Venezuela imposes more media controls. Chavez plays maracas.
POSTED BY: Geezer
UPDATED: Monday, September 29, 2025 15:29
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How about: The Jews are creating this recession? Shall we print that?
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Originally posted by SignyM:
How about: The Jews are creating this recession? Shall we print that?
PN prints it all the time. Any pogroms on RWED yet?
But, yeah. If folk want to print that, it's fine. Because someone else can print something to refute it. People with open minds will look at the evidence and make a rational decision. People with closed minds aren't going to be swayed from their prejudices.
And once again...if we censor the media, who decides? Do you trust government that much?
"Keep the Shiny side up"
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There are two ways to ensure media accuracy:
1) Hold each purveyor to some standard of truthfulness.
2) Allow everyone free access to the media, with no control over content.
You can't have powerful economic interests in control of the media AND have no restrictions on content, otherwise you'll wind up like any other tinpot dictatorship with only one POV allowed, which is sheer propaganda. So, which do you prefer, geezer? Kicking the wealthy out of their seat of power, or requiring that content bears some element of truth... or both?
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Originally posted by SignyM:
There are two ways to ensure media accuracy:
1) Hold each purveyor to some standard of truthfulness.
Who's standard? Where do you get the completely unbiased, unprejudiced, incorruptable person/people/government agency to determine, first, what is truth, and second, who is hewing to it? But of course, you know what we should be allowed to see and hear.
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2) Allow everyone free access to the media, with no control over content.
Look at the internet lately?
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You can't have powerful economic interests in control of the media AND have no restrictions on content, otherwise you'll wind up like any other tinpot dictatorship with only one POV allowed, which is sheer propaganda.
And you can't have the powerful governmental interests in control of the media AND plenty of restrictions, or you end up with five hours a day of Hugo Chavez telling you how great he is.
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So, which do you prefer, geezer? Kicking the wealthy out of their seat of power, or requiring that content bears some element of truth... or both?
Neither. I prefer that people get to do the work of figuring out for themselves what's truth for them and what's not. I like that a lot better than allowing you to decide what news I can watch, what books I can read, what people I can hear speak.
"Keep the Shiny side up"
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Quote:Oh, so you like the wealthy being in charge. And when it comes to standing up for "net neutrality" you close your eyes and plug your ears, 'cause you like the freedom, but not if it crosse$ TPTB. You're a big suckup.
So, which do you prefer, geezer? Kicking the wealthy out of their seat of power...? Signy
Neither. Geezer
HOOOOKay.
I knew that already.
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Originally posted by SignyM:
Oh, so you like the wealthy being in charge.
Ah. Once again the bitter taste of the words you put in my mouth.
I don't like anyone being in charge. But I especially don't like you deciding what truth is.
I notice you continue to dodge the "Who decides?" question.
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And when it comes to standing up for "net neutrality" you close your eyes and plug your ears...
Huh? I'd prefer anyone to be able to publish or read anything on the internet, not just what you consider "the truth". I have my doubts that giving government control of the process will enhance that goal.
"Keep the Shiny side up"
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Oh, and Signy, who decides what is truth?
"Keep the Shiny side up"
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CARACAS, Venezuela — President Hugo Chavez said Wednesday his government will buy dozens of Russian tanks because Venezuela feels threatened by a pending deal for the U.S. military to increase its presence in neighboring Colombia.
Chavez announced the plan while condemning Colombia's negotiations on an agreement to let U.S. forces use at least seven of its military bases.
"We're going to buy several battalions of Russian tanks," Chavez said at a news conference, saying the deal is among accords he hopes to conclude during a visit to Russia in September.
Chavez's government has already bought more than $4 billion worth of Russian arms since 2005, including helicopters, fighter jets and Kalashnikov assault rifles.
The socialist leader called Colombia's plan to host more U.S. soldiers a "hostile act" and a "true threat" to Venezuela and its leftist allies. He warned that a possible U.S. buildup could lead to the "start of a war in South America," but gave no indication that Venezuela's military is mobilizing in preparation for any conflict.
Chavez is seeking to pressure Colombia to turn back on its base plan. He threatened to cut back on imports from Colombia, an important source of goods from milk to chicken, and replace them with purchases from Argentina and Brazil.
Trade between Venezuela and Colombia reached $7.2 billion last year. Chavez noted there had been plans to import 10,000 automobiles from Colombia, but said that due to the impasse that figure will become "zero."
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Hello Signy,
I am confused as to what specific problem you have with Free Speech?
What is it that you are worried people might say if they aren't regulated by a government agency?
--Anthony
"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner
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Such measures come at no easy time for Tegucigalpa, which felt the effects of the global economic downturn before the coup. The country’s $14 billion economy contracted by 3.6 percent in the first half of 2009 compared to 3.1 percent growth during the period in 2008. Honduran exports dropped by 15 percent in the first quarter, likely hurt by U.S. economic woes. The United States, its main trading partner, accounts for 70 percent of the country’s exports. With fuel prices rising, the country’s economy was dealt another blow when Venezuelan President Hugo Chávez, a close Zelaya ally, announced in July that his country would stop Petrocaribe oil shipments to Honduras. The curfews and protests waged in the country since the coup have also bitten the Honduran tourism industry, with hotel occupancy down by figures in the double digits.
www.as-coa.org/article.php?id=1871
As things shake out in Honduras, I predict that you'll find the new government being more and more oppressive. Given the deteriorating economic situation, the current coup goverment will prolly "delay" elections. The wealthy simply do NOT want to give up power, and as people become more and more upset with their decreasing living standard, that would be the inevitable result of free elections.
The other possibility is that the candidates will not offer any real difference in policies, and the voting public will get to choose between Tweedledum and Tweedledee. The coup government needs to show that people are "involved" in the new government. However, since opposition is planning a boycott, the new government has written a law making NOT voting illegal. (radio source)
Oh, BTW- Anthony, you're being a dick. And Geezer: you've always been one.
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