A Defiant 'Verse OOC II *Sign Ups Open!*
POSTED BY: Defiant2thelast
UPDATED: Monday, August 10, 2009 09:50
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Out of character chatter is not a requirement, nor is it necessary for moving the IC forum further, but the entire point is to get to know people better, so that we're more like a family rather than just posting for a character. We have our characters, and each other.
And in regards to feeling targeted, yes, the argument was brought up in regards partially to what you said, but in no way was meant to target you personally, just the subject you mentioned.
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Why you guys bring up some interesting points.
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Now, having said all this, I do believe that Defiant is run more like an old Tabletop RPG. The "roleplaying" comes in somewhat aecondary to the "game" part. That means he's looking more for your reactions to things that happen, than how you feel about what happened. He's looking to see what you DO, what choices you make. Not read reams on your internal conflicts and motivations. That doesn't mean they shouldn't be included - that's what makes it fun to both read and write these things. So - don't leave it out, but be aware that what you do will have consequences that he's not going to cooperate with you to "work through". If you make a mistake, you might pay for it.
You pretty much highlighted what it is that's always intrigued me about this particular RP, the fact that it's mainly reaction-driven. If you screw up, you will suffer the consequences. It's up to you to dig your way out of whatever predicament your character stumbles into, the GM is not going out of his way to make it easier for you. I think it's a beautiful thing. I did the whole "collaborative writing" trip once, twice, thrice, and I find that it makes for a lesser RP experience in that it robs me of my ability to react. Planning the plot ahead amongst ourselves and adding in the meat as we post becomes more of a writing exercise than a game, and that, to put it bluntly, simply fails to keep me interested.
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Another thing - I've been encouraged twice, I believe, to post for another character. I can't do that. I dont' KNOW them.
I am completely with you there. I don't post for characters other than mines, and I certainly don't expect other players to roleplay my characters. While I can appreciate that godmodding might ultimately prove a necessary evil to keep the RP going in instances such as when a player completely falls off the map, I prefer to leave it to the GM(s).
Finally, on the topic of OOC talkity talk, I see where you guys are coming from, but remember that some people just aren't into that sort of thing. Me, I'm all for mass communication, staying up until 2AM chatting, making friends out of my fellow players, all that good stuff. But I recognize that some people might not be as eager as I. I don't think it's so much an issue of us "not needing it" at the moment as it is of us not quite being there as a group. Some RP groups just hit it off straight away, others, well, don't. It doesn't mean the RP is guaranteed to flop, it's just gonna function differently.
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Again, not saying anyone HAS to - I just want to make sure they['ve considered the benefits of it. Until Oberon, the only reason I knew people in the RPGs I was in was usually only because they were sitting across the table from me, face to face.
I don't care if they do or not - but I know I like the benefits of it myself, so I want to make sure they know what they're missing lol.
And yeah - I totally see what you mean about the difference in reactionary and collaborative RP. I've done reactionary to death in tabletop. In play by post, I prefer the other, mainly because, without Dice, let's be honest - we're all godmoding ourselves to a certain extent. No dice, no stats, no clear line of failure. In a play by post, it's even worse, because it's arbitrarily up to a GM, who could decide to screw you if he's in a bad mood, whereas, the dice don't HAVE moods. If he doesn't like you're plan of action, he can decide to just leave you behind, or worse. And in some games, you don't even have the OPTION of fixing things - you're DONE. So I'm more for dice or collaborative, not something in between. That said, I'm not AGAINST it either, and lookie, I'm still here, so obviously I'm willing to play it lol.
Sometimes, I just like to know something was said - just so that the words were heard, and the other person's brain can process them. I don't want any particular reaction, I just want to know they thought about it. My players know I will sometimes do this - post something just to make them think about it. NO changes requested, no orders given, just a subject I want to know they thought about. I think it's good for people to think :)
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Originally posted by Shadesiren:
I do believe that Defiant is run more like an old Tabletop RPG. The "roleplaying" comes in somewhat aecondary to the "game" part. That means he's looking more for your reactions to things that happen, than how you feel about what happened. He's looking to see what you DO, what choices you make. Not read reams on your internal conflicts and motivations.
