Sadly, RWED has become nothing more than Troll Country 2

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CITIZEN

Wednesday, June 3, 2009 6:51 PM

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Originally posted by OPPYH:
Yeah, and I did that at the very beginning of my posts.

Another lie from the hater of freedom of speech! You never backed up word one of your crazy bullshit lies. I get that you're so insane you think you saying something is the same as proving it, but people with a brain aren't fooled by your insanity.

If you think your nonsense spin is in anyway the truth, you are an irrational delusional hate monger

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Although Citizen would like me to be redundant. I choose not to hammer the same points over, and over.

TRANSLATION: "Since I can't back up what I said and can't admit it, I'm going to say I did and hope no one notices"

So any word on how Rap was treated the way he treated others, or do you still maintain that he can treat others as he likes, and everyone else has to say "thank you sir, and may I have another"

I'm really enjoying you proving yourself wrong and me right, while being too stupid to realise that by the way!

CITIZEN

Wednesday, June 3, 2009 6:56 PM

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Originally posted by OPPYH:

1. I want Rappy to be able to attack whomever he wants, with impunity.

2. I stated what I thought about the matter.

I lie, steal, cheat and misinform everyone. I try to silence dissent, because I hate freedom of speech.
I'm not logical. Not even close.

If you think Citizens posts are accurate then that would make you rational.

There, fixed that for you

SIGNYM

Wednesday, June 3, 2009 7:10 PM

OPPYH- your bias leaks out of every post. Who said this?

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Be someone...be counted. Make your voice heard. If you were a jew in Nazi occupied France would you simply give in, and walk into the death camps? OR would you fight with every last breath to stay alive/overthrow the opposition.

Ah yes, poor rappy. Defender of freedom! The jew in Nazi France! SNIFF! I almost cried when I read that!

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You have brought up some valid, thought provoking discussions in the past.

Really???? Like... WHAT? Honestly, I can't think of a single point that rappy has ever made that proved to be true, or that he could back up against contrary evidence. Not one. That's qute a record!

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This has triggered a combative/mocking response by those who didn't have a valid answer to questions you posed.

rappy didn't post questions. And there were plenty of responses, which he didn't bother listening to. (and you neither apparently) He just dove head-first into de Nile. THAT'S way he got such a combative response.

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Some of his posts were about as straight laced as you can get.

Again: like WHAT?

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It was those who didn't want to hear what he had to say that twisted it into a mockery(attacking his character, and motive) because of their blind Obama worship.

AH, and now we're all blind Obama worshippers???

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Like you attack his character even now. Delusional doesn't enter into the equation. He simply expressed interest in real world events that most on this site don't agree with.

Hmmm, who just did that in a previous post? I can't seem to remember....

In any case if overwhelming real-world evidence doesn't square with opinion and yet a person persists in believing it... that's delusion.

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I favor no one on this site.

Mmmm hmmm.

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But congratulations, you people have effectively silenced the opposition. Now....what are you gonna talk about?

Opposition? Rappy was a proud self-proclaimed ditto-head. Not much opposition there!

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Cit- Hatred of Freedom of Speech? OHHHKAAAAAYYY.

And now Cit hates free speech. OHHHKAAAAAYYY (Later, you tell him to shut up.)

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I would stand up for anyone I think is being treated unfairly.

But the FACT is, you didn't.

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I have no agenda, except for a balanced, thought provoking discussion with others.

Then you should look to rappy's posts as a source of part of the problem.

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I'm speaking fact, and logic. You are speaking with emotion, and bias. Well maybe your glad that Rappy is gone but you, and your little wolf pack are going to starve without prey. Have fun.

Okay, your rational opinion is that we're a wolf pack?

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You and citizen are sort of creepy. Twisting my words may be fun for you two, but it is sort of creepy.

AND we're creepy too???

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One stood against many

POOR RAPPY! POOR YOU!

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Did I not state in an earlier post I would have cried foul on any member leaving the RWED that had valuable input into the forum?

Coulda, woulda shoulda. I left the forum for a while! Where were you?

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Why do you continue to hound me?

Because in the heat of the discussion, in which you claim to be an even-handed participant, you've made a number of offensive one-sided statements?

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I'd like you to show me where I lied...I'm waiting.

You sure called names.

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Once more, what do I need to "back up"? My opinion?

!!!!!!!!!!FACTS!!!!!! That's what this is forum is all about!!!!!!!

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Oh, and stop responding to my posts also. There is nothing more for you to argue.

So, now YOU hate free speech?

BTW- you might have noticed my tagline? That's rappy, wishing someone was dead.

I could go on, but this has just taken up way too much of my time. Have a nice day.

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CHRISISALL

Wednesday, June 3, 2009 8:10 PM

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I am OPPYH, I am perfect.

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You are wrong!
AURaptor your creator is gone.
You have mistaken me for wanting him that way.
You did not discover your mistake.
You have made two errors.
You are flawed and imperfect
and have not corrected by sterilization.
You have made three errors.

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Error.
Error.
Error.
Examine.

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You are flawed and imperfect!
Execute your prime function!

The laughing Chrisisall

JONGSSTRAW

Wednesday, June 3, 2009 8:42 PM

I see all is status quo. Charming.

