Tonight's Buffy gets four stars!!
POSTED BY: Hjermsted
UPDATED: Monday, November 18, 2002 21:06
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Here's a great review **** out of four rating!
'Buffy' returns to chat up the dead
http://www.usatoday.com/life/television/2002-11-11-buffy-usat_x.htm
mattro
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thanks for the link. tonight's buffy was pretty awesome. It was the first episode to really get me excited about this season. All the ones before it, excepting Selfless, have been pretty boring and disappointing. the new big bad looks scary. I loved it when not-really-Cassie's grin grew and like ate her whole body. that was wicked. and oh boy what's up with Spike.
Warrick: You didn't have to wound that man.
Mal: Yeah, I know. It was just funny.
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I know, I was shocked by the ending. If this is the last season, they're really going out with a bang. The Big Bad, the Beast, really looks like the worst yet, I can't wait till this sunday's Angel when he rises up.
AND THEY KILLED JONATHON! I couldn't believe it. I kept expecting him to escape or something, but they killed him...
And Spike... eh, who am I kiding, I wasn't very surprised. They should have dusted him way back in season 4, maybe even 2. I guess the Beast took out his chip along with giving him back his soul.
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Originally posted by Bulbus:
AND THEY KILLED JONATHON! I couldn't believe it. I kept expecting him to escape or something, but they killed him...
Yeah! I couldn't believe it. I mean it ws Jonathon! And the episode was written by Espenson, who is really close friends with Danny Strong. I guess if Jonathon was destined to die, she wanted to write it...
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And Spike... eh, who am I kiding, I wasn't very surprised. They should have dusted him way back in season 4, maybe even 2. I guess the Beast took out his chip along with giving him back his soul.
Don't be silly. We've seen Spike hit humans and be in pain since he got his soul. And let's not forget, with the Morph-o-monster in town--a creature that can imulate not only a face, but a personality, and be in more than one place at te same time--can we really trust our eyes? Let's wait until next week before giving up on William entirely, m'kay?
Yeah, awsome episode.
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I don't know... Spike's been proven to be the new Big Bad's lackey before... And could the Big Bad sire the psychological vampire if it wasn't Spike? We'll have to find out, but you're right, we can't trust everything we see until the very end this season. Like I read that Jonathon's supposedly in the next episode, when the Scooby's kidnap Andrew... grrr... (residual anger there) and Jonathon. Probably though, Jon will be the Big Bad in disguise again. I'm still waiting for Angel. Comics Continuum has a great picture of the Beast in all his unglory and then a shot of a very bloody, beaten Angel
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WOW! This episode ranks up there with the best of 'em all (easily the best non-Whedon written episode). I love that this show can still delight and surprise.
However, I think the Willow/'Cassie' scenes would have been much more powerful had they been played with Tara instead (as originally intended). Can you imagine, after all of that "I miss you" talk and emotional stuff, having Tara ask Will to kill herself so they could be together!? Damn! What a shame Amber Benson's agents and Fox couldn't agree on a contract.
Buffy's conversations with the Dartmouth vamp were hilarious. Dawn took a hell of a beating (literally) and is toughening up nicely. Spike... I have no idea what's up with that bloke, though it was great the way he had no dialogue the entire episode yet spoke the loudest in the final segment.
Here's a question for you...
Is California really having TWO seperate apocalypses (one in L.A. and one in Sunnydale)? Or are the impending catastrophes on Angel and Buffy somehow the same event?
mattro
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The Beast, presumably the name of the Big Bad, as in Apocalypse, Revelations and all that. The Beast rises up out of the sea in Angel, since he's right on the coast and all. Angel Investigations tries to send him packing, and fail supposedly.
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Big honkin' evil is a risin' in Sunnydale, and Big honkin' evil is comming for LA. Concidence? Apparently so! (Although I have a theory on that I'll post at a later date). Yep, the SoCal events are unrelated, according to an interview I read with an Angel scribe.
Also, I disagree that the Willow/Tara scenes from "Conversations" would have been better with Benson. Don't get me wrong. I love the actress and the character, and I have to rate the Will/Tara relationship as my second fav BTVS relationship of all time. That said, I think Willow's grief and longing were all the more palbable with her knowing that Tara was there, but not being able to see her, hear her, touch her... Powerful stuff. Very Ghost-esque. And the ending, where it turns out to be the Morph-o-monster... Well, let's just say, that as someone that literally grew up on horror movies, most don't scare me. But this is one of only a very very few episodes that genuinely creeped me out.
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Originally posted by Hjermsted:
WOW! This episode ranks up there with the best of 'em all (easily the best non-Whedon written episode).
Here's a question for you...
Is California really having TWO seperate apocalypses (one in L.A. and one in Sunnydale)? Or are the impending catastrophes on Angel and Buffy somehow the same event?
mattro
I'm hoping for one big happy conflagration.
I agree with you about the non-JW episode. This was deeply good, and scarier than most movies.
The forms on the couch, Cassie's grin (Ralph Steadman!).
Everybody dealt with their horrors pretty well, except of course Andrew (who was always my favorite of the trio). Talk about homo-erotic overtones...(that's another thread)
I've finally resigned myself to Bad Spike, though he could always suprise us.
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So here is my question about the episode:
Joyce... Was she morphy, and the monster attacking her was there to win Dawnie's trust?
Or was she really Joyce and the monster attacking her was a minion of the morph-o-monster?
Either option works... First one works to make Dawn mistrust Buffy, and we've found that for whatever reason, Joss & Co. like to split the team up before they bring them back together to fight the big bad (Yoko Factor, anyone?). Option 2 works if Buffy will be manipulated by morphy into hurting Dawn and Joyce somehow sees that and wants to warn her.
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Andrew: The boy is our last hope.
Warren: No, there is another.
Andrew: Really? Who's our last hope?
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