This is exactly what was set out for when I found the idea of the Defiant, and a vision shared when I conscripted Lincoln to the scene. Like AP has also stated, the collaborative writing never washed right with me. I’ve done a couple of them, and many with AP himself. However, I never could have foreseen the mountain of stuff in my life right now. Thus, I have become increasingly more absent from the Defiant and this has had a negative effect on the role play. Thus, me and Lincoln have come to the following decision:
Lincoln is your new GM. Nathan will be written off in the near future (which was previously planned anyway, which is why his write up was so ambiguous) and Lincoln will probably take captain. While I will still play a part in this role play and the decision made for the direction it goes in, I simply have to stand back.
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what?? My beloved despised captain?!? Who will Dale smirk at now?? I was only just discovering Dale's mix of jealousy, righteous moral dislike and logically held (if not felt) respect for him!!
Sorry to hear you're being taken away from us mate.
Im glad its not a complete withdrawal.
If Nathans character is being withdrawn, will you be playing villains and randoms? or is the old guy we brought on-board an interesting character, not just a dead body in waiting??
Hmm.
I really am sorry to see you have to step back
BUT the possibilities you've just opened up are endless! I feel guilty for being excited now too..
final note- I really like the way you've set this RPG up. Describing it would repeat everyone else, so-
kudos to your fine work.
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O man, where do I start?
When I signed on with The Defiant, there was a statement somewhere that we would post at least once a week. This was an important consideration for me because that's about as often as I will be willing to participate.
Lincoln, congrats on your promotion to new GM. Defiant, I'm sorry to see you go, but I completely understand. I hope everything smooths out for you soon.
As the new GM, Lincoln, I will abide by your rules, guidelines, advice, and suggestions. It feels like there is a new dynamic here that's trying to change things. As it's a fairly new game, I'm sure we'll change, evolve, and grow, but if the changes don't work with my lifestyle, well... then they won't.
I'd love to spend hours on here every day, but my life is too full to allow for that. RPG participation is a hobby, a source of pleasure from the daily-daily. This is not the only RPG I'm involved in. Plus, I write fiction on my own.
I don't talk about my other RPGs here because this is The Defiant. Each RP has a character and personality and style of its own and I don't see the need to make comparisons.
I generally won't be reading the posts or writing as my character, even a sentence or two, more than once a week. If there are going to be pages and pages of posts to read every week in both the OoC and the IC threads, then I'll have to leave, too, because I don't want to participate in that kind of RPG.
I've been writing in RPs for years and have made good friends through them, and I didn't do it by chatting with them every day. The best friendships form over time and at their own pace.
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Originally posted by Celestia:
This was an important consideration for me because that's about as often as I will be willing to participate.
Aye, this was my problem near the end. Due to the Defiant picking up speed, posting once a week (which was all I could possibly do) was simply TOO slow for it.
Lincolnz: Buttle... to duel with ones buttocks
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Sorry for not posting for so long - real life interfering.
But... FOR THE LOVE OF EXPLOSIVES!
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Signing out, everyone.
The changes in the guidelines and in RL make it impossible for me to continue.
It's been great getting to know you all -- Defiant, Lincoln, Bucket, ElPagan, and YinYang. Nice chatting with you guys and with Moe on Chatzy.
Good luck to the rest of you that I didn't get a chance to know better.
Have a great RP! I'm sure it'll be one of the best.
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Farewell Celestia. Wish it could have turned out better but we all tried. You'll be missed.
Dale's acting medic again now so brush up on your treatments for broken ribs, limbs and faces...
I am very proud of the last posts by Bucket, Dale and Mei. You guys did awesome and it gives me new hope that this RP won't fade away.
I'll post IC sometime soon(in a few hours I hope) so everyone sit tight. I apologize for not posting sooner, I've been a bit overwhelmed with taking over GM duties. I've done it before, however briefly, so I know I can do it again. I've got all of you to lean on and help me out, so together we'll keep this going on towards better days for the crew and ship.
We're about to be boarded and rounded up by the Alliance, their ship isn't the biggest, or the best, but they are a hell of a lot bigger than us and have some big guns to boot. The space around us is crazy, others who can are trying to escape, debris is everywhere. Let's get cracking and tell some good stories.
I'll be announcing something very important and major to the future of the RP in the next couple days sometime. Don't worry, it will change some things but we as a crew, the rules and the story will remain the same. Hopefully the only change will be for the better.
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