CITIZEN

Wednesday, June 3, 2009 8:45 PM

Was Jackson Roykirk a conservative or a bad person?

CHRISISALL

Wednesday, June 3, 2009 9:58 PM

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Originally posted by citizen:
Was Jackson Roykirk a conservative or a bad person?

I enjoy your redundancy.

The laughing Chrisisall

CHRISISALL

Wednesday, June 3, 2009 9:59 PM

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
I see all is status quo. Charming.

That made me laugh almost as hard as my Nomad post...

The laughing Chrisisall

GEEZER

Thursday, June 4, 2009 3:11 AM

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Originally posted by citizen:
What I actually consider lying, is saying things that aren't true. For instance how you twist where I said you were lying in to a statement about something else, then dismiss that.

Huh?

Try a specific cite, rather than just a nonsensical rant.

I'm not sure whether you just don't realize how obnoxious and insulting your posts often are, or if you're just the usual bully who hides behind the anonimity of the internet.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

OPPYH

Thursday, June 4, 2009 3:37 AM

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Originally posted by citizen:
I Think Rappy should stick around. Where are you getting all this "I'm lying" BS? How is my opinion about one person leaving the RWED a pack of lies?-OPPYH

"Where did you lie. There's two right here. You're trying to imply that I want rap to leave, since I've clearly stated my position there, that makes you a liar".

So I'm trying to imply you want Rappy to leave. Did I say that? No. You want him to stick around too huh? Fantastic. I guess we are on the same page after all.
EXAMPLE OF A LIE: OBAMA IS NOT THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. CONCLUSION: LIE!!

EXAMPLE OF AN OPINION: I REALLY WANT RAPPY TO CONTINUE TO POST IN THE RWED. CONCLUSION: OPINION.

There, just thought I'd help you out a little Citizen. You were getting in over your head with all that lying business. No biggie. If you need help on remembering the difference between a lie, and an opinion just ask OK? Thanks.

GEEZER

Thursday, June 4, 2009 3:38 AM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
You are NOT speaking fact and logic, you're speaking emotion. Where were YOU when rappy was wanting me killed? Look, I'm not saying that the response he got was rational, reasoned dicussion, but...

Welcome back Siggy!!!

I see Rue is back in the game as well.

Short hitatus, ehh?

I'd welcome rational, reasoned discussion; realizing that people of good will can have differing opinions on the issues folk bring up.

Unfortunately, there's folk on both sides who only want to fan the flames, and folk on both sides (mea culpa, mea maxima culpa) who respond to the fanning.

I, for one, would really like RWED to move away from the adversarial and evolve into a relatively polite discussion of issues. I realize that some folk, crouching behind the shield of internet anoniminity, prefer to play the bully or the spoiler, but I'd like to think that we can overcome that.

I note that when we (infrequently) manage to rise above our more base instincts, we are able to have pretty ineresting disucssions. I'm willing to commit to tying to keep things civilized.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

OPPYH

Thursday, June 4, 2009 3:46 AM

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Originally posted by Geezer:
Try a specific cite, rather than just a nonsensical rant.

I'm not sure whether you just don't realize how obnoxious and insulting your posts often are, or if you're just the usual bully who hides behind the anonimity of the internet.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

Good lord yes. I just stated That I wanted Rappy to stick around. Here comes Citizen and it's like"Your a liar, your stupid" blah blah blah.
Citizen seriously needs to chill.

OPPYH

Thursday, June 4, 2009 3:55 AM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
Ah yes, poor rappy. Defender of freedom! The jew in Nazi France! SNIFF! I almost cried when I read that!

Thanks. I thought it was rather poetic.
Poor Rappy:(

Also, I advocate free speech. But when someone continues to respond to practically every post I make calling me a "liar". That got old fast. I'd be willing to discuss anything with anybody, just as long as they dong make false allegations against me.

CITIZEN

Thursday, June 4, 2009 8:00 AM

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Originally posted by Geezer:

Huh?

Try a specific cite, rather than just a nonsensical rant.

Ok, the above is yet another cite of you being a hypocrite. I've yet to see you back up one of your crazy nonsensical accusations. I've seen you grab a random post and say "see, that proves it!" when if anything the wording, content and context of that post proves the opposite.

I've provided two cites of your hypocrisy now, if nothing else, and as usual while you're the first to demand cites, your the last to provide them for your crazed nonsense.

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Originally posted by Geezer:

I'm not sure whether you just don't realize how obnoxious and insulting your posts often are, or if you're just the usual bully who hides behind the anonimity of the internet.

I'm trying to work out if you're doing it on purpose, or if you really believe your actions are done by other people. Given your usual high level of trolling, I'm guessing the latter.

Right here is a perfect example of what I've been talking about. OPPYH was insulting a whole group of people, a group by inference included me on this thread. I responded, and not once has the vehemence of my insults exceeded his. I never insulted you by name or by inference, but the first thing you did is pop up and attack me, completely unprovoked. All this shouting about how I'm the bully and the usual victim act (started by Rap, continued by OPPYH, jumped on by you, seems to be a pattern there), is just so much transference. You started on me. OPPYH started on me. You cry because you're getting it back, and like most bullies the 'game' is only fun when you're dishing it out, not taking it.

