Dollhouse Deathwatch

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PIRATENEWS

Wednesday, May 13, 2009 10:03 PM

Titan AE was awesome. Disney meets Heavy Metal.

Dollhouse humor was few and far between. At least one epp had none. It's like somebody wanted to copy 24 and COPS type shows -- zero humor 24/7.

BTVS formula was lots of campy jokes to get viewers addicted, then slowly reduce dosage, like a live frog boiling in a pot. Even Angel assassinated a Satanic Senator Hillary Clinton in its final epp, while being somewhat funny, like flipping a bird at Fox. Sir Rupert dined with Hillary every week for years, prepping her for running for prez. Firefly had plenty of humor, with a much higher dose of truth.

Victor: "Co-ed showers?!"
Mellie: "No big deal."
-Dollhouse, Needs

DMI

Thursday, May 14, 2009 2:32 AM

Not seeing a lot of positivity on this thread so I thought I'd chime in that I liked Dollhouse. Was it the best series ever? No. But it has already come a long way since the first eps which really did suck. I was very, very happy with the last few episodes and loved Alan's characters (all 48 of them). I'll be sad to see it go if the "realists" are right and very, very happy if FOX decides to give it a second chance.

Whether I buy the DVD depends on finances, but if I can afford it, I'll get it to show some friends and family like I did with Firefly because at the end it was worth watching.
-e

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PIRATENEWS

Friday, May 15, 2009 10:28 AM

And the winner will be announced on Monday...
www.associatedcontent.com/article/1740866/fox_to_announce_fate_of_doll
house_on.html?cat=2

GWEK

Friday, May 15, 2009 1:43 PM

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Originally posted by Bytemite:
He might work on other things, but only after a prerequisite mourning period.

You work hard on something, it doesn't work out, you become depressed about it. Joss needs our support right now for ALL of his projects... or else he may come to resent his older, more popular ones.

I'm not so sure about the mourning period. Yes, Joss put a lot of time and effort into DOLLHOUSE, but not NEARLY on par with BUFFY/ANGEL and FIREFLY. To be honest, I think that, so some extent, DOLLHOUSE is actually part of the end-stage of the mourning process for FIREFLY.

To put it in romantic terms, BUFFY/ANGEL was Joss's first love, and FIREFLY was his true love.(based on the way he talked about it in interviews, as well as the way he withdrew after).

DOLLHOUSE? That's the girl a friend sets you up with when you're ready to go out into the dating world again after you've recovered from the trauma of losing your true love (twice).

www.stillflying.net: "Here's how it might have been..."

FIREFLYPASSENGER

Friday, May 15, 2009 3:52 PM

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Originally posted by RIPWash:
I appreciate Joss for his humor. Firefly had it in abundance as did Dr. Horrible. I hear (didn't watch them much) that Buffy and Angel had a fair amount of humor in them. I watched the first three or so episodes of Dollhouse and it was a little too muddled and didn't seem to have much humor.

While I agree that we should try to support Joss, I also think he should reward that loyalty with quality stories. I just don't think Dollhouse had the quality. That's all. I'll check out more of what Joss has done and will do in the future, but I'll be realistic at the same time and know that I may not love EVERYTHING he attempts.

Joss said to wait for episode 6. I started watching from the day it first aired. He is a great storyteller. One thing I've learned is that Joss always has a plan, so eventhough sometimes I don't like what he's doing I wait and see.

I did not like the first five episode. However I watched for the bread crumbs Joss was giving. The best thing about the pilot was the Mutant Enemy logo at the end. However I waited and watched episode 6 and loved it. That episode felt like Joss.

I kept thinking FOX would not let us watch the whole thing like Drive so I was afraid all season of cancellation.

I'll be happy if Dollhouse get renewed but if not then Joss can do other things as you said. For me its win/win.

PIRATENEWS

Friday, May 15, 2009 4:33 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by FireflyPassenger:

I'll be happy if Dollhouse get renewed but if not then Joss can do other things as you said. For me its win/win.

Yeah, that's a Zen Moment.

What if Joss is like Clint Eastwood, and starts using the same cast of actors in every project. That would be shiny.

STORYMARK

Friday, May 15, 2009 4:40 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by MsA:
I'm hoping for a second season, but I won't be stunned if it doesn't happen as FOX is obsessed with ratings in a way not even other networks display....

Obsessed? They gave it more of a shot than any other network would have? It's ratings would have justified cancellation from the start. Fans should be thanking them for at least letting it run it's course.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

KWICKO

Friday, May 15, 2009 4:58 PM

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DOLLHOUSE? That's the girl a friend sets you up with when you're ready to go out into the dating world again after you've recovered from the trauma of losing your true love (twice).

I like the idea of Dollhouse as a rebound fling. Makes it seem like it wasn't supposed to be long-term, just a li'l' sumthin-sumthin' to get us over the hump (so to speak).

So now Joss can clear his mind and get back to the REAL good stuff!

And don't get me wrong; Dollhouse wasn't awful, it just wasn't really any better than anything else that's on TV...

Mike

Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

KWICKO

Friday, May 15, 2009 4:59 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Storymark:
Quote:
Originally posted by MsA:
I'm hoping for a second season, but I won't be stunned if it doesn't happen as FOX is obsessed with ratings in a way not even other networks display....

Obsessed? They gave it more of a shot than any other network would have? It's ratings would have justified cancellation from the start. Fans should be thanking them for at least letting it run it's course.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

Good point, Story. Props to Fox for letting it go on as long as they did. Fox owes me nothing as far as Dollhouse is concerned; they're paid up for giving it a chance.

And none of my negativity towards Dollhouse should be construed as negativity towards Joss. Even Da Vinci created some less-than-masterful works now and again. They can't ALL be masterpieces! This just wasn't Joss at his best. He gave it his all, but it wasn't really a TV-friendly premise from the get-go, and I don't think Eliza is actress enough to pull off the multitude of different characters she needed to be.

Mike

Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

SICKDUDE

Friday, May 15, 2009 5:06 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by DMI:
Not seeing a lot of positivity on this thread so I thought I'd chime in that I liked Dollhouse. Was it the best series ever? No. But it has already come a long way since the first eps which really did suck. I was very, very happy with the last few episodes and loved Alan's characters (all 48 of them). I'll be sad to see it go if the "realists" are right and very, very happy if FOX decides to give it a second chance.

DMI, I agree 100%! Thanks for summing it up so nicely. As has been pointed out, while the first five episodes were weak, it definitely improved and certainly qualified as great joss story-tellin' by the end. Tons of twists and turns. I hope it gets a second season as well.

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