Well, it seems this Administration is driving the Rightwingnuts out of the woodwork.

POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 16:55
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CHRISISALL

Monday, June 15, 2009 2:19 PM

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2132756/posts

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Republican Congressman Paul Brown denounced Mr Obama as a Marxist, and compared his plans for a national service corps - to help out in natural disasters - to the formation of the Nazi brownshirts.

So, when Bush was doing stupid things, he was doing it for the good of America, and now that Obama gets HIS chance to goof up, it's Nazi time.
Ooooo-kaaaaaay.

The REAL Conservatives of this country are gonna hafta step up & denounce this a*sholery, and take back their party from these idiots.
Otherwise this kind of nonsense will fan the flames of the discontent in the minds of the Arian nutjobs out there, and we'll have another assassination on our hands, as WELL as a suck economy.
Is that what the NeoCons want at this point? Are they aiming us at an iceberg hoping to salvage for themselves control of the lifeboats?

Whaddya think?

The laughing Chrisisall

SERGEANTX

Monday, June 15, 2009 2:30 PM

They're just making themselves look ridiculous. Which kinda sucks because we need some legitimate opposition in Washington.

It's like neither party knows how to be a worthwhile opposition anymore. The Democrats sucked at it while the Bushies were in town, and now the Republicans spend more time screeching nonsense than engaging in real critique.

Our news media don't help, given than they provide the filter that makes such hyperbole tempting, but the party itself just seems desperate.

SergeantX

"It's a cold and it's a broken hallelujah"

KWICKO

Monday, June 15, 2009 3:39 PM

Sarge, BSCM, and anyone else out there with Libertarian leanings, I've said it before, I'll say it again:

TAKE THE REPUBLICAN PARTY FROM WITHIN!

The latest Gallup poll asks registered Republicans who they think is leading their party today. The top finisher, by more than a 3-to-1 margin with 52%? "Nobody". Second was Rush Limbaugh, with 16%, tied with Mitt. Sarah Palin got 4. Not four percent; FOUR VOTES. Newt got less than 2%.

If ever there was a time when the party is ripe for a takeover and reshaping from within, this is that time. It CAN be a Libertarian stronghold, a bastion of sensible governence, but it's up to you to make it happen.

Of course, at the same time, it's also a prime time for a legitimate third party to come to the fore. After all, the Republicans and the Democrats weren't always the only games in town, and both parties have been ousted, taken over, remade in new images, and completely changed. Hell, even within the lifetimes of many of us!

So you can fix the party by making it your own. Hell, put up a decent candidate, and *I'LL* vote Republican!

Mike

Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

CHRISISALL

Monday, June 15, 2009 3:47 PM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Hell, put up a decent candidate, and *I'LL* vote Republican!

Me too. Competition is good for all.

The laughing Chrisisall

RIPWASH

Monday, June 15, 2009 5:06 PM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Hell, put up a decent candidate, and *I'LL* vote Republican!

**Stares blankly at his computer screen**

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"It's okay! I'm a leaf on the wind!!!"
"What does that mean?!?!?!"

CHRISISALL

Monday, June 15, 2009 5:16 PM

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Originally posted by RIPWash:

**Stares blankly at his computer screen**

Wake up, Neo.

The laughing Chrisisall

RIPWASH

Monday, June 15, 2009 5:17 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
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Originally posted by RIPWash:

**Stares blankly at his computer screen**

Wake up, Neo.

The laughing Chrisisall

Only if there's a white rabbit to follow. I'm bored to death at work today.

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"It's okay! I'm a leaf on the wind!!!"
"What does that mean?!?!?!"

BLUESUNCOMPANYMAN

Monday, June 15, 2009 5:23 PM

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Originally posted by RIPWash:
Only if there's a white rabbit to follow. I'm bored to death at work today.

I wish I was bored today. It's so freakin busy here I can hardly type these lines.

CHRISISALL

Monday, June 15, 2009 5:25 PM

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Originally posted by bluesuncompanyman:
I wish I was bored today. It's so freakin busy here I can hardly type these lines.

Look at it as job security.

The laughing Chrisisall

SERGEANTX

Monday, June 15, 2009 5:31 PM

http://lesswrong.com/lw/mg/the_twoparty_swindle/

The Two-Party Swindle

Eliezer_Yudkowsky

The Robbers Cave Experiment had as its subject 22 twelve-year-old boys, selected from 22 different schools in Oklahoma City, all doing well in school, all from stable middle-class Protestant families. In short, the boys were as similar to each other as the experimenters could arrange, though none started out knowing any of the others. The experiment, conducted in the aftermath of WWII, was meant to investigate conflicts between groups. How would the scientists spark an intergroup conflict to investigate? Well, the first step was to divide the 22 boys into two groups of 11 campers -

- and that was quite sufficient. There was hostility almost from the moment each group became aware of the other group's existence. Though they had not needed any name for themselves before, they named themselves the Eagles and the Rattlers. After the researchers (disguised as camp counselors) instigated contests for prizes, rivalry reached a fever pitch and all traces of good sportsmanship disintegrated. The Eagles stole the Rattlers' flag and burned it; the Rattlers raided the Eagles' cabin and stole the blue jeans of the group leader and painted it orange and carried it as a flag the next day.

Each group developed a stereotype of itself and a contrasting stereotype of the opposing group (though the boys had been initially selected to be as similar as possible). The Rattlers swore heavily and regarded themselves as rough-and-tough. The Eagles swore off swearing, and developed an image of themselves as proper-and-moral.

Consider, in this light, the episode of the Blues and the Greens in the days of Rome. Since the time of the ancient Romans, and continuing into the era of Byzantium and the Roman Empire, the Roman populace had been divided into the warring Blue and Green factions. Blues murdered Greens and Greens murdered Blues, despite all attempts at policing. They died in single combats, in ambushes, in group battles, in riots.

