Imponderables: Ridin' For A Fall
POSTED BY: nvghostrider
UPDATED: Thursday, October 1, 2009 02:30
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WOW it's old home week
HUGS and more HUGS don't leave Ck we love you and we think it's just fine if Twilight makes you happy... ( also on a side note having met CK now... WOWZA.. she's freakin HOT!!!!!)
HUGS Rugbug oh it's so good to see you.. how the horse?
NV well you are an exceptional communicator and all:)
I think what's beign said here is actually all the same thing. Different people have different styles of communicating, but to say that the different styles excuse a failure to communicate is silly. ( example the constant proliferation in the media of the idea that women should expect their husbands to just know what to buy them as a gift and that they can then be hurt and angry that the husband didn't psychically know just the right thing...or the idea that men can't communicate feelings or abstract thought) these sterotypes are super destructive.
Mostly I am annoyed when the media continues to encourage the idea that there is something inherently smarter and better in being a woman... example A parenting magazing article which was titled " discipline tips to control your kids...and they work on husbands too"
Excuse me??? are you implying that my husband is too dumb to manage himself or that it's my place to discipline him???? WTF
OK just got a mental image of Navy ( kilt and all) chasing a haggis down the street with a knife and fork...gigglesnort
To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.
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RugBug! Where have you been hiding all these months? You need to post more young lady!
You didn't like Angel? I thought Angel was even better than Buffy. Seemed more adult to me. I like Firefly over either of them though. I would have said Whedon only gets better...then came Dollhouse. I'm still not fully on board with that one. New season starts tonight though! Plus I got my DVR recording in HD! woohoo!
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Originally posted by MsA:
I think what's beign said here is actually all the same thing. Different people have different styles of communicating, but to say that the different styles excuse a failure to communicate is silly.
Got a good example of a horrible attempt at communication. One of my college buddies called me last night about his gf getting really mad at him. Her family had to put their 17 yearold dog to sleep yesterday and she called him to ask if he wanted to come over and watch Grey's Anatomy (which is apparently code for I'm sad and need comforting). He had an appointment and said he couldn't because he had to go there. She flipped out about how he's never there for her.
I don't give either of them a stellar review, but I don't think she has a leg to stand on if she isn't willing to say, "I'm really sad and need someone to comfort me". He loses points cause he told me that he was at home taking a nap before his appointment. If you have time to take a nap you have time to go comfort your gf for a while before the appointment. He didn't think it would be a big deal cause they knew the dog was not doing well so they should have been prepared. So, I can see both sides of it, but they both need to just say what they're thinking. Jeez!
For the record I totally disagree with him about preparing to put a pet down. Even though I know my kitty is going to go in the not too distant future, I'm still going to be an absolute wreck when it happens.
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Originally posted by Zeek:
RugBug! Where have you been hiding all these months? You need to post more young lady!
You didn't like Angel? I thought Angel was even better than Buffy. Seemed more adult to me. I like Firefly over either of them though. I would have said Whedon only gets better...then came Dollhouse. I'm still not fully on board with that one. New season starts tonight though! Plus I got my DVR recording in HD! woohoo!
Hi MSA/NVG and all others. Big FFF hugs all around.
I've been lurking occasionally, but can only come out to play every once in a while. :D
I must've been unclear. Blame on me being a woman. ;)
I love Angel (although BtVS will always come first, then Firefly, then Angel). I have a problem with how it was cancelled and hold a grudge, therefore I immediately want any vampire show to fail because Angel wasn't allowed to continue. Does that make sense? Well, not sense, because it's kind of a stupid sentiment..but does that explain?
For example: I wouldn't watch Moonlight. Pissed me off that they were giving the 'Vampire with a soul' thing another run...and it wasn't Angel. Well, Moonlight was different, to be sure, but once I watched it, it was entertaining. (Watched it as a tagalong for Veronica Mars. It's odd how you follow actors because they were on one show you really, really liked).
As for Dollhouse. I liked it before...was entertained and could foresee some good stuff. I never, however, would've foreseen Epitaph One and after watching that am beyond excited for tonight. That ep just made me go 'Now THERE'S a kickass show.'
