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Wednesday, September 2, 2009 9:22 PM

You are mistaken.

Threat of arms in my last resort.

But, should it come to that... well..

lol

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Wednesday, September 2, 2009 9:31 PM

Okay, it's official, Frem and Niki have to face off in a typing competition :) (Start your clocks...)

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Wednesday, September 2, 2009 9:43 PM

My contribution to the world is right around $4.50 a pack right now.

"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned."

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Wednesday, September 2, 2009 9:55 PM

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You are mistaken.
As are you. Pull your head out of your ^ss once in a while.

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Wednesday, September 2, 2009 10:34 PM

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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
You are mistaken.

Threat of arms in my last resort.

But, should it come to that... well..

lol




This seems disingenuous. the 'lol' at the end suggests that you rather hope it WILL come to that.

I hope I'm wrong about this, but...

--WhoDied


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Wednesday, September 2, 2009 10:56 PM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
It's an embrassment to care... today, you gotta be amusing, quick with the put-down.



I'm suddenly abashed to realize that that was MY first response, has been my first (often only) response. How tacky. Caring is risky though, and painful. I've hidden from it for many years, but how has that helped even me? I believe it's time to roll the stone away, as it were, and go forth from my cave.

Only, with SO MANY fundamental ills plaguing society, where do I start?



--WhoDied


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Well, I guess I kinda worked it out. If there is no great glorious end to all this, if nothing we do matters, then all that matters is what we do. 'cause that's all there is. What we do, now, today. - I fought for so long. For redemption, for a reward, finally just to beat the other guy, but... I never got it.

And now you do?

Not all of it. All I wanna do is help. I wanna help because I don't think people should suffer, as they do. Because, if there is no bigger meaning, then the smallest act of kindness is the greatest thing in the world.


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Wednesday, September 2, 2009 11:32 PM

I was too young to be considered that generation. I had high school to finish and then after graduation, in 1970, the selective service had me take a physical examination. I passed with flying colors and got my draft number. A low number. I shit my pants.

I suspect I knew as much about Vietnam as the next man, who probably was sweating over the draft as much as myself. I remember seeing Buddist Priests setting themselves on fire in protest on the city streets in Vietnam. One particular piece that stands out, in my mind, is a reporter talking to a soldier who was firing his M16 on full auto and then bending down to slam another clip in his rifle and then emptying that clip as fast as he could, to create, what I believe is called suppressive fire. This was during the 68 Tet Offensive. The reporter asked him what his thoughts were. I am sure the soldier had more on his mind at the moment then the whys of what he was doing. But he answered,"This is bullshit".

After hearing that, I started paying more attention to the goings on over there and soon understood our leaders did not have a clue. I ended up getting a draft deferment and an education.

I know about the people spitting on our soldiers when they returned from Vietnam. If this was the majority, the airports would have been packed with tens of thousands of demonstrators. These people were the minority and did not represent the vast numbers who were protesting against the war. One of my closest friends and my brother in law served in Vietnam and I would never consider either of them baby killers. They did what they felt was right. We were all young and made coices with very little knowledge to go on.

But it was not only the Vietnam War I witnessed the people of that age protest. Reverend King and many who followed his ideas of peaceful demonstrations were getting the attention of the media. If you think these marches for civil rights were only done by blacks, then I suggest you review the news reels and you will see white faces in those marches. There is one particular Jim Crow Law, where blacks are to move to the back of the bus when white people are riding on it at the same time. So to make the point of people sitting where they pleased, they needed white people to volunteer to sit in the back of a bus while the black people sat in the front. If they could not have gotten white people to volunteer, then the demonstration could not have taken place. It took both black and white people working together to get the United States to see the injustice in the Jim Crow Laws. If you study civil rights you will find several generations have been fighting this battle. Not just those in the sixties.

Now, I will repeat myself. I was young. I graduated in 1970 and my only concern was my ass. I did not want it shot off in a war that nobody could tell with any logic why we were fighting in it. I got my draft deferment and worked hard in school so I would have a job afterwards. That was my concern. I did not march or write letters to my congressman. I just wanted to stay clear of that damn Vietnam War.

I never met a person who burned their draft card or took off for Canada. Just like myself, men I new tried to get a draft deferment by attending school and applying themselves there. I was not involved in any marches or riots. Of those I know, who did serve, did our country proud. They did their service in Vietnam and came back to start a life for themselves. I got the nerve to ask a veteran of the Marine Corp, who was attending my school on the GI Bill, what it was like over there. He said, "You don't want to go." I took his word for it.
I liked the veterans in our school. They used to tease me. Said I would make a good tunnel rat. They give a forty-five auto and a grenade and send you in a enemy tunnel to root out the V.C. I am only 5'-6" tall and was small enough to squeeze in those caves the Viet Cong liked to hide in. They would tell me how long my life expectancy would be.

It has been forty years now and those who served, either in the trenches of V

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Thursday, September 3, 2009 12:16 AM

Signym...you my age? I turn 61 next month...old geezer, that's me!

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Where the rest of us, these few hold outs, have to just lay down and die so you can have your so called "better world"?
That would be hysterical, if it weren't so pathetic. "We wanted peace and justice, a community that cared." Yeah, nuke 'em, nuke 'em one and all for wanting THAT kind of crap!
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Okay, it's official, Frem and Niki have to face off in a typing competition :) (Start your clocks...)
Hey, I type 125wpm last time I was timed, and typing is like talking to me...wanna place some bets?

Yeah, Who, I got the same impression as you...and
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Caring is risky though, and painful.
you forgot "frustrating as hell". Because we may save ANWAR today, but they can take it away tomorrow...and when they kill the last whale, we can't get one back. It's a constant, lifetime battle and we never truly "win". We can build a Constitution, but then a Bush can come along...you get the idea.

But I believe
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If there is no great glorious end to all this, if nothing we do matters, then all that matters is what we do. 'cause that's all there is.
I want to leave knowing I TRIED.

Traveler: Well said. And very right on, if you'll pardon the dated expression. And as a whole, I agree completely:
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There is no defining the youth of the sixties, except we did what all youth do, and that is make decisions with the eighteen years of experience were given.

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Thursday, September 3, 2009 12:41 AM

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Only, with SO MANY fundamental ills plaguing society, where do I start?
With a heartfelt virtual hug from me.
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Because, if there is no bigger meaning, then the smallest act of kindness is the greatest thing in the world.
wow.

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Thursday, September 3, 2009 1:15 AM

Yeah, have a hug from me too. It was a tossup between that quote and the one I chose, Sig...both are "wow".

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