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Damn Hippies

POSTED BY: Wulfenstar
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Wednesday, September 2, 2009 6:14 PM

"Hippies" (since you want to use that word) are NOT for government control! Quite the opposite!

I said that getting women out of the kitchen had good and bad points. Ask women if they would rather be still stuck in the kitchen before you make judgments.

WE didn't spit on those who came back from Vietnam...there are extremes in every culture, don't blame the entire section of that culture for society's actions. I got news for you, so did millions of non-hippies.

As to civil rights, it doesn't change overnight. Society doesn't take change easily or quickly, there are phases to go through. By your reasoning, everything we few did should have solved the problem immediately and completely, or we're trash, eh?

Ain't hippies who stand in judgment of those who don't drive Priuses. Those as can afford them and care about the planet drive them...the rest of us recycle, inflate our tires, turn off the lights and unplug our electronic devices at night, combine our errands to minimize gas usage, work in animal rehab, try to educate others, vote for what we can that helps, and try to minimize our footprints, while realizing you don't change the world in a day and it'll probably go the way it's going despite us. Some of us ended up in the Peace Corps. I've never seen or heard a single person, aging hippie or otherwise, "look down on" someone driving a Prius.

Who taught you to be nihilistic and self-absorbed? HAH! Don't push that off on a small part of an entire society, and don't make excuses. OUR parents taught us to accept government, white-only buses, religion, women in the kitchen, going to war and consumerism. We went the other way. What's your excuse?

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Wednesday, September 2, 2009 6:14 PM

Hey, Im from the North... so most of the Hippies here are the rich offspring of those they claim to rage against... in other words... boogie, wannabes.

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Wednesday, September 2, 2009 6:19 PM

That explains your attitude on the matter. Believe it or not, it's not universal; where I live, there are many, many aging hippies (especially down in Santa Cruz area and North of us) who live quietly.

How do you KNOW those rich people are offspring of hippies? Have you asked them? Or are they just of a certain age? Bear in mind, we were a small segment of society, and that selective memory I mentioned...an awful lot of people "remember" themselves as hippies who weren't, and the vast majority WEREN'T, the age was just remembered as the time of the flower children because we made an impact and because it's romanticized.

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Wednesday, September 2, 2009 6:24 PM

Im not saying that the so-called ideals of hippies wern't grand....

Equality for everyone.

Peace.

Fight the powers that be.

Hell, I can defiantly follow those edicts...

Except...

When equality actually means slavery. And peace is bought at the price of pride. Or fighting the powers that be, but then going home to you mansion...

It all reeks of elitism, and being spoiled.

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Wednesday, September 2, 2009 6:34 PM

And I repeat: Do you KNOW that all those you spoke of are aging hippies?? I find more pride in peace than in war, sorry, especially wars we fight for the wrong or no reason.

Equality equals slavery? Whaaaa??? Where you got that one, I'll never figure. So we haven't achieved perfect equality yet, for women or others; that's the same as SLAVERY??? Wow.

I give up. I've said my piece, I'm gonna unplg my computer, go walk the dogs (which I have to drive to do because of leash laws, and which I combine with other things, and go to the nearest place to do). Then take my motorcycle to go to the market, hit the hardware store, pick up dog food and come home--I can get a LOT on my motorcycle . Probably plug in the TV and work on my plants the rest of the day, after cleaning the rabbit cages (yuck). Didn't go anywhere yesterday, won't go anywhere tomorrow except to walk the dogs. Hubby took HIS motorcycle to work (as opposed to bicycling to the ferry, which he does some other days). He doesn't drive his car except to run errands on the weekend, many of which he does by bicycle.

But we're spoiled hippies. How's about you?

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Wednesday, September 2, 2009 6:55 PM

Hey, great.

Individuals can be awesome, groups suck. Same as always.

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Wednesday, September 2, 2009 8:26 PM

Quote:

Frat boys still got drunk; women still stayed in the kitchen, society at large called us all sorts of names, and police beat us up with impunity. But we TRIED. We CARED. We gave a freaking damn, and many of us still remember how to.
Damn straight. I marched. Some of my friends did... quite a bit more. We wanted peace and justice, a community that cared. A cleaner environment. A better world.

I don't see that passion much any more. All anybody seems to want is the latest iPhone. It's an embrassment to care... today, you gotta be amusing, quick with the put-down. Able to find the best price for any object. Rap culture writ large.


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Wednesday, September 2, 2009 8:41 PM

"Damn straight. I marched. Some of my friends did... quite a bit more. We wanted peace and justice, a community that cared. A cleaner environment. A better world."

A better world....

Where have I heard that before?

Oh yeah... Serenity.


"The Operative: It's not my place to ask. I believe in something greater than myself. A better world. A world without sin."

"These are just a few of the images we've recorded. And you can see, it wasn't what we thought. There's been no war here and no terraforming event. The environment is stable. It's the Pax. The G-23 Paxilon Hydrochlorate that we added to the air processors. It was supposed to calm the population, weed out aggression. Well, it works. The people here stopped fighting. And then they stopped everything else. They stopped going to work, they stopped breeding, talking, eating. There's 30 million people here, and they all just let themselves die."


and heres my answer.

[B}Capt. Malcolm Reynolds: Y'all Got On This Boat For Different Reasons, But Y'all Come To The Same Place. So Now I'm Asking More Of You Than I Have Before. Maybe All. Sure As I Know Anything, I Know This - They Will Try Again. Maybe On Another World, Maybe On This Very Ground Swept Clean. A Year From Now, Ten? They'll Swing Back To The Belief That They Can Make People... Better. And I Do Not Hold To That. So No More Runnin'. I Aim To Misbehave.


Admit it Sig, THIS is what you want.

Where the rest of us, these few hold outs, have to just lay down and die so you can have your so called "better world"?

Well, fuck that.






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Wednesday, September 2, 2009 8:47 PM

Never, Sig, not in this life or the next.

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Wednesday, September 2, 2009 9:11 PM

Wulf, you insist on misunderstanding me. A better world meant LESS authority, not more. I didn't see any hippies fighting to send people to war, or trying to put people in jail, or fostering prejudice. I saw people trying to free themselves and their friends. Something that YOU claim to want to do. With a gun, if necessary, FORCING people to live in YOUR view of "a better world". So WTF makes you think you're better? WTF makes you think you're not Alliance?

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