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My least understood River's

POSTED BY: ManiacNumberOne
UPDATED: Saturday, April 15, 2006 02:40
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Friday, August 1, 2003 1:07 AM

I just saw that episode again about ten minutes ago, before I even read this post. The Blue Sun thing is definately what came to mind after hearing that one interview on the Fox site. When she moves on from the cans, there's a bunch of tiny packages with Blue Sun logos on them. I too was trying to understand what she was saying, but I couldn't make it out. Thanks for the translation.

"I Jonathan Donnely take you Sharon Carter to be my lawful wedded bride. To hold and to have. Whether we have money or not. Whether you're feeling not well or well. Until one of us is dead." --Nathan Fillion (Two Guys and a Girl)

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Friday, August 1, 2003 2:33 AM

ok I just purchased two blue sun t-shirts Should I be worried that I am aligning myself with the Alliance?
By the way I did vote for unification

She understands, she doesn't comprehend

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Friday, August 1, 2003 3:20 AM

No, Jayne wore one so I don't think there's anything to worry over. Now if you find yourself wearing black suits and blue latex gloves then I'd think you should worry.

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Monday, August 4, 2003 9:02 PM

Oh! I got it.
I think she IS having a reaction to the Blue Sun when she slashes Jayne for this reason: His shirt is Blue Sun (as we've already said), but BLUE sun, and she doesn't like Blue Sun therefor he looks better in RED. Blue? Red? Get it? Don't say I'm stretching it. Just think about it.

"I Johnny Donnely take you Sharon Carter to be my lawful wedded bride. To hold and to have. Whether we have money or not. Whether you're feeling not well or well. Until one of us is dead." --Nathan Fillion (Two Guys and a Girl)

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Monday, August 4, 2003 9:21 PM

I always thought that she slashed Jayne because he was fixin to betray them.

Jayne’s blood was dark red, and dark red is associated with rage, anger, malice, and wrath.

If I had a psychic premonition that someone was going to send me back to torture and pain I would be angry and enraged. That would "color" how I saw them, her action was wrathful, and Jayne was malicious.

Her action brought (symbolicly) what was inside of him (malice) out, let other people see him the way she looked at him (anger, rage) and brought her wrath aupon him while showing it in the blood she let out.

Normaly I ignore color meanings but it is River we're talking aobut, she would know all this.

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Monday, August 4, 2003 9:51 PM

'Course, she could of just been playing some kind of game... coloring without the crayons, so to speak. With River, you never can tell.

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Tuesday, August 5, 2003 2:58 AM

And that, my fellow browncoats, is what makes this show so great. Who woulda thought a little thing like what's on Jaynes shirt or what kind of food River was tearing up could be such a huge thing and give people so many ideas and theories. Its the subtle things that are really huge sleeping plot twists that make this show amazing. I say once again, DAMN YOU FOX!

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Tuesday, August 5, 2003 9:35 AM

I always thought that she slashed Jayne because he was fixin to betray them.

Ya know, I got the impression that Jayne betrayed them on Ariel BECAUSE River slashed him. We are in chicken and egg territory here.

"my kind of stupid"

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Tuesday, August 5, 2003 10:41 AM

An image of the ship the blue hands guys flew in Ariel was released a while ago, which was titled the Blue Sun Ship. Kinda makes it obvious that they work for Blue Sun. (Although I know it was never said in an episode). That being the case, it's pretty easy to deduce why River would have so much animosity towards anything Blue Sun related.

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Wednesday, August 6, 2003 4:35 AM

River could not be reacting to Jayne's thought of betraying them. Because at that time only Innara was getting off the ship. Mal had just told everyone they could not get off, he didn't even want them looking out the window.

It was not until Simon came to them after Mal told him to keep River locked up and if he could not find a way to control they would have re-visit the deal they made, that Jayne even had a chance to betray them.

So it had to be the Blue Sun logo she was reacting.

Sure getting stabbed may have made the idea pop in his mind when he saw a chance. But unless River was just reacting to his general dislike of them being on board. I still say it was the t-shirt.



Keep Flying. See you in the world

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