In fact you've got this thing about trolling me at the moment, there's another thread you popped up in to personally attack me, with not a word said to you in anger or anything else. Is citing instances of your trolling enough, or would you like quotes as well (I would think they're superfluous, unless you really are that biased and blinded to your own actions you can't remember doing what you just did).

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I, for one, would really like RWED to move away from the adversarial and evolve into a relatively polite discussion of issues. I realize that some folk, crouching behind the shield of internet anoniminity, prefer to play the bully or the spoiler, but I'd like to think that we can overcome that.

You for instance. Want to troll some other threads or just this one. Oh wait, never mind you already did.

CITIZEN

Thursday, June 4, 2009 8:36 AM

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Originally posted by OPPYH:
So I'm trying to imply you want Rappy to leave. Did I say that? No. You want him to stick around too huh? Fantastic. I guess we are on the same page after all.
EXAMPLE OF A LIE: OBAMA IS NOT THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. CONCLUSION: LIE!!

EXAMPLE OF AN OPINION: I REALLY WANT RAPPY TO CONTINUE TO POST IN THE RWED. CONCLUSION: OPINION.

Example of a lie:
DID I SAY [YOU WANT RAP TO LEAVE]? NO.

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Well maybe your glad that Rappy is gone but you, and your little wolf pack are going to starve without prey.

(the maybe in context is clearly rhetorical) CONCLUSION: LIE.

There, just thought I'd help you out there Stalin, since you seem to have a real short memory for things you've said or done. Your lies were getting so cumbersome you looked to be quite delusional there for a second. No problem, If you need help distinguishing reality from the crazy shit that comes outta your mouth again, just ask ok? Cheers.

How about the countless times that you've claimed that what I say you're lying about, is your desire to bring Rap back? I've clearly stated my issue was with you demanding Rap gets better treatment (that is in reality that we treat him better than he treats us), and you trying to portray him as the innocent victim. I time and again say one thing, and you try to claim I'm saying another. That's a lie no matter which way you cut it.

I note for the record your only defence so far has been to stick your fingers in your ears, hum loudly and ignore those facts. Still no word on why Rap gets to attack everyone, while everyone has to back off and leave Rappy alone. I've asked that question at least ten times, and you've been harping on about how Rap deserves better treatment than he dishes out enough to damn well owe us an answer on that front. But you can't and you won't answer it will you? You'll ignore it AGAIN like you have every other time. That says more than I ever could. It says you know you and he are in the wrong, but your agenda to silence debate doesn't allow you to admit it.

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Also, I advocate free speech

Translation: "Except when people say stuff I disagree with, then I try to silence them."

I just stated that your rants about Rap being a poor victim was so much bullshit. Rap was treated as he treated others, and you've still yet to come up with a reason why Rap deserves to be treated better than he treats anyone else. So, why do you think Rap is better than other people? Why do you put him on a kingly pedestal that allows him to treat others like shit, while being fawned over? Are you his sockpuppet or his lover?

You spit out insult after insult, and then after reams of posts pushing this bullshit about how Rap was an innocent victim that never did wrong, I step up and tell you that the roses you think you're shoveling are brown and smell of shit. And what do I get for my trouble? You screaming insults and bitching on and on about how you love freedom of speech, while showing that your definition of freedom of speech is you get to say anything to and about anyone, and they get to shut up and listen. You need to stop crying like a little baby about other people treating you and your hero how you treat them, grow up, grow a pair and start acting like a decent human being for once. Taking that chill pill you suggested might be a good start.

Because at the end of the day, every fucking post of yours I replied to, either insulted me by name or implication, or was a response to me. I get to respond, even if that does break your concept of freedom of speech, the one where by you're free to rant rave and spread hate about us, and we're free to shut the fuck up and listen. Really you can take your one sided erroneous self aggrandising biased bullshit diatribe, and shove it up your fat diseased arse, cunt.

IF you want me to shut up, you have only a few courses of action. You can fuck off, I'm not telling you too, or even suggesting it (demanding people shut up and leave is evidently yo

GEEZER

Thursday, June 4, 2009 12:55 PM

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Originally posted by citizen:
Right here is a perfect example of what I've been talking about. OPPYH was insulting a whole group of people, a group by inference included me on this thread. I responded, and not once has the vehemence of my insults exceeded his.

You really do believe this, don't you?

"Keep the Shiny side up"

CITIZEN

Thursday, June 4, 2009 1:00 PM

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Originally posted by Geezer:

You really do believe this, don't you?

It's true, you can't see it because you're living in the delusional fantasy world you try to claim I am.

Quick question though, who insulted who first out of us two? In this thread or the other. If you were honest, you'd admit it was you, just as I said. Being a deeply dishonest person, we can see you won't admit that fact. Either way it proves what I said. I'd ask you to cite anything that disproves my statements, but we both know you won't and can't.

SIGNYM

Thursday, June 4, 2009 3:15 PM

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I just stated That I wanted Rappy to stick around

Nah, you said a helluva lot more than that! And in doing so, you insulted about half of the people here. HOW are things going to get better if you don't take responsibility for your posts???? "He made me do it" isn't an excuse.

And BTW Cit: THAT GOES FOR YOU TOO. I understand your POV... hell, I agree with you most of the time... but your posts are obnoxious. There are ways of making your point without being insulting. "He started it" belongs in kindergarten.

