Star Trek Better Second Time
POSTED BY: Jongsstraw
UPDATED: Sunday, May 24, 2009 21:47
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I saw it again last night, sans children, and I found it much more enjoyable. Knowing a little about what is going on helps you appreciate everything much more. My opinion of this flick has gone from good to excellent. In many regards it is an epic, possibly the best of all the Trek films.
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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
I saw it again last night, sans children, and I found it much more enjoyable. Knowing a little about what is going on helps you appreciate everything much more. My opinion of this flick has gone from good to excellent. In many regards it is an epic, possibly the best of all the Trek films.
I'm going to see it again. I liked it, but it will never be the best Trek movie.
The Voyage Home beats it.
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Funny, just the other day I listed Voyage Home as the best Trek movie. Having seen the new movie again, I have to say that it's much better than I thought after the first viewing. There are BIG things, epic things happening in this movie....the Kirk origin and legacy, the Vulcan holocaust, etc....but most importantly the rise and development of the crew, and the respect they have for Kirk, and how he earned it.
Someone the other day put this movie at the top of their Trek movie list. I have to agree now. No other Trek movie is as large in scope, or as much fun, and full of creative imaginativeness as this one was for me.
See it again, and post your feelings about it. I'll be curious to see if you change your feelings.
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I know this is going to go a little off topic, but am I the only one who thinks that The Voyage Home isn't that good? It's one of my least favorite Treks. I think the plot is ridiculous, their method for time travel odd (mainly the fact that the old warbird they were in was a POS spaceship), and all in all it just doesn't sit right with me. Granted, I've only seen it once or twice and I think I was about 15 at the time, but I just wasn't too impressed.
As for the new Star Trek, I saw it twice also and thought it was awesome both times. They really cranked up the stakes in this one. I just felt more invested into what was going on in the story.
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Quote:I can see why you'd say that- TVH is just SO much fun- but on my list only TMP beats it.
Originally posted by OPPYH:
The Voyage Home beats it.
The laughing Chrisisall
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Originally posted by Dewrastler:
I know this is going to go a little off topic, but am I the only one who thinks that The Voyage Home isn't that good? It's one of my least favorite Treks. I think the plot is ridiculous, their method for time travel odd (mainly the fact that the old warbird they were in was a POS spaceship), and all in all it just doesn't sit right with me. Granted, I've only seen it once or twice and I think I was about 15 at the time, but I just wasn't too impressed.
As for the new Star Trek, I saw it twice also and thought it was awesome both times. They really cranked up the stakes in this one. I just felt more invested into what was going on in the story.
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You're certainly not the "only" one who didn't like Voyage Home. It's not generally regarded as one of the best. But for me, I liked it the most of the original movies.
The "problems" you mention are all dealt with in the movie....the old Romulan ship, the method of time travel, etc are all addressed by the crew. What I like about the film are the crew's interaction with 20th century people...some very funny stuff. I like the whale biologist gal a lot. I like the scenes with her and Kirk. I like the whole theme of the movie, which relates to animal extinction. It's also the movie where we get our Spock back, after his Katra was put back in at the end of Search For Spock. There's a lot of good 'ole McCoy - Spock discussions of logic and things. After this movie Spock relied less on logic, and started to appreciate his human emotions in life's equations....as he explained to his protege Valeris in Undiscovered Country. Give it another try sometime.
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Quote:Yeah, what Jong said.
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
the crew's interaction with 20th century people...some very funny stuff. I like the whale biologist gal a lot. I like the scenes with her and Kirk. I like the whole theme of the movie, which relates to animal extinction. It's also the movie where we get our Spock back, after his Katra was put back in at the end of Search For Spock. There's a lot of good 'ole McCoy - Spock discussions of logic and things. After this movie Spock relied less on logic, and started to appreciate his human emotions in life's equations....as he explained to his protege Valeris in Undiscovered Country. Give it another try sometime.
The laughing Chrisisall
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I will acknowledge Star Trek as a good film but I will ask this:
Can anyone comment on the logic of promoting Kirk from Cadet to Captain? He bypassed all the ranks: Ensign, Lt Jr grade, Lt, Lt cmder, & Cmder to sit in the main seat.
When I watched that happen I thought of it as nothing more than elementry school storytelling.
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Quote:No, you're not the only one.
Originally posted by Dewrastler:
I know this is going to go a little off topic, but am I the only one who thinks that The Voyage Home isn't that good?
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Quote:Logic is in question, where field promotions are concerned.
Originally posted by bluesuncompanyman:
Can anyone comment on the logic of promoting Kirk from Cadet to Captain? He bypassed all the ranks: Ensign, Lt Jr grade, Lt, Lt cmder, & Cmder to sit in the main seat.
The laughing Chrisisall
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