From Procopius, History of the Wars, I:

In every city the population has been divided for a long time past into the Blue and the Green factions [...] And they fight against their opponents knowing not for what end they imperil themselves [...] So there grows up in them against their fellow men a hostility which has no cause, and at no time does it cease or disappear, for it gives place neither to the ties of marriage nor of relationship nor of friendship, and the case is the same even though those who differ with respect to these colours be brothers or any other kin.

Edward Gibbon, The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire:

The support of a faction became necessary to every candidate for civil or ecclesiastical honors.

Who were the Blues and the Greens?

They were sports fans - the partisans of the blue and green chariot-racing teams.

It's less surprising if you think of the Robbers Cave experiment. Favorite-Team is us; Rival-Team is them. Nothing more is ever necessary to produce fanatic enthusiasms for Us and great hatreds of Them. People pursue their sports allegiances with all the desperate energy of two hunter-gatherer bands lined up for battle - cheering as if their very life depended on it, because fifty thousand years ago, it did.

Evolutionary psychology produces strange echoes in time, as adaptations continue to execute long after they cease to maximize fitness. Sex with condoms. Taste buds still chasing sugar and fat. Rioting basketball fans.

And so the fans of Favorite-Football-Team all praise their favorite players to the stars, and derogate the players on the Hated-Rival-Team. We are the fans and players on the Favorite-Football-Team. They are the fans and players from Hated-Rival-Team. Those are the two opposing tribes, right?

And yet the professional football players from Favorite-Team have a lot more in common with the professional football players from Rival-Team, than either has in common with the truck driver screaming cheers at the top of his lun

KWICKO

Monday, June 15, 2009 5:52 PM

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Originally posted by RIPWash:
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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Hell, put up a decent candidate, and *I'LL* vote Republican!

**Stares blankly at his computer screen**

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"It's okay! I'm a leaf on the wind!!!"
"What does that mean?!?!?!"

Thanks, Rip - that made my day!

Mike

Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

CHRISISALL

Monday, June 15, 2009 6:00 PM

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Originally posted by SergeantX:

This is what I mean by the "two-party swindle". Once a politician gets you to identify with them, they pretty much own you.

I *really* hope AURaptor comes by and reads this entire post.
Thanks, Sarge.

The laughing Chrisisall

FREMDFIRMA

Monday, June 15, 2009 6:23 PM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Hell, put up a decent candidate, and *I'LL* vote Republican!

DYNAMO 2012!
"At least your exploitation will be competent!

GINOBIFFARONI

Monday, June 15, 2009 7:06 PM

Reminds me of a Babylon five episode,

Every couple of years the Drazi, a reptilian alien species divide in two and as a society half put on green sashes, half put on purple sashes randomly. Then they proceed to pound the crap out of the other group for a couple of weeks.

" They don't hate America, they hate Americans " Homer Simpson

Lets party like its 1939

GEEZER

Monday, June 15, 2009 7:09 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
I *really* hope AURaptor comes by and reads this entire post.

There are some folk I'd like to see read it too...Chris.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

CHRISISALL

Monday, June 15, 2009 7:51 PM

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Originally posted by Geezer:

There are some folk I'd like to see read it too...Chris.

I read it! Jeeze Geeze, you seem to think I'm nothing but a lefty Obama-worshiping Socialist or something!!
I read it & agree with every word!

Wanna fight?

The laughing Chrisisall

GEEZER

Tuesday, June 16, 2009 12:27 AM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
I read it! Jeeze Geeze, you seem to think I'm nothing but a lefty Obama-worshiping Socialist or something!!
I read it & agree with every word!

Wanna fight?

You! You! You! It's not all about you Chris. Really!

There are other habitues of RWED who could take a clue, on both sides of Democrat vs. Republican, Liberal vs. Conservative, Socialist vs. Capitalist, Ginger vs. Maryanne (Although any fool knows it's Maryanne)
.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

CHRISISALL

Tuesday, June 16, 2009 2:15 PM

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Originally posted by Geezer:

You! You! You! It's not all about you Chris. Really!

Sorry, I forgot to turn off "It's all about me" mode.

The laughing Chrisisall

MALACHITE

Tuesday, June 16, 2009 3:53 PM

Oh, definitely Maryanne! I'm sorry, was there some other conversation going on? :)

CHRISISALL

Wednesday, June 17, 2009 2:37 PM

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Oh, definitely Maryanne!

Ginger could have rocked my world.

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I'm sorry, was there some other conversation going on? :)

Not that I'm aware of...

The laughing Chrisisall

BLUESUNCOMPANYMAN

Wednesday, June 17, 2009 4:03 PM

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Originally posted by Malachite:
Oh, definitely Maryanne!

Maryanne? I always thought it was "Mary Ann".

MALACHITE

Wednesday, June 17, 2009 4:37 PM

Yes, "Mary Ann" is correct, as it turns out. I was using Geezer's spelling a few posts up, assuming that he was spelling it correctly.

But what really matters is, who is your vote for? Incidently, the actress who played Mary Ann was a former Miss Nevada...

KWICKO

Wednesday, June 17, 2009 4:43 PM

Why choose? Why not BOTH? Ginger & Mary Ann in a 3-way? Yes, please.

MALACHITE

Wednesday, June 17, 2009 4:55 PM

Well, you do have a point there... Way to put us back on track with the spirit of this thread: reconciling differences and compromise... (or at least, I think that was the spirit of the thread -- Mary Ann makes my thinking a bit fuzzy it seems...

By the way, Chris, I got a laugh out of your post. And, not to tangent even further, I still haven't seen Burn Notice yet, but it is in my blockbuster queue...