FIREFLY COMING BACK??

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SCHISM

Tuesday, June 9, 2009 9:44 PM

I was discussing this with my mum, who I converted into a FF-fan, and I asked her what she'd rather see in a theoretical new series;

A) Pick up after the movie

or

B) Ignore the movie

She voted B.
I vote A.

The deaths in the movie are the best AND worst things to happen to the franchise.

It made death real, much like life.
Nothing stays the same. The situation you are in today is not the situation you are in tomorrow.

YOu're friends in high school, your 'crew', will not be the same 'crew' you have in college. Some will be the same, but there will be new faces.

Life is transitional, and Joss seems to like to reflect that.

That's why I appreciate his writing so damn much.

**edit**

Incidentally, one or two made-for-tv movies has always been, in my opinion, the best strategy for testing the ratings waters.

WASHNWEAR

Tuesday, June 9, 2009 10:13 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by RIPWash:
It would be creepy, but I think Wash and Book should still "linger" in the form of flashbacks or delusional halucinations. Heck, I'd even go for a character that is Wash's twin simply to have Alan Tudyk still around. But this guy would have been locked away in an assylum somewhere. Oh wait, that would make it a little too similar to River, I guess. But he could have been in flight school with Wash, but he cracked under the pressure of trying to compete with his brother or something like that.

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"It's okay! I'm a leaf on the wind!!!"
"What does that mean?!?!?!"

So, in part what you're saying is that Wash's hypothetical twin brother would be more high-strung than Wash? I can see it now: "Hi, I'm Hoban, and this is my twin brother, Mopar! (stage whisper) He's the nervous one!"

Oh, sh*t - remember how Wash had the mustache in OoG? And that's the only time (that I know of, anyway) that we see him like that? What if...the guy with the 'stache at the interview in OoG was Wash, but for reasons we don't know about yet, the guy that showed up for work on Day 1 was actually the twin (who I will refer to again as Mopar...or, if you prefer, Mop). IOW (and among other things), Wash isn't dead, as he wasn't sitting in the pilot's seat when the Reavers launched the big point-ed stick at him.

Now clearly there are problems with this, not the least of which being it would that we spent a season getting to know and love Mop instead of Wash. So really, as far as wanting our beloved BDH back, we'de still be back at square 1...OK, on reflection, all of the above reads like the director's notes for the Dream Season of Dallas...but, man - I was really goin' there for a minute...

donttalkbackjustdrivethecarshutyourmouthiknowwhatyouaredontsaynothinkeepyourhandsonthewheeldontturnaroundthisisforreal

Still...what would Rorschach do?

IMNOTHERE

Tuesday, June 9, 2009 10:35 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Schism:

A) Pick up after the movie

That would be the best option if they want to pick up new viewers: otherwise the crucial first few episodes would have to be an info-dump re-establishing the story so far.

The BDM provides a clean break in the plot - they can still bring in the backstory as and when, but you don't need it all to get started.

The dead should stay dead - this is Firefly not Heroes! Bringing in new characters and having them find out stuff is also a good plot device for re-establishing the existing characters (Say, Captain Reynolds, why did that cute girl just kick the bad guy's kidneys out through his nose?)

Plus, Summer is a growin' up: if they have her playing a teenager again (especially after all the gratuitous underwear scenes in TSCC), some fans are going to that special hell!

GODSMACKSERENITY

Tuesday, June 9, 2009 10:39 PM

Just rerun the series on TV then pick up from there IMO.

GOODWOLF

Wednesday, June 10, 2009 2:20 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by RIPWash:
It would be creepy, but I think Wash and Book should still "linger" in the form of flashbacks or delusional halucinations.

At Dragon Con, when asked about this, Tudyk said that Joss told him and Glass that on the odd chance of the series ever coming back, they would both have work. Most likely in the form of flashbacks and the like.

But it's also worth noting that as the movie changed a few things (getting rid of the HoB men, the whole dynamic between Mal and Simon,) Joss could just say the movie was a steaming pile of poo and do more of what he originally wanted to do.

SWORDNG1

Tuesday, October 25, 2011 5:37 PM

book can be brought back easly in flash back with
other charcter from his pass even a nother brother of the orber or student from is milatery pass

VERASAMUELS

Tuesday, October 25, 2011 7:42 PM

If [when?!!?] Joss ever has the chance of more 'Firefly', he'll give us great stories. I trust him :-)

Devout Keeper of Jayne's Lunchbox

M52NICKERSON

Tuesday, October 25, 2011 8:29 PM

I don't.

I'm a Firefly fan not a Joss Whedon fan. I think part of what made Firefly such a great show was the pressure and the demands of FOX. That pressure made him cut the fat and drop certain ideas. Inara's sex poison anyone?

Plus you have the fact that if the original crew comes back you would have to write in that passage of time. I think it is far to hard to believe that only a short time has passed when the actors have changed over the years.

I think Firefly and Serenity are near perfect little gems. I don't know if you can add to them with dulling their shine.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

ZEEK

Tuesday, October 25, 2011 9:09 PM

Epic 2 year thread bump.

TWO

Tuesday, October 25, 2011 9:19 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by m52nickerson:
Plus you have the fact that if the original crew comes back you would have to write in that passage of time. I think it is far to hard to believe that only a short time has passed when the actors have changed over the years.

I think Firefly and Serenity are near perfect little gems. I don't know if you can add to them with dulling their shine.

Firefly could return. "Hawaii Five-O" ended in 1980 and restarted in 2010 without bothering to explain how Steve McGarrett and Danno can look so young after all those years. When Firefly returns in 2032, Jewel Staite will be only 50; she can still play Kaylee because she doesn't need to be a kid to be a mechanic. On the other hand, Jayne might need to dye his beard.

Kaylee at Fifty http://jimonouveau.deviantart.com/art/Kaylee-252803385

The Joss Whedon script for "Serenity," where Wash lives, is
Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/two

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