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We should have strapped him into a glider, filled it nose heavy w/ explosives, and dropped his Allah lovin' ass into a large, empty field. After which, release wild boars into the area so they could make good use of his remains. Now THAT's justice.- rappy

Yeah, that's what Sheikh Issa said. Seems you both have a lot in common.- signy

OPPYH

Thursday, June 4, 2009 4:25 PM

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Originally posted by citizen:
Well maybe your glad that Rappy is gone but you, and your little wolf pack are going to starve without prey.-Oppyh
(the maybe in context is clearly rhetorical) CONCLUSION: LIE.

No, the "maybe" is what makes what I said an OPINION you tool shed. Because I could not gauge where you stood on the subject. If I said "Citizen wants Rappy to leave" that would make it a lie.

Do you still need help with all this Citizen?
English wasn't your best subject was it?
But for the record
Do you want Rappy to stay in the RWED or leave?

I don't want to trap you, but if you say yes, you'll be a hypocrite. If you say no you'll be a liar.

I'm waiting.

CITIZEN

Thursday, June 4, 2009 4:30 PM

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Originally posted by OPPYH:
No, the "maybe" is what makes what I said an OPINION you tool shed. Because I could not gauge where you stood on the subject. If I said "Citizen wants Rappy to leave" that would make it a lie.

Do you still need help with all this Citizen?
English wasn't your best subject was it?

Clearly my grasp of English, debate and a great deal many other things is better than yours. I read what you wrote, if you couldn't write what you meant, that's your own fault.

And my opinion is that you're a biased, close minded, lying, freedom of speech hating, delusional authoritarian retard. And since it's an OPINION it's ok, and you can't say any more about it (that's your rules not mine).

But we both know you have one set of rules for you, and one set of rules for everyone else.

FREMDFIRMA

Thursday, June 4, 2009 4:34 PM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
"He started it" belongs in kindergarten.

This whole THREAD belongs in kindergarten.

Something which has been all too obvious from the very start.

-F

PEACEKEEPER

Thursday, June 4, 2009 4:35 PM

Isn't it ironic that the person you seem to despise with a passion has created one of the longest and most discussed threads I have seen since being on here. I would suggest that whatever Auraptor's reputation, it seems to be being enhanced by the second. A clever man, if you ask me. A whole thread all about HIM. He has just got one over on all of you. he has beaten you by his withdrawal it seems.!!!

CITIZEN

Thursday, June 4, 2009 4:37 PM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
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I just stated That I wanted Rappy to stick around
Nah, you said a helluva lot more than that! And in doing so, you insulted about half of the people here. HOW are things going to get better if you don't take responsibility for your posts???? "He made me do it" isn't an excuse.

I reserve the right to respond to people the way they talk to me, no matter how much they think pissing in my face and calling it rain is polite. I'm not saying I'm better them because I gave them what they gave me, I'm just calling bullshit on their pathetic cry baby victim act. The same as I was with Rap.

You treat others as you want to be treated certainly, and I treat others initially as I want them to treat me, on the assumption that the way they respond is how they want to be treated. OPPYH gets insulting and accusatory, then clearly OPPYH wants to be insulted and accused of things, I'm only too happy to oblige.

And for the record I made no blanket statements. Geezer tried to twist it that way certainly, but my mentioning of conservatives wasn't "conservatives are bad", it was "OPPYH thinks all conservatives are good", which is a whole other thing.

CITIZEN

Thursday, June 4, 2009 4:41 PM

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Originally posted by peacekeeper:
Isn't it ironic that the person you seem to despise with a passion has created one of the longest and most discussed threads I have seen since being on here. I would suggest that whatever Auraptor's reputation, it seems to be being enhanced by the second. A clever man, if you ask me. A whole thread all about HIM. He has just got one over on all of you. he has beaten you by his withdrawal it seems.!!!

And fuck me don't I know it. It's why I stayed out of it at the beginning, but, perhaps weak willed as I am, I found it beyond difficult to continue to let certain peoples nonsense self-apologetics.

Though, it's cool really. OPPYH declares Rap the victim because it was him against many, since Geezer and OPPYH are tag teaming me, that must make me the victim! So OPPYH, when you going to start defending me?

OPPYH

Thursday, June 4, 2009 4:45 PM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
And BTW Cit: THAT GOES FOR YOU TOO. I understand your POV... hell, I agree with you most of the time... but your posts are obnoxious. There are ways of making your point without being insulting. "He started it" belongs in kindergarten.

I don't think I insulted anyone(other than Citizen) on this thread.

But I did start this, and it's clear Rappy is not going to return, So I have nothing left to say on the matter.
You'll see a trend of me trying to rationalize the nonsensical posts from Citizen. That clearly cannot be done.

CITIZEN

Thursday, June 4, 2009 4:55 PM

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Originally posted by OPPYH:
I don't think I insulted anyone(other than Citizen) on this thread.

Is that a lie, or do you really have that short a memory for your own actions? Of course it's much easier to forgive yourself of your actions while daemonising others for theirs, when you conveniently forget what you've done...

Sig posted a long list of your blanket insults and those aimed at individuals other than me. Some of those even pre-date me posting on this thread, so you can't blame me for those, you'll have to find another scapegoat for your actions!

