Imponderables: Ridin' For A Fall
POSTED BY: nvghostrider
UPDATED: Thursday, October 1, 2009 02:30
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CK!!!
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Originally posted by CaliforniaKaylee:
Hey guys,
Quick hello and goodbye. Thought I’d swing by and see what was up, got distracted by the fucking idiotic “Underworld vs. Twilight” thread, and, sorry, that’s it, I’m hanging up my browncoat for good. I can’t fucking stand the attitude of what seems like the vast majority of Buffy and Firefly fans towards Twilight, and I’m sick to fucking death of being made to feel unwelcome because I happen to like both Twilight and Firefly. So fuck it. I’m out. I’ll miss you guys.
~CK
You can't take the sky from me...
NOOOO!! *grabs onto an ankle and becomes teh human ball and chain* Stay! Pwease?! *big ole sad eyes*
I'm sorry to see you leave. I can't say I like Twilight, but that's because of how cliche it came across to me as. But then again, I tend to be demanding my movies -- they have to get me involved with what's going on onscreen...
(And besides, even though I mock the show, I still love everyone I know who love it...I just don't see the attraction.)
Come back and visit us...the imponderables or teh bar-and-grill every so often...we miss you!
MsB: Okay, keep making me jealous that you guys are on the gorramn mainland and get to see everyone! *mockpout*
RUGBUG!!! Whee! How's your horse doing? Any better?
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Okay, I've got an imponderable that I'm trying to figure out:
If your friends keep insisting that you'd be great in a different, fairly parallel field of work (e.g. teaching grades school instead of middle or high school) and you personally know that you don't fit the critieria well (not uber organized, able to tolerate one group of kids for one period per day, etc.) whom should you listen to? What you know in your gut is the truth, or what (several) friends keep insisiting that you'd be great at?
I'm starting to wonder if I really don't know what I'm talking about with regards to myself, or if everyone is focusing on the larger parts of the picture, and missing the other parts?
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I should have stated "Historically Speaking" as the behavior stems from prehistoric times and isn't as applicable today.
That is one very interesting observation, the manipulation varying depending on who is being manipulated.
Maybe my prejudice stems from being around way too many stupid people. I hate to judge, but that is the only way I can describe them. People who do not have value for their own communication let alone others.
Perhaps my empathy fatigue is more severe than I had previously assessed. Crap...
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Originally posted by Dancingneko:
Okay, I've got an imponderable that I'm trying to figure out:
If your friends keep insisting that you'd be great in a different, fairly parallel field of work (e.g. teaching grades school instead of middle or high school) and you personally know that you don't fit the critieria well (not uber organized, able to tolerate one group of kids for one period per day, etc.) whom should you listen to? What you know in your gut is the truth, or what (several) friends keep insisiting that you'd be great at?
I'm starting to wonder if I really don't know what I'm talking about with regards to myself, or if everyone is focusing on the larger parts of the picture, and missing the other parts?
I know who I'd listen to and that's myself. I'm stubborn though and you asked who you should listen to. So, I'd say it depends.
It depends on how well your friends know you and how well they know they job they're soliciting. If they know bot really well then I would say that they might be onto something. Is there any sort of temporary assignment you could do to give it a try? Summer school? Substitute teaching? Second life? :-P
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Originally posted by Dancingneko:
RUGBUG!!! Whee! How's your horse doing? Any better?
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Okay, I've got an imponderable that I'm trying to figure out:
If your friends keep insisting that you'd be great in a different, fairly parallel field of work (e.g. teaching grades school instead of middle or high school) and you personally know that you don't fit the critieria well (not uber organized, able to tolerate one group of kids for one period per day, etc.) whom should you listen to? What you know in your gut is the truth, or what (several) friends keep insisiting that you'd be great at?
I'm starting to wonder if I really don't know what I'm talking about with regards to myself, or if everyone is focusing on the larger parts of the picture, and missing the other parts?
Hey DN! Good to see ya!
Horse is doing well. I'm riding him again and it's been lovely. I bought another one a few months ago and am struggling to get to know him, so we have good and bad days, but the last few days have been great. :D
As far as the teaching thing: Have you ever tried teaching elementary school? Are you unhappy with secondary? Could you try elementary on a trial basis?