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Can't disagree on any particular point, Zeek.
You can't prepare for a pet dying. Losing a pet is like losing a family member. I know the day I come home and my pup (I call him a pup but he's 12 years old) isn't there to stumble over and say hi I'm gonna bawl my eyes out. 
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Originally posted by Zeek:
I don't give either of them a stellar review, but I don't think she has a leg to stand on if she isn't willing to say, "I'm really sad and need someone to comfort me".
Lots of women are scared to do anything close to that because you don't want to be seen as needy. ;)
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Originally posted by Zeek:
For the record I totally disagree with him about preparing to put a pet down. Even though I know my kitty is going to go in the not too distant future, I'm still going to be an absolute wreck when it happens.
I cried my eyes out when I had to put my cat, who wasn't really even mine, down. I had plans that night and still went...what a total mistake that was. :D
I read about your kitty. :(
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Pet sadness is very serious... but yes I am surprised she didn't say hey I'm really upset can you come over and I'm surprised he didn't offer hey you must eb really bummed over the dog want me to come cheer you up... they had a combined suckage score of 7.5 To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.
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Originally posted by freelancertex:
I know the day I come home and my pup (I call him a pup but he's 12 years old)
hehe I call my kitty pup sometimes. If she comes over and looks at me like I'm supposed to know what she's thinking I'll just say "what's up, pup?". Yeah I'm a dork and call her "pup" to make it rhyme.
I left out the best part of that story btw. This is what officially sways things in my friends favor by a wide margin. They were dating long distance for a couple years. Apparently at some point in there she was sleeping with some other local dude. Their mutual friends eventually told my friend. He didn't know what to think and called me a bunch asking for advice. He decided to wait to talk to her about it until he saw her in person. He let her off the hook with the excuse of "she didn't think we were serious".
Anyway, in their argument last night she called him untrustworthy because he didn't tell her right away that he knew she was sleeping with some other dude. Now if that's not the most twisted logic ever I'd sure like to hear what is.
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At the risk of being beaten from the board:
I never was a fan of Buffy or Angel. Some of the Buffy stand alone episodes are great, but with little chance to give Angel a try it seems the episode or two I saw will stand as the only examples of the show for me. I may be giving Buffy a try seeing as we have the series laying about but Firefly will stand as the reigning Whedon material for me. On the subject of Dollhouse, I find it likable with the potential to be better. Though it was a great episode, Epitaph One kinda ruined the series for me. It can be thought of as an alternate or attainable future. I was just left with holes for a possible second season story line. This may work out to benefit the second season as I have no idea where it can be going.
Back to the communication variances: I mentioned quite a while ago the idea of women being better liars and how it ties in as a primitive defense mechanism due to being the physically weaker sex. Misdirection and deception being a more effective tool rather than risking physical harm. It makes sense that some women may use less direct verbal communication as a way of protecting their actions and ideals. Some of my point may be that there should be no need for this if men and women are to truly be equal.
For some reason I've always been less attracted to women leaning too far on either side of being aggressive or passive. People with an assertive demeanor have always held a greater attractiveness to me.
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Originally posted by nvghostrider:
Back to the communication variances: I mentioned quite a while ago the idea of women being better liars and how it ties in as a primitive defense mechanism due to being the physically weaker sex. Misdirection and deception being a more effective tool rather than risking physical harm. It makes sense that some women may use less direct verbal communication as a way of protecting their actions and ideals. Some of my point may be that there should be no need for this if men and women are to truly be equal.
Um, I don't think we are better liars or maybe a better word is manipulators. We're DIFFRENT liars/manipulators. And we're different with women than we are with men.
And it isn't that our verbal communication is less direct, it's different. A lot of women would understand 'my dog died, do you want to come over with watch Grey's' as a direct request for company. I even get that and I'm a 'buck up' type person. (But man...that relationship sounds awful. Maybe they're meant for each other).
To be equal..one communication style shouldn't be preferred over the other or thought 'better than.' etc. We shouldn't be striving for men and women to communicate the same, but rather that each style is heard and understood and valued. THAT's true equality.
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