No such thing as 'Rest In Peace'

POSTED BY: chrisisall
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OPPYH

Sunday, June 28, 2009 3:24 PM

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I mean, it never ends, does it?

Absent proof (and I mean real proof, not some mumbo-jumbo faith-based stuff) the odds are that it does just end.

Comforting, isn't it?

Well, if that's the case then it would be just like going to sleep forever. We wouldn't know at any rate, so it wouldn't be a big deal.

OPPYH

Sunday, June 28, 2009 3:31 PM

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Why so bitter?
Not a bit of it.
Just bein' my old provocative self is all.
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Heaven is a place of eternal love, peace, and happiness. No war, bickering, or hate.
How in the world would that be a bad thing?
I look to bored my many more of your sermons before you slip.
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Do you believe Chrisisall?
In Buddah? Yep.
Jesus Christ? He was definitely cool.
A dear & fluffy Lord? That's a long wait for a train don't come. Lessin' you realize that the 'Verse is all one.

So you're certainly a spiritual person.

Like it's already been said, religion is a tricky thing. Everyone thinks THEIR religion is the RIGHT religion. Never thought that way myself. If you have faith in your religion, or beliefs then that's what you will be rewarded with in the afterlife.

CHRISISALL

Sunday, June 28, 2009 3:35 PM

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Originally posted by OPPYH:

Well, if that's the case then it would be just like going to sleep forever.

Nope. That would be like having to pay no taxes- it could never happen.
The fact that we exist now means at some point we make a choice, and that suggests a cycle, with a kind of endlessness to it.
Nothing that was ever something disappears- it's the law of conservation of energy if ya wanna get technical.

The laughing Chrisisall

CRUITHNE3753

Sunday, June 28, 2009 3:43 PM

Born. Live. Die. If you're lucky, you get to pass on a few chromosomes. End of.

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CLICHED MEME IS CLICHED

KWICKO

Sunday, June 28, 2009 3:51 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
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Originally posted by OPPYH:

Well, if that's the case then it would be just like going to sleep forever.
Nope. That would be like having to pay no taxes- it could never happen.
The fact that we exist now means at some point we make a choice, and that suggests a cycle, with a kind of endlessness to it.
Nothing that was ever something disappears- it's the law of conservation of energy if ya wanna get technical.

The laughing Chrisisall

There's something to that. Energy doesn't dissipate, it just changes form, and all that jazz. I find it unlikely that your energy will retain enough coherence to be aware of itself, or its past forms, but I'm not saying it's impossible. Hell, I have a recurring dream of drowning as a child, after falling off a ferry on the way from Mackinac Island in the 1920s, so what do I know?

I'm comforted by the fact that my energy will continue to be a force in the universe long after I'm gone. In my more spiritual moments, I delude myself that I'll have some consciousness of it, but my rational mind disagrees. But even if I'm never able to park myself above a spiral galaxy for a few million years to watch it move and evolve, I can still dream about it...

Mike

Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

CHRISISALL

Sunday, June 28, 2009 3:51 PM

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Everyone thinks THEIR religion is the RIGHT religion.

I believe my religion to be right*.

*All beliefs subject to change without notice.

The laughing Chrisisall

CHRISISALL

Sunday, June 28, 2009 4:36 PM

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I find it unlikely that your energy will retain enough coherence to be aware of itself

Think of it as your "soul" being like a handful of water snatched from a stream, then poured back in. Can you ever snatch that same handful back out? Unlikely. But you may get bits of it again, enough to experience flashes of past existences.

The laughing Chrisisall

CHRISISALL

Sunday, June 28, 2009 4:55 PM

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Originally posted by Cruithne3753:
Born. Live. Die. If you're lucky, you get to pass on a few chromosomes. End of.

Predictably concrete.

You're goin' to a Chinese Hell (Chinese got a lot of Hells).

The laughing Chrisisall

RIPWASH

Sunday, June 28, 2009 5:39 PM

If I know Chris . . . and I think I have an inkling for how his mind works here and there . . . this thread was started with a desire for mental fisticuffs.

I agree with Oppyh. This is all subjective depending on your own core personal and religious beliefs. On one side of the spectrum there are folks like Kwicko and Signym who have no belief in any religion and therefore think that the end is more or less the end. Period. End of discussion. On the other end, folk like myself believe in a God of the universe, that he sent Jesus to die for our sins and if we put our trust and faith in him we will have eternal life. And as such that "rest in peace" does mean a peace that goes beyond human understanding. There's no telling what we might do in Heaven for all eternity. I'd like to think of it as going to concerts and listening to fantastic music, seeing wonderous works of art, having in-depth discussions on every subject imaginable, seeing some simply amazing sports games. It goes on and on. And the peace is that you're safe, among loved ones and people who genuinely care about each other and worshiping the One who made it all possible. We might not be so bored listening to God talk about himself and what his plans were/are/will be.

But that's just me.

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"It's okay! I'm a leaf on the wind!!!"
"What does that mean?!?!?!"

CHRISISALL

Sunday, June 28, 2009 5:49 PM

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a God of the universe, that he sent Jesus to die for our sins

I don't mean to offend (okay, so maybe I do

), but that is the most convoluted plot device ever. He creates everything, then allows sin into the mix, then creates & transports a sperm into Mary, has the son, & then makes sure he's crucified for the sins of man THAT HE SET UP IN THE FIRST PLACE!?!?!?!?!?!
In the cosmic publishing house, that submission would go right into the "reject" pile.

The laughing Chrisisall

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