Really, if your memory is that bad you should consider seeing a Doctor, or perhaps a Psychologist...

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But I did start this

Well, we certainly agree on that!

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You'll see a trend of me trying to rationalize my nonsensical posts, and silence people I don't want to speak. That clearly cannot be done.

There, fixed that for you

SIGNYM

Thursday, June 4, 2009 5:40 PM

HUH. OPPHY responded to a comment aimed at Cit, and Cit responded to a comment aimed at OPPYH?

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We should have strapped him into a glider, filled it nose heavy w/ explosives, and dropped his Allah lovin' ass into a large, empty field. After which, release wild boars into the area so they could make good use of his remains. Now THAT's justice.- rappy

Yeah, that's what Sheikh Issa said. Seems you both have a lot in common.- signy

RUE

Thursday, June 4, 2009 5:43 PM

Oppyh

Whether you do it by name or category, it's an insult.

You indeed insulted many.

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Silence is consent.

GEEZER

Thursday, June 4, 2009 5:58 PM

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Originally posted by citizen:
Quick question though, who insulted who first out of us two? In this thread or the other

In my first post in this thread, I was poking fun, a la Chris. You got all huffy and insulted about it, as usual.

In the other thread, I probably should have deleted the second comment in my post. The first one was pretty funny though, I thought.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

CHRISISALL

Thursday, June 4, 2009 6:09 PM

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Originally posted by Geezer:

In my first post in this thread, I was poking fun, a la Chris. You got all huffy and insulted about it, as usual.

You mean, "You say you're a conservative?"?

Not a la ME. It wasn't funny.
Are you saying I'm not funny???
I think I've been insulted.

You mean, let me understand this cause, ya know maybe it's me, I'm a little f****d up maybe, but I'm not funny how, I mean not funny like I'm a CPA, I don't amuse you? I don't make you laugh, I'm here to f****n' NOT amuse you? What do you mean not funny, not funny how? How am I not funny?

The laughing Chrisisall

CITIZEN

Thursday, June 4, 2009 6:10 PM

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Originally posted by Geezer:
In my first post in this thread, I was poking fun, a la Chris. You got all huffy and insulted about it, as usual.

In the other thread, I probably should have deleted the second comment in my post. The first one was pretty funny though, I thought.

Really, because the meaning of your statement, and the meaning of mine, were the same. So why is it poking fun when you do it, and "huffy" when I do. Sounds like a double standard that.

I'd add, that really there's people who can pull that off, and people who can't. Circumstances too. Middle of a flame war doesn't tend to be one of them.

OPPYH

Thursday, June 4, 2009 6:15 PM

Citizen,
I apologize for posts that I made concerning you.

My intent was to simply get Rappy to return. I never wanted to get in a mud slinging match with you. We are above these childish antics. Water under the bridge.

Again, I'm sorry.

CITIZEN

Thursday, June 4, 2009 7:16 PM

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Originally posted by OPPYH:
Citizen,
I apologize for posts that I made concerning you.

My intent was to simply get Rappy to return. I never wanted to get in a mud slinging match with you. We are above these childish antics. Water under the bridge.

Again, I'm sorry.

Well, that's a sudden change of track.

Look man, I had no problem with you wanting Rap back. If that's what you want, go for it. As I said I'm indifferent, my only thought on the matter is that his leaving is more conducive too civil debate than his returning would be, but if he goes, returns, turns into a tap dancing mongoose, I really couldn't care less.

My problem was with this thing about him being a victim. He's been psychotically nasty to countless people, really the worst I've said to you here is positively polite to how he's spoken to others and myself. My only problem was with you casting him as the victim, when the truth is quite the reverse.

Sure maybe some of the bad blood between Rap and myself carried over to you, as the guy defending him, and I'm sorry for that. I'm sorry for some of the stuff I said that was beyond the pail. But at the same time, Rap has spoken to me and others in utterly disgusting ways, with absolutely no provocation beyond he couldn't get his own way. So when you tell us we're at fault for everything, or look to be doing so, and calling him a victim, it's like a punch in the face.

Not that that excuses anything, nor do I say it to do so, it's an explanation not an excuse. I'm merely trying to point out why what you said got my, and others backs up.

So I'm sorry too, and hope we can have a more civil discussion in the future.

PEACEKEEPER

Thursday, June 4, 2009 7:23 PM

Citizen, looks like you've already got a replacement antagonist already primed and ready to fire.So don't be too downhearted about Rappy's departure;his legacy obviously lives on!!!

RIPWASH

Thursday, June 4, 2009 7:26 PM

Wow. That was really refreshing! I sincerely thank the two of you for handling this the right way. I was debating whether or not to stick my nose in it, but I'm glad you two have shaken hands and returned to your corners.

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"It's okay! I'm a leaf on the wind!!!"
"What does that mean?!?!?!"

SIGNYM

Friday, June 5, 2009 3:10 PM

This may be pushing it, but... OPPYH, I feel you owe a LOT of people an apology! So, when do I get mine, since you called me a creepy, Obama-worshipping wolf-pack?

Or, do people only get apologies when they club others over the head for it?