I got my elementary credentials and I never thought I would want to teach that age. Turns out I didn't really like teaching, but it had little to do with the kids: I did like the age. I also like having the kids in my class all day. I taught 6th grade and the kids can be evil monsters at that age, but once you're in with them, they will do anything for you.
Unfortunately, this isn't an easy trial situation. It's not like everyone says you're a perfect match for so and so even though you think no-way-in-hell. In that case you just go out on a date. If you can figure out a way to 'go-on-a-date' with elementary teaching, you'll be a lot further along to knowing if would be a good match.
And if you're completely satisfied as a secondary teacher...screw 'em all and keep doing what you're doing. ;)
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"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it." - George Bernard Shaw
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It's really about finding the teacher and the right fit for that teacher. When I started I totally thought I'd be an elementary teacher as I love little kids. Just so happened that I got my first job in junior high and it turned out I loved it.... it's totally different. Having been in all levels now.. I'd honestly say give it a try. It is soooooo different from what you think it'll be at each level. ( also if you come to D*C next year you can meet everyone too)
Rugbug if you knew you didn't want to teach why get the degree in that?? Just curious:)
NV I'm surprised, based on all you've been through and continue to go through that your empathy hasn't just packed up and left
To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.
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@Zeek: Thanks! I'm not sure that they have a clue of teaching little kids in the States (claims to have taught elsewhere but haven't verified it yet).
Substitute teaching: Tried it (for a very short while), decided that I really didn't like the idea of being tossed into a classroom blind, since I've done that too much as a regular teacher..
@Rugbug: The part of teaching I am unhappy with is not the teaching the high school kids part, but all the other stuffs that helped to send me over the edge (decisions by admin that made no logical sense -- even if I took into consideration that there are some things that are coming down from "up high") and other various stupidities...
(I get that there's politics in anywhere you work. I refuse to believe any administrator that says "we're going to be the best _in_ _everything_" and when asked to prioritize the "high priority" goals responds with "they're all the same level -- #1.")
I know I get along great with little kids -- on a one-on-one basis...but the one time I babysat for a day, I'm the one that needed the nap...she didn't. lol.
@MsA: I've taught 7-12. I like upper classmen (I can logic with them), 7th graders, 10th graders...and then 9th graders and lastly 8th graders (tho' it might have been the school I was working at for 8th graders). All day with the same kids is tough for my nuttiness.
(and LOL. If I'm teaching, I won't be making it to D*C...I'd be in the middle of the 1st quarter.)
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and just because:
Hunting...I don't do it (just not interested -- unless you count the very occasional time fishing with bamboo pole and bait setup), but I can appreciate the fact that there are those who do (and the bounty of it afterwards). Needing a fully loaded auto clip though is extremely excessive (and says your a lousy hunter imho). Besides, I have a friend or two who prefers hunting using bow and arrows (and a knife or two when needed).
Kel: Fresh bacon's all very well and good, but fresh, whole kalua pig (gut the whole pig, place heated rocks inside the gut, place the whole pig on top of more heated rocks in an earthen pit, cover with banana leaves, then burlap, then dirt and let cook underground for hours until just right) is far better. Teh awesomeness of it all once it's out and hot on the plate? Heaven...
Stubborn (morphed into "communication between the sexes"). Call it more likely "laziness" and the fear that "If I do it, will it become my job to always do that?" (I know that it has happened to more than a couple of people.) That or the passive-agressive "I'll do it when I'm good and ready, not when you want me to." bit.
As for one way of communicating being "better" than the other or not...they're just different. (And trying to get your point across when you communicate one way the way someone else does is very frustrating.)
Pets dying: Understand that. I noticed that there are times when I'd focus on my pet instead of my problems...and losing my last two fishes made me cry both times. I can imagine it being harder with a pet you can actually interact with.
NVG, I really gotta get to you about borrowing your luck (at least with finding MsA...so I'd find Mr. Right sometime before I'm old enough to be a grandma). Then again...*meh* Me and serious relationships seem to be a great source of entertainment for at least one PTB.
