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POSTED BY: whozit
UPDATED: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 14:44
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Geeze, my concern is we got a long history of doin exactly that, and payin the price - which I hope to hell we don't in this case, and got my fingers crossed in hopes we have FINALLY learned our lesson about that stupid shit...
But I have little faith in a Government that's made that mistake over and over, even when the consequences were bloody obvious from the beginning, so I ain't holdin my breath about it neither.
But... so far, so good.
-Frem
It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:
Maybe your "questions" were just too ludicrous to be taken seriously, 6ix.
Deportation is to abortion as fish is to bicycle.
Mike
Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
"You're a idiot." -AuRaptor, RWED, May 27, 2009.
Explain yourself.
Regardless of what you think about that analogy, illegals should be deported and the borders should be locked up anyhow. We waste billions, and soon to be trillions fighting wars abroad and enforcing our unconstitutional imperialism on the rest of the world, and yet we practically let anyone who wants to come here do so whether it's legal or not.
Rethugs and Demons do this. All they care about is their personal careers, and not the well being of the American people."A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." http://www.myspace.com/6ixstringjack
Explain yourself, yourself.
(just funnin' ya)I agree that we need to secure our borders, or at least do a much better job of TRYING to do so. It won't be effective, but at least someone can say they tried, and cover their ass that way. There are so damn many places where you can just walk across our borders (southern OR northern) without so much as a how-do-you-do from anyone around, because there ISN'T anyone around. How do you "secure" something like that? More goons on the borders? More cameras, more electronic surveillance, more Predator drones? Somehow, I don't think you'd be down with either the costs or implications implicit in such actions. Maybe I'm wrong; I *thought* you leaned libertarian/right, but I could be wrong.
'Course, if I were looking to smuggle something truly nasty into this country, I sure as hell wouldn't try to bring it in over the borders to the north and south. Why would I, when any port in this country will not only receive it for me, but also arrange transportation to get it to my door? And it's not as if anyone in Customs is going to find it - after all, around 99% of shipping containers sent in are never inspected.
I'm in the shipping biz, and once you get listed as a "known shipper" on a certain route, it becomes even LESS likely that your stuff is going to be opened or inspected. You'd be stunned at how easy it could be. And if I had that kind of bent, I could likely be a very rich man by importing certain, ahem, unmentionables... I have no interest in doing that, obviously, or you can bet your life I wouldn't be posting about it anywhere online! I do my job, I follow the law and the rules, but if I can see the weaknesses, surely someone else can as well. Hopefully they're on our side, but I'd bet not all of them are.
Mike
ETA: CURSE YOUR PIC LINK IN YOUR SIG!!
Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
"You're a idiot." -AuRaptor, RWED, May 27, 2009.
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We could start by being serious about deporting people AND holding their respective governments accountable for allowing and/or promoting it. Make it their problem. I promise you, you're not going to find any other country in the world that not only doesn't remove illegals, but allows them to protest on our streets for rights and even goes so far to spend taxpayer dollars to supply the cops to keep Citizens from retaliating.
The fact is, our Government says they are here illegally out of one face, yet seemingly does everything in it's power to promote illegal immigration here out of the other face. This goes for Rethugs as much as it does Demons.
If it were me, I'd deport illegals that crossed from the Southern boarder and relocate them in Brazil or maybe even further south.... say Antarctica. Let them live with the Penguins for a while and they'll miss their Homeland so bad when they get off that rock that they'd never want to leave it again.
Even if they tried to come in again, at least it would be a good while until they got back and we had to do send them to the South Pole the second time.
EDIT: It's called putting fear of the consequences of their actions in their minds. Our Government does it to every one of us law abiding citizens everyday. Unfortunately, they overstep those boundaries and continually push the envelope of what is legal action against citizens everyday. Having a seemingly infinite fiat currency under the new Regime doesn't hurt their ability to really bring the pain since among all the jobs being lost today you don't hear about any cops losing their jobs (and if you do it's just PR bullshit since police force numbers have been doing nothing but rising overall since the bailout funds have come pouring in to the bankrupt states).
I'm not even saying that a limited amount of that (putting fear of consequences of personal actions) is a bad thing, even to citizens, because I don't believe that Chaos is a good alternative to totalitarian control. This is why I'm not a flat out Anarchist, because aside from having somebody there to pick up my trash, I do enjoy the fact that I don't feel the need to sleep with my gun under my pillow at night... yet anyways.
They laugh at us now though....
(I tried to find a video of where Carlos Mencia says something along the lines of the "beaners" who have been just waiting at the border for us to turn our heads and after 9/11 they said "HEY BEANERS!!!! COME ON OVER!!!!" afterwards. I'm paraphrasing here, but that's exactly how they feel now since there is no real repercussions to trying to illegally come here).
In this video too, towards the end, he makes a damn good point as well. Mexicans don't want that border closed, so it is in their best interests to keep the terrorists from coming into America from the south.
http://comedians.comedycentral.com/carlos-mencia/videos/carlos-mencia-
--mexican-border
"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned."
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So, circling back to the North Korea angle, 6ix, what do you suppose would happen if a couple of North Korean "journalists" just HAPPENED to wander across the U.S. border poking around, and then claimed that they had only gotten lost and wandered off their intended path, but were definitely NOT spied?
How do you think they'd be treated by us?
I'm sure Frem has already thought about this, but has anyone ever noticed how frequently our "journalists" seem to "inadvertently" find themselves in hot water in places where they aren't supposed to be? It's supposed to be sacrosanct that the CIA and NSA don't use the cover of journalists to send covert-ops people into hostile territory or hot zones. Or so we're told. It seems to me, though, that that is EXACTLY what they're doing, time and again, and they act like nobody's supposed to know about it. Seems rather sophomoric and more than just a bit amateurish to me...
Mike
Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
"You're a idiot." -AuRaptor, RWED, May 27, 2009.
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Originally posted by Kwicko:
So, circling back to the North Korea angle, 6ix, what do you suppose would happen if a couple of North Korean "journalists" just HAPPENED to wander across the U.S. border poking around, and then claimed that they had only gotten lost and wandered off their intended path, but were definitely NOT spied?
How do you think they'd be treated by us?
Given what happens to most everyone else who 'wanders' across our borders, they'd probably get free health care, a drivers license, and their kids put in school.
"Keep the Shiny side up"
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Mikey, that was part of MOCKINGBIRD from the very get-go, and it's not like they ever stop.
Six - I still favor slapping a W-4 in their hand and billin them for taxes as a solution, and rather than penalise the illegals directly other than that, slam the boot down on the shitheels that HIRE them, hard.
See, part of the reason they come here is knowing the glee with which american corporations will hire disposable workers they don't have to treat like people - that's a damn powerful incentive for both, and it's removal would do wonders.
-F
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like everything was perfect when GW was in power
Katrina Holocaust
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