Voters steer Europe to the right
POSTED BY: Geezer
UPDATED: Tuesday, August 18, 2026 16:35
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Quote:Despite that fact that you think we can't span the gulf, I think it would be interesting to explore it.
In one word you've demonstrated a gulf between us that can never be spanned. I see you now as the Alliance. Not a force for freedom, but as absolute control packaged with a pretty bow. You value no freedom for the indivudual economically and yet you'd use that very word in answer. In your world I'd not wish to comply. I'd insist upon living my life as I see fit and then your society would be forced to aggress upon me. The words Freedom and Liberty are centric to the fibre of my being. You're using them as a punchline.
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We should have strapped him into a glider, filled it nose heavy w/ explosives, and dropped his Allah lovin' ass into a large, empty field. After which, release wild boars into the area so they could make good use of his remains. Now THAT's justice.- rappy
Yeah, that's what Sheikh Issa said. Seems you both have a lot in common.- signy
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Signy, you waste your time talking with him.
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Yanno what? I honestly don't think so. BlueSun's views are heartfelt, and he's honest.
BlueSun... what's say we continue?
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We should have strapped him into a glider, filled it nose heavy w/ explosives, and dropped his Allah lovin' ass into a large, empty field. After which, release wild boars into the area so they could make good use of his remains. Now THAT's justice.- rappy
Yeah, that's what Sheikh Issa said. Seems you both have a lot in common.- signy
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Originally posted by SignyM:
Yanno what? I honestly don't think so. BlueSun's views are heartfelt, and he's honest.
They're really not, and he really isn't.
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BlueSun... what does "freedom" mean to you? What do you think can/ will happen under capitalism that can't/ won't happen under Marxism?
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We should have strapped him into a glider, filled it nose heavy w/ explosives, and dropped his Allah lovin' ass into a large, empty field. After which, release wild boars into the area so they could make good use of his remains. Now THAT's justice.- rappy
Yeah, that's what Sheikh Issa said. Seems you both have a lot in common.- signy
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Quote:With you I can agree to it. Alas tho, if the troll tries to address my conversation with you as it attempted several previous times, there will be no answer. Citizen can hang on the edge of thunderdome and jeer all he wants, but in the end he is still outside.
Originally posted by SignyM:
BlueSun... what's say we continue?
If you wish to start you can further expound upon your one word answer. Tell me why a marxist society will give me freedom.
*Edit* sorry I didn't read down 2 further posts to see your Q to me. For the moment tho I'd like you to further make the case for marxism. I've read a lot of your rebuttals to other peoples posts but not much orginal work. How can a marxist society make me free?
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Originally posted by bluesuncompanyman:
With you I can agree to it. Alas tho, if the troll tries to address my conversation with you as it attempted several previous times, there will be no answer. Citizen can hang on the edge of thunderdome and jeer all he wants, but in the end he is still outside.
You're the only troll here, as you prove with every post. All the time you continue to always act like a troll, the only people who'll even read your posts are other delusional trolls, and people like Sig who for reasons known only to themselves like to try to talk to trolls as if they were people.
On the outside? Hardly anyone takes your nonsense seriously. Probably because you've failed to back up your crazy talk, and now laughably try to blame me for your short comings. I guess it really is the only way a low life troll with nothing to add here can live with it self...
Go back to claiming you're a libertarian, while calling for less personal freedoms to stop the baddies, you pathetic authoritarian delusional nut.
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Originally posted by bluesuncompanyman:
*Edit* sorry I didn't read down 2 further posts to see your Q to me. For the moment tho I'd like you to further make the case for marxism. I've read a lot of your rebuttals to other peoples posts but not much orginal work. How can a marxist society make me free?
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BSCM can't answer the question, YET AGAIN. Why can you never answer a simple direct question? Are you just too stupid?
So much for honesty Sig, it can't even honestly answer a simple question. When has it once said or added anything honestly in this thread? If you were honest Sig, you'd have to admit it hasn't.
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BlueSun... it all depends on what one means by "freedom". Someone (from Britain, if that makes any difference) told me a long time ago that Americans have a different definition of freedom than Europeans. Americans think of freedom as "freedom to..." while europeans think of freedom as "freedom from...". Although that comment didn't make any sense to me, it stuck with me for more than 25 years, and the more I talk to Americans and Europeans the more it makes sense.
It also depends on what you mean by Marxism. Most people think that Stalinist Russia exemplifies Marxism. I've never read Marx but I know people who have, and they tell me (quite often!) that Marx never really fleshed out what the future would bring. His major work, after all, was about capitalism (Das Kapital) not communism.
So I would say that "marxism" brings you freedom from corporate exploitation. Ideally, it would also mean the whithering away of the state (the state being an oppressing arm in favor of the monied interests)- although I'm not sure that would happen as humans will STILL need to resolve conflicts and decide on what is fair/ unfair in the future. So let's say that Marxism would bring a state which fairly represents the interests of its citizens.
There.
Did I answer your question?
Now.
Will you answer mine?
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We should have strapped him into a glider, filled it nose heavy w/ explosives, and dropped his Allah lovin' ass into a large, empty field. After which, release wild boars into the area so they could make good use of his remains. Now THAT's justice.- rappy
Yeah, that's what Sheikh Issa said. Seems you both have a lot in common.- signy
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Quote:I try to talk to everyone as a person. Sometimes I fail. But if I find the conversation unproductive, I simply don't talk to them at all.
and people like Sig who for reasons known only to themselves like to try to talk to trolls as if they were people
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We should have strapped him into a glider, filled it nose heavy w/ explosives, and dropped his Allah lovin' ass into a large, empty field. After which, release wild boars into the area so they could make good use of his remains. Now THAT's justice.- rappy
Yeah, that's what Sheikh Issa said. Seems you both have a lot in common.- signy
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