be, but watch it anyway, are waiting/hoping for another "Man on the Street" moment. An ep that makes you think: "Oh yeah, this is a Joss Whedon show!".

Personally, I was hoping that season 2 would start off in the future after "Epitaph One". Maybe have an opening narration about what happened on the show so far a la "Heroes", but start it close to where we left off....

Select to view spoiler:

The Roof.

Yeah, I'm kind-of interested in Sierra, Echo, Victor, Boyd, Paul, and even Topher; but in comparison, I actually CARE (a lot) about "Little Caroline", Mag, and Zone, and where in the Hell "Save Haven" is!

ETA: Okay, I just noticed this: Is it just me, or does my Tara quote signature look like what would be written on a sign when entering the "Save Haven"?

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Find here the Serenity you seek. -Tara Maclay

OPPYH

Thursday, October 15, 2009 7:14 AM

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Originally posted by Niki2:
While, yes, I would like to see Joss working on something I could appreciate, it's not my place to bitch and moan about what he DOES choose to work on.

It is your place. Everyone has an opinion, and that is what forums are for. To express your likes, and dislikes. I've seen you go batty in the RWED(over opinionated) so why stop with politics? TV is just as fun to discuss. We are all adults, you don't have to worry about offending someone. Be someone......have a voice in pop culture!

BYTEMITE

Thursday, October 15, 2009 3:56 PM

The problem is, this is kind of like arguing over whether a mother should breast-feed or bottle-feed. Pros and cons, but it's still the choice of the parent, and anonymous voices really aren't going to have much influence.

OPPYH

Thursday, October 15, 2009 5:22 PM

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Originally posted by Bytemite:
The problem is, this is kind of like arguing over whether a mother should breast-feed or bottle-feed. Pros and cons, but it's still the choice of the parent, and anonymous voices really aren't going to have much influence.

This is true, but Joss Whedon is making a show for everyone to enjoy. When many people are dissatisfied with the product, it his obligation to make it better(not suck). Or he can choose to go his own way, and be associated with a turkey of a show.

DEWRASTLER

Thursday, October 15, 2009 5:27 PM

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Originally posted by OPPYH:
When many people are dissatisfied with the product, it his obligation to make it better(not suck)

What makes you believe he's not trying?

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People who don't care about anything will never understand the people who do

KWICKO

Thursday, October 15, 2009 5:34 PM

It IS getting a little too RWED in here...

I'm not watching Dollhouse any more, but as I've said, I'd like to come back sometime in the middle of Season Four and find out it's not only the best show on TV ever, but the most popular as well.

Why? Simple. I have ulterior motives. I want Joss to be the biggest badass in Hollywood; I want studios lining up outside his door begging him to let them back his next installment of Firefly or Serenity. I want them beating down his door, pleading with him to help get "Buffy: The Musical" on Broadway.

To do all that, he needs a hit show, not a dud.

In the meantime, anyone who likes Dollhouse should feel free to continue to do so. Who am I to judge what's good and what isn't when it comes to TV? I liked Gilmore Girls; I like Eastwick, and I hate Vampire Diaries, so what do I know?

Mike

The percentage you're paying is too high-priced
While you're living beyond all your means;
And the man in the suit has just bought a new car
From the profit he's made on your dreams

BYTEMITE

Thursday, October 15, 2009 6:21 PM

Ah. See now, that's the thing: you're looking at this show like a product, and "the customer is always right."

There's an element of this, to be sure, it's the same element that determines whether the show's canceled.

But tv shows are also technically art: the writing, the cinematography, the acting.

Any given tv show is going to be some mix between the two. There are tv shows that exist only as a product, something that makes the customer happy, or for them to buy. Children's shows are often an example of this: the show merely exists as a vector to children to buy show-related merchandise.

Or there are shows that exist to try to explore complicated and possibly unpleasant ideas or themes.

Perhaps Dollhouse hasn't been executed well, but the only part of it that is product that I see is that it is a platform for Eliza Dushku. The rest of is trying to be art, and art is the domain ONLY of the artist. Art may be unsuccessful, but it is the EFFORT of the art that is the nobler endeavor.

In short, this is the baby of Joss Whedon and the production crew. The viewers are just along for the ride.