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Originally posted by Geezer:Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:
One day we're railing AGAINST the UN, calling for it to be abolished - or at the very least, for the U.S. to get out of it - and the next we're saying that every other nation (the operative word being "other") should do as the UN says.
As Tonto once said, "What you mean WE, white man?"
"Keep the Shiny side up"
"We" as in "us". As in "U.S."
Mike
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We threatened them, blatantly and with malice aforethought, and very publicly.
They pull out a really huge gun and show us it's loaded.
And then we have the NERVE to whine ?
Please.
-F
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Quote:I’ve answer this question many times. It should be obvious at this point that I consider North Koreas nuclear program to be a serious threat.
Originally posted by Kwicko:
In other words, you won't answer the question either.
Quote:The coalition was organization by the US and UK. It’s very obvious that a majority support existed for the UN to deal with Iraq, but due to a handful of nations acting to sustain oil contracts with the regime in Iraq, it didn’t happen. This also has been explained in great detail.
Originally posted by Kwicko:
Oh, and I thought we were all about that whole "coalition of the willing" bullshit. Are you now saying that that was a sham? You state that two nations "independently" did it, because no one else cared. Have you forgotten Poland? You forgot Poland!
Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.
Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.
-- Cicero
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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
We threatened them, blatantly and with malice aforethought, and very publicly.
They pull out a really huge gun and show us it's loaded.
And then we have the NERVE to whine ?
Please.
-F
Total Agreement
Mind you I am more comfortable with the idea of Iran having nukes than North Korea...
But hey, that day will come too
" They don't hate America, they hate Americans " Homer Simpson
Lets party like its 1939
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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
We threatened them, blatantly and with malice aforethought, and very publicly.
They pull out a really huge gun and show us it's loaded.
And then we have the NERVE to whine ?
Please.
-F
And of course they've never made an aggressive move, aside from invading South Korea, kidnapping its citizens, sending sabotage teams across and around the border on a regular basis, preventing families from knowing if their relatives are dead or alive, etc.
North Korea is the crazy neighbor who gets drunk, goes out in the back yard, and starts firing his really huge gun wildly. Kim Jung Il and his pappy have run their economy so far into the ground that their people are starving in droves, even with massive U.S. and South Korean aid, and the government there has nothing to lose by using a nuke for no reason at all.
Do you let the other guy take the first shot?
"Keep the Shiny side up"
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Originally posted by Geezer:
North Korea is the crazy neighbor who gets drunk, goes out in the back yard, and starts firing his really huge gun wildly. Kim Jung Il and his pappy have run their economy so far into the ground that their people are starving in droves, even with massive U.S. and South Korean aid, and the government there has nothing to lose by using a nuke for no reason at all.
Of course, there are those who'd argue that the U.S.A. is the crazy neighbor who gets drunk, goes out in the back yard, and start firing his really huge gun wildly. George W. Bush and his pappy have run their economy so far into the ground that their people are losing their jobs and homes in droves, even with massive banking bailouts, and the government there has nothing to lose by using a nuke for no reason at all.
I'm just sayin'.
Mike
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Originally posted by Geezer:
And of course they've never made an aggressive move, aside from invading South Korea, kidnapping its citizens, sending sabotage teams across and around the border on a regular basis, preventing families from knowing if their relatives are dead or alive, etc.
"Keep the Shiny side up"
Sounds like American foreign policy,
or do you think the same of some of your country's actions in Central and South America, in particular
America only seems to think international laws and sanctions should apply against others,
Perhaps you would have more respect, if you didn't ignore the same laws, and the judgments against you when you break them. Until that day, you are also a rouge nation, and should be treated as such.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicaragua_v._United_States
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Until that day, you are also a rouge nation, and should be treated as such.
Well, other than maybe San Francisco, I doubt we'd qualify as a rouge nation, or maybe you were thinking France ?
Rogue nation though, that one I'll give ya.
And if you wanna go stupid analogies, in this case America is the nutty militia guy with the HUGE arsenal in his basement whining about some guy way down the block daring to own a .38SPL revolver.
As far as M-A-D and other idiocy goes, the only country with enough maturity and balls to cast aside it's nuclear arsenal and be done with the whole bone brained idiocy... is Canada.
Of course, being a Michigander, I am very well acquainted with the fact that as a people and country, they're both more mature and well behaved than we are.
But less inventive - us americans, we can BUILD some shit, when we try, and we're the best farmers on the planet - maybe if we spent those talents on life instead of death, building solutions instead of weapons, we'd undercut many of the true causes underneath all this violence.
But of course, that requires a social, mental and emotional maturity we neither have, nor are likely to develop with a society wholly built around it's prevention.
At it's end, this is STILL "have bigger club, take your stuff!" - just on a national, rather than personal scale, and we can do better, we OUGHT to do better.
But try telling the cave trolls this...
-Frem
It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it
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But less inventive - us americans, we can BUILD some shit, when we try, and we're the best farmers on the planet - maybe if we spent those talents on life instead of death, building solutions instead of weapons, we'd undercut many of the true causes underneath all this violence.
But of course, that requires a social, mental and emotional maturity we neither have, nor are likely to develop with a society wholly built around it's prevention.
At it's end, this is STILL "have bigger club, take your stuff!" - just on a national, rather than personal scale, and we can do better, we OUGHT to do better.
And the sad fact is, no matter what we invent, no matter how far our technology takes us, there's always that wanker at the Pentagon whose very first question will be, "How can we weaponize this?"
Mike
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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:Quote:
Until that day, you are also a rouge nation, and should be treated as such.
Well, other than maybe San Francisco, I doubt we'd qualify as a rouge nation, or maybe you were thinking France ?
Rogue nation though, that one I'll give ya.
And if you wanna go stupid analogies, in this case America is the nutty militia guy with the HUGE arsenal in his basement whining about some guy way down the block daring to own a .38SPL revolver.
As far as M-A-D and other idiocy goes, the only country with enough maturity and balls to cast aside it's nuclear arsenal and be done with the whole bone brained idiocy... is Canada.
Of course, being a Michigander, I am very well acquainted with the fact that as a people and country, they're both more mature and well behaved than we are.
But less inventive - us americans, we can BUILD some shit, when we try, and we're the best farmers on the planet - maybe if we spent those talents on life instead of death, building solutions instead of weapons, we'd undercut many of the true causes underneath all this violence.
But of course, that requires a social, mental and emotional maturity we neither have, nor are likely to develop with a society wholly built around it's prevention.
At it's end, this is STILL "have bigger club, take your stuff!" - just on a national, rather than personal scale, and we can do better, we OUGHT to do better.
But try telling the cave trolls this...
-Frem
It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it
lol got me there....
but funny enough I won't go back to correct it.
" They don't hate America, they hate Americans " Homer Simpson
Lets party like its 1939
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