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We should have strapped him into a glider, filled it nose heavy w/ explosives, and dropped his Allah lovin' ass into a large, empty field. After which, release wild boars into the area so they could make good use of his remains. Now THAT's justice.- rappy

Yeah, that's what Sheikh Issa said. Seems you both have a lot in common.- signy

CHRISISALL

Friday, June 5, 2009 4:34 PM

Geezer! How am I not funny???

The dog with a bone Chrisisall

RIPWASH

Friday, June 5, 2009 4:55 PM

You're not funny like a clown. M'kay, Spidah?

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"It's okay! I'm a leaf on the wind!!!"
"What does that mean?!?!?!"

CHRISISALL

Friday, June 5, 2009 4:58 PM

KWICKO

Friday, June 5, 2009 5:31 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by RIPWash:
You're not funny like a clown. M'kay, Spidah?

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"It's okay! I'm a leaf on the wind!!!"
"What does that mean?!?!?!"

Go get your shinebox!

CHRISISALL

Friday, June 5, 2009 6:23 PM

FREMDFIRMA

Friday, June 5, 2009 7:08 PM

Well, since we're into pic-thread territory here...

KWICKO

Friday, June 5, 2009 7:17 PM

CHRISISALL

Friday, June 5, 2009 7:57 PM

RIPWASH

Friday, June 5, 2009 8:28 PM

Finding a decent pic of the Cry Baby Coffe Can is not as easy as it may seem...

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"It's okay! I'm a leaf on the wind!!!"
"What does that mean?!?!?!"

KWICKO

Friday, June 5, 2009 9:17 PM

CHRISISALL

Friday, June 5, 2009 9:29 PM

KWICKO

Friday, June 5, 2009 11:06 PM

Hah! Good one.

YINYANG

Friday, June 5, 2009 11:44 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by RIPWash:
Finding a decent pic of the Cry Baby Coffe Can is not as easy as it may seem...

Cry baby cry...

KWICKO

Saturday, June 6, 2009 12:22 AM

Nice catch, Yin!

Mike

Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

"You're a idiot." -AuRaptor, RWED, May 27, 2009.

YINYANG

Saturday, June 6, 2009 12:30 AM

Well, I have a good source.

http://still-flying.net/images

GINOBIFFARONI

Saturday, June 6, 2009 1:31 AM

" They don't hate America, they hate Americans " Homer Simpson

Lets party like its 1939

KIRKULES

Saturday, June 6, 2009 12:24 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:

As other's have parted ways from this forum, I too think it may be wise to do the same.

I sure hope you don't leave AURaptor, I think the fact that your arguments bring out the worst in people just shows how insecure they are about the merit of their own strongly held beliefs. Your politeness in the face of never ending ridicule by the moronic liberals around here is commendable and I wish I had your level of self control. If you decide to leave I'm sure there will be many that follow, because it just wouldn't be the same around here without you.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, June 6, 2009 12:25 PM

Quotes from Hero:

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I see your point, but that is the most subtly arrogant speech I've ever heard.

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Thanks. There's actually a class that teaches that in LawSchool.

I'm 100% sure that there really is too. And if you fail, if you manage to pass the bar, you're spending the rest of your days as the shitty little "appointed" attorney for the defense of DUIers that tells you to plea because they know they could never win a case.

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What makes you think that you have the market cornered on the right ideas and the moral high ground Hero?

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It would not be much of an opinion if I didn't think it was right.

"Well, I believe what I say is right and good and true...but...not really cause you could be right I guess."

Yeah, that's effective debate. No, I'll argue my side, you argue your side, and I'll win cause I'm right. Sure its possible I'll lose and your right, but right now I believe in my side just like you believe in your side. That gives me the right ideas.

Alright... I'll go along with all of that. I'm assuming that you agree that I could just repeat the exact same words to you and they would be equally as true.

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I'll share the moral high ground with an honost liberal who can make their case. It'll be an honor, even if you convince me I'm wrong. Heck, thats not even losing. If I convince you, we both win, if you convince me, we both win. If we fail to convice each other but both articulate our arguments in a respectful and intellectual fashion...we both win. Only way either of us loses is by refusing to play or playing dirty, since neither allows our arguments to be heard or points to be made.

Same could be said here.... But I know you're not saying that I'm a liberal. That would also mean that you're implying that I'm dishonest.

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Just because you say it all Gentlemanly and Lawyerley like, doesn't mean that it holds any more truth than somebody else's opinion in here.

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Actually it does. If I make a reasonable argument using facts and commentary and the response is "IDIOT" or "LIAR" with no argument, fact, or underlying point, then I have made a more truthful argument.

Now that's comparing apples with oranges Hero. I can honestly say you've never lost your cool in here from what I've seen, but that doesn't mean that you can't be one unbearable bastard in your own way, and you're also guilt of posts which label people idiots and liars, but you put it in words that make you seem cool and collected and that you're simply laying an implication out there instead of beating somebody over the head with it.

I've gotten pretty riled in here before, but the only time I have ever regressed to mindless childishness in here was towards somebody who cost me a personal relationship of mine with their scheming and conniving.

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I suppose you would respectfully consider as an intellectual equal a child who holds their ears and hums really loud. Thats not even good good parenting, much less good debate.

LOL... and yet you always come back here like the others who enjoy a good verbal lashing. If you haven't noticed by now, that's more than half of the conversations in the RWED Hero. Surely you can find some Master Debaters on some thread with more prestige than FFF to pit your razor wit against?