Am I caught up now on this thread? *fingers crossed*
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HUGS Neko.. yup you've rung in ( and very articulately ...are you naked too??) on all the topics
It's Sunday...NV's off to paintball and then help out relatives... I am sadly grounded due to rough roads involved so I will be home cleaning and resting...which appears to be about all I can do at this point To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.
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oooh paintball. lucky. sorry you can't tag along MsA.
RugBug!! wow long time no see.
Fair's pretty much done with, back to the dreariness of school. I think I'm gonna pass on the "Women in Love" paper, though I really should start thinking about how to take the most boring books in the world and writing about them ><;; since I unfortunately have to.
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Originally posted by Dancingneko:
CK!!!Quote:
Originally posted by CaliforniaKaylee:
Hey guys,
Quick hello and goodbye. Thought I’d swing by and see what was up, got distracted by the fucking idiotic “Underworld vs. Twilight” thread, and, sorry, that’s it, I’m hanging up my browncoat for good. I can’t fucking stand the attitude of what seems like the vast majority of Buffy and Firefly fans towards Twilight, and I’m sick to fucking death of being made to feel unwelcome because I happen to like both Twilight and Firefly. So fuck it. I’m out. I’ll miss you guys.
~CK
You can't take the sky from me...
NOOOO!! *grabs onto an ankle and becomes teh human ball and chain* Stay! Pwease?! *big ole sad eyes*
I'm sorry to see you leave. I can't say I like Twilight, but that's because of how cliche it came across to me as. But then again, I tend to be demanding my movies -- they have to get me involved with what's going on onscreen...
(And besides, even though I mock the show, I still love everyone I know who love it...I just don't see the attraction.)
Come back and visit us...the imponderables or teh bar-and-grill every so often...we miss you!
MsB: Okay, keep making me jealous that you guys are on the gorramn mainland and get to see everyone! *mockpout*
RUGBUG!!! Whee! How's your horse doing? Any better?
---
Okay, I've got an imponderable that I'm trying to figure out:
If your friends keep insisting that you'd be great in a different, fairly parallel field of work (e.g. teaching grades school instead of middle or high school) and you personally know that you don't fit the critieria well (not uber organized, able to tolerate one group of kids for one period per day, etc.) whom should you listen to? What you know in your gut is the truth, or what (several) friends keep insisiting that you'd be great at?
I'm starting to wonder if I really don't know what I'm talking about with regards to myself, or if everyone is focusing on the larger parts of the picture, and missing the other parts?
You should try to find out from these people what they see as being the well-fitting criteria. I have heard weird suggestions, and asked why they would think that of me. Sometimes it exposes their misunderstanding of me, and other times I learn something about what they see in me, and if what they see overrides the reluctant facets I was concentrating on.
Also sad that CK won't stay. Missed whatever anti-Twilight comments were made.
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I'd listen to whatever my mind thinks is the most comfortable fit for me. I know I would do well in a couple of different fields, but if there are a couple of things about a particular area that lie outside my personal comfort zone (comfort being what I think I can handle without too much undue stress) that I really don't feel comfortable handling on a daily basis--even if others think I'd be great--I just steer clear of it and work in an area I'm confident in. I wouldn't completely disregard what my friends are suggesting, I'd just make it clear to them that I really don't think it's best for me if that's the case.
As for the anti-Twilight, its the "UNDERWORLD X TWILIGHT" thread. Most (maybe even all) of the people who've commented (including myself) on the thread are of the mind that Underworld was better than Twilight, but I kind of wish CK had weighed in on whether she was referring to the book, the movie, or both, because the way I took that thread was pitting movie against movie, since Underworld wasn't a book (least not that I know of). Twilight the movie was a massive disappointment compared to the book, which is why I said I liked Underworld better overall. I actually didn't find the book that bad, regardless of the "abusive relationship" comments circling around, which probably also bothered CK. I really think I have to read it again because I just don't see the abusiveness, since we're just getting one perspective and not an omniscient perspective of what's going on in everyone's minds. [/rambling] Sorry CK :\
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