My least understood River's

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SERENA

Monday, February 2, 2004 8:03 PM

Don't forget to throw in "pain and suffering"!!!

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Kaylee: Are you asking me to dance?

FFYING2

Tuesday, February 3, 2004 6:41 AM

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Originally posted by Static:
I think this is one of those situations where the simplest explanation is probably the one we should go with. . .unless the commentary specifically says otherwise, I think we can take what we know of River's experience, the fact that Blue Sun has their logo on almost EVERY consumable there is, and it was, in fact, on Jayne's shirt. . .that's what tripped her trigger. . .THAT time. It's also the only time her outburst was OVERTLY violent. (not counting war stories, which wasn't so much an outburst)

We can't see "Blue Sun" on the cans, but you're right that we can assume they're made by Blue Sun. However, we can see the Blue Sun logos on her next victims: the two boxes of cracker packets. The logos are small. The first one's upside-down, and the second one is sideways.

It's also in the script:

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River has three cans unlabeled, and she's crushing a box of crackers. It has a visible, not emphasized, "Blue Sun" on it. She gets more violent and loud as she continues.

RIVER
These are the ones that take you! Little ones in the corner that you almost don't see. But they're the ones that reach in and do it. They're the ones with teeth and you have to smash them!

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For my Master's thesis in Abnormal Psych, we're supposed to do extended evaluation on someone. . .Fictional or Historical character. . .not allowed to do someone we could actually INTERVIEW. . .and I picked River. It's very challenging.

Wow, go for it!

Keep flying! (literally)

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CHEAPJOE

Wednesday, February 4, 2004 5:28 AM

I havent seen the EP in a few weeks, but as i recall, Simon and Jayne were having a little altercation just before she slashed him. I always thought of that as what started it. Maybe thats what drew her attention to the shirt. Lots to think about though.

ADEPTUS

Wednesday, February 4, 2004 6:22 AM

FireflyWiki has a good explanation of this (which has been covered at least a bit.) Forgive me if this has already been posted (I didn't have the patience to read through all the posts:

http://www.average-bear.com/wiki/index.php/BlueSun

Check it out.

No power in the 'verse can stop me.

ZEVSKA

Sunday, February 29, 2004 2:09 PM

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RIVER
These are the ones that take you! Little ones in the corner that you almost don't see. But they're the ones that reach in and do it. They're the ones with teeth and you have to smash them!

This kinda makes me think she's talking about the tiny logos. Subliminal messages contained within or something. 'The little ones in the corner that you almost don't see'.
Freaky.

Btw, hi all *waves*

HOWDYROCKERBABY1

Friday, May 14, 2004 5:23 AM

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Originally posted by WhooDahn:
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Originally posted by FlyinFree:
She is removing the Blue Sun logo from all the cans. The same reason she slashes Jayne's shirt, it has a Blue Sun logo on it.

I hadn't thought of that. Now I have a couple of questions.

Is the Blue Sun part of the Alliance or is it a massive/powerful shipping company?

Do the Blue Hands work for the Alliance or Blue Sun?

Does the Alliance do what Blue Sun tells them to do, is it another case of big business controlling the military?

The sad thing is...we'd know the answer to this question had shoing mao niao Fox not cancelled our show!

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MAL: This is my scrap of nowhere. You go on and find your own.
SAFFRON: You can't just leave me here, on this
lifeless piece of crap moon...
MAL: Sure I can.
SAFFRON: I'll die.
MAL: Well, as a courtesy, you might start
getting busy on that, cause all this chatter ain't doin' me any kindness.

RIVERGIRL

Monday, June 14, 2004 3:32 AM

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Originally posted by Talrius:
No, Jayne wore one so I don't think there's anything to worry over. Now if you find yourself wearing black suits and blue latex gloves then I'd think you should worry.

since the subject of Jayne and his Tshirts came up--is there a list of which shirt Jayne wore in each episode

TALRIUS

Monday, June 14, 2004 7:09 PM

No, sorry there is no list. It would make an interesting bit of trivia though. If you would like to create one it could be posted here as such. I suppose I could help but that means I'll have to stop watching Farscape season 2 long enough to watch Firefly again, but it might be worth it.

SHINY4004

Sunday, July 18, 2004 4:27 AM

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Originally posted by Zevska:
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RIVER
These are the ones that take you! Little ones in the corner that you almost don't see. But they're the ones that reach in and do it. They're the ones with teeth and you have to smash them!

This kinda makes me think she's talking about the tiny logos. Subliminal messages contained within or something. 'The little ones in the corner that you almost don't see'.
Freaky.

Btw, hi all *waves*

I think she IS talking about the Blue Sun Logos when she says "the ones you almost don't see" because in the commentary for Serenity they say that the Blue Sun Logos are hidden/put in different scenes and the part where she says "they're the ones that take you!" I think she's talking about the Hands of Blue guys. So I think there is a definite link between the Alliance, the Blue Sun Corp and the Hands of Blue guys. Just my thoughts!

"Oh I'm going to the special hell."-Mal

PURPLEBELLY

Sunday, July 18, 2004 6:06 AM

I'm thinking at the table
I'm reading every label

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