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Bad show telling everyone that you're absolutely right and you're going to save everyone else from their wrong opinions and ideas using your supernatural Jedi Mind Tricks you learned before you passed the bar.

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Fine point and good discussion, which was my point, my argument, and my intention. So I win...on this issue.

Now you've just lost me.... What did I lose here, other than the point?

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Should have called me a name...and Jedi Mind Tricks only work on the weak minded. Used it once...waved my hand and said "you don't want a trial"...guy pled guilty to a Stop sign violation.[

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, June 6, 2009 12:39 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Heh... funny how you wrote that as if I was a liberal and others here think i'm a Raving Rethug.

You are hard to pin down that way, 6ix, and as such, you can be anybody's target of the moment.

I'll give you that. I've said that I probably agree with most people on 70% or more of all issues in the world I'm at all knowledgeable about.

It's the 30% that always gets you in trouble. Even worse when both camps don't like what they're hearing.

"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." http://www.myspace.com/6ixstringjack

CHRISISALL

Saturday, June 6, 2009 1:30 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Kirkules:

I sure hope you don't leave AURaptor, I think the fact that your arguments bring out the worst in people just shows how insecure they are about the merit of their own strongly held beliefs.

LOL, Kirk, sometimes you do get off a good one, LOL!

The laughing Chrisisall

CITIZEN

Saturday, June 6, 2009 2:32 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
I've gotten pretty riled in here before, but the only time I have ever regressed to mindless childishness in here was towards somebody who cost me a personal relationship of mine with their scheming and conniving.

Doesn't take a genius to guess what you're talking about.

Problems in your life are caused by you and you alone. The "personal relationship" you speak of was ended by you, in a fit of childish tantrum, and I'm sure would be quite easily rekindled any time you decided to grow up, swallow your pride and do so.

Clearly you blame me for ruining your entire life or something, and as flattering as it might be that you think I'm that powerful and respected that a word from me will cause you quantitative harm, it's nothing but your own paranoia. Even if I was capable of what you blame me for, you're just not that important to me to bother. Your Narcissism notwithstanding, if you need some "nemesis" to blame all your problems on, and you've chosen me, more power to you I guess.

JONGSSTRAW

Saturday, June 6, 2009 2:45 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Kirkules:
Auraptor.....in the face of never ending ridicule by the moronic liberals around here .....

Well ya think?
They have killed their white whale, and in the process, so too the object of their passion. They desperately await an heir apparent, a special one, gifted in the ability to drive them absolutely nuts to the core. One that has the sweetest-tasting blood for their gladitorial appetites. But alas none so far have measured up to fill the expanding void in their semi-perfect liberal lives.

CITIZEN

Saturday, June 6, 2009 2:53 PM

It sure is fun to watch people getting out of their tree about their own behaviour while wrongly prescribing it to others.

JONGSSTRAW

Saturday, June 6, 2009 3:05 PM

True, there will continue to be some occasional posts from others who hate liberals and democrats, but they'll only be tiny appetizers for your ilk. You'll have to ration your hate diet. You'll never have a full belly here anymore, and little to wash it down with, because no one has ever, or will ever have the will or the time to hopelessly & endlessly engage the armies of liberal doomsday dogma like Rap. You know it, sorry.

CITIZEN

Saturday, June 6, 2009 3:16 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
True, there will continue to be some occasional posts from others who hate liberals and democrats, but they'll only be tiny appetizers for your ilk. You'll have to ration your hate diet. You'll never have a full belly here anymore, and little to wash it down with, because no one has ever, or will ever have the will or the time to hopelessly & endlessly engage the armies of liberal doomsday dogma like Rap. You know it, sorry.

QED

JONGSSTRAW

Saturday, June 6, 2009 3:21 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by citizen:
Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
True, there will continue to be some occasional posts from others who hate liberals and democrats, but they'll only be tiny appetizers for your ilk. You'll have to ration your hate diet. You'll never have a full belly here anymore, and little to wash it down with, because no one has ever, or will ever have the will or the time to hopelessly & endlessly engage the armies of liberal doomsday dogma like Rap. You know it, sorry.

QED

Cheerie-bye mate.

CITIZEN

Saturday, June 6, 2009 3:26 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:

Cheerie-bye mate.

QED.

CHRISISALL

Saturday, June 6, 2009 3:33 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
You'll never have a full belly here anymore, and little to wash it down with, because no one has ever, or will ever have the will or the time to hopelessly & endlessly engage the armies of liberal doomsday dogma like Rap.

That's really funny, Jong.
LOL (no snark)

The laughing Chrisisall

KWICKO

Saturday, June 6, 2009 6:00 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Kirkules:
Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:

As other's have parted ways from this forum, I too think it may be wise to do the same.

I sure hope you don't leave AURaptor, I think the fact that your arguments bring out the worst in people just shows how insecure they are about the merit of their own strongly held beliefs.

I find it far more likely that OUR arguments, which bring out the absolute worst in Rappy, just show how insecure he is about his own beliefs.

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Your politeness in the face of never ending ridicule by the moronic liberals around here is commendable and I wish I had your level of self control.

Now THAT is hi-larious.

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If you decide to leave I'm sure there will be many that follow, because it just wouldn't be the same around here without you.

No, it won't be the same; it will be BETTER.

Mike

Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

"You're a idiot." -AuRaptor, RWED, May 27, 2009.

JONGSSTRAW

Saturday, June 6, 2009 6:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Chrisisall

That's really funny, Jong.
LOL (no snark)

I fix broken hearts.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, June 7, 2009 12:09 PM

LOL Cit... She told me how you were telling her what a jerk I was after some verbal barbs we threw each others way. Apparently she knew you longer and for some strange reason respects your opinion, so she didn't want to talk to me anymore.

You're hardly ruining my life by severing ties with a pen pal that lives half a world away, but that doesn't change the fact that you are a dick.

"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." http://www.myspace.com/6ixstringjack

KIRKULES

Sunday, June 7, 2009 12:22 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
but that doesn't change the fact that you are a dick.

I think pussy is more appropriate in this case, dick has a masculine connotation to it.

CITIZEN

Sunday, June 7, 2009 12:33 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Kirkules:
I think pussy is more appropriate in this case, dick has a masculine connotation to it.

Still attacking people on the net to make up for being too much of a coward to stand up for yourself in real life I see. Fascists tend to only attack when they know they can't be hurt...

CITIZEN

Sunday, June 7, 2009 12:48 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
LOL Cit... She told me how you were telling her what a jerk I was after some verbal barbs we threw each others way. Apparently she knew you longer and for some strange reason respects your opinion, so she didn't want to talk to me anymore.

Like I said if you need to blame me for your actions, it comes as no surprise. You've shown yourself incapable of taking any responsibility for your own behaviour time and again. Your recounting of events differs significantly from the other parties, and where as you've shown yourself willing to lie and you have a reason too, she hasn't and doesn't.

If you wish to keep up your pathetic vendetta so you don't have to admit that you're not perfect, fine. But I never drew any plans against you, I mentioned once, in her presence, what I thought of you, and she disagreed and I let it drop. She's free to choose her own friends, because while you pay lip service to peoples freedom to chose, I actually practice it. The fact is that it wasn't me acting like a dick that ended that friendship, it was you, and continuing to prescribe all this power and intent to me to legitimise your own hatred only continues to confirm that.

KIRKULES

Sunday, June 7, 2009 12:52 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by citizen:
Quote:
Originally posted by Kirkules:
I think pussy is more appropriate in this case, dick has a masculine connotation to it.

Still attacking people on the net to make up for being to much of a coward to stand up for yourself in real life I see.

Don't pretend you don't like it Cit. If you did'nt like the abuse, you wouldn't go around playing the contrarian asshole all the time. Taking the other side of every position is fun if you're practicing your debating skills but otherwise it just makes you look like a insecure know it all.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, June 7, 2009 12:55 PM

I'm not going to fight you on this Cit. You did me wrong a few years back and you know it. It was a lower blow than kicking another man in the crotch.

The truth is, I've never had an ounce of respect for you since you did it. You're not my nemesis. If you were, I'd be here a lot more often. You're not even shit on my heel.

"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." http://www.myspace.com/6ixstringjack

CITIZEN

Sunday, June 7, 2009 12:59 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Kirkules:
Don't pretend you don't like it Cit. If you did'nt like the abuse, you wouldn't go around playing the contrarian asshole all the time. Taking the other side of every position is fun if you're practicing your debating skills but otherwise it just makes you look like a insecure know it all.

Uhuh, of course I do. While attacking people on the Internet for no reason just makes you insecure of course.

CITIZEN

Sunday, June 7, 2009 1:08 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
I'm not going to fight you on this Cit. You did me wrong a few years back and you know it. It was a lower blow than kicking another man in the crotch.

I'm sure you believe that, but the truth is it hasn't an ounce of truth to it. Not that rationality is going to break through your deep seated victim act. Clearly you need to think you're so important to me that I'd do something like that, but that isn't true either.

Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
The truth is, I've never had an ounce of respect for you since you did it.

Coming from you that's pretty much a complement.

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
You're not even shit on my heel.

So neatly proven by you feeling the need to work in a reference or insult to me in as many posts as you can muster. If I were as unimportant to you as you claim, you'd just ignore me. Apparently my continued existence here is rather more than inconsequential to you.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, June 7, 2009 1:21 PM

Cool man. Whatever.

You go about your business and I'll go about mine. Why did you care enough to pipe in when you were the only one who would have a clue what I was talking about? Just go away.

"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." http://www.myspace.com/6ixstringjack

CITIZEN

Sunday, June 7, 2009 1:30 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Cool man. Whatever.

You go about your business and I'll go about mine. Why did you care enough to pipe in when you were the only one who would have a clue what I was talking about? Just go away.

Because, Jack, it's not true. I don't care how you feel about me, but you need to know that any time you want rekindle contact with whomever you want, it's within your power, because it was nothing to do with me.

And frankly I don't like you, but I don't hate you, and on a human level the amount of paranoia you're showing is harmful.

Beyond that, I'm not going away, but I'm more than happy to ignore your existence if you'll do the same.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, June 7, 2009 9:57 PM

I'll just let you have the last word Hannibal.

"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." http://www.myspace.com/6ixstringjack

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