Dollhouse Deathwatch

POSTED BY: piratenews
UPDATED: Monday, May 18, 2009 20:13
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PIRATENEWS

Wednesday, May 13, 2009 4:02 PM

Place your bets...

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A series ratings low for the finale "Omega" is a certain cancellation for Dollhouse. TV By the numbers and The Hollywood reporter is reporting. Really makes you wonder, why couldn't we save Dollhouse?

Tara's Group (the bitter realists) - thinks Dollhouse will not make it to season 2.

Michelle's Group (the starry-eyed optimists) - who believes that Dollhouse get renewed for a second season.

http://buffyfest.blogspot.com/2009/05/dollhouse-is-done.html

Dang, I knew they shoulda got Mr Spock when they had the chance!

MSA

Wednesday, May 13, 2009 8:28 PM

I'm hoping for a second season, but I won't be stunned if it doesn't happen as FOX is obsessed with ratings in a way not even other networks display....

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

RIPWASH

Wednesday, May 13, 2009 8:34 PM

Well . . . ya know . . . the less time he has to focus on Dollhouse (which I gave up on, to be honest), the more time he has to focus on other things . . . like, oh, I don't know . . . Shepard's Tale or Serenity 2 or . . .

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Mal: You think she'll hold together?
Zoë: She's torn up plenty, but she'll fly true.
Mal: Could be bumpy.
Zoë: Always is

ZEEK

Wednesday, May 13, 2009 8:38 PM

I'm pretty sure it's getting canceled and frankly I don't fault Fox for it. The show isn't performing and it's not really up to the Joss standard. I know I won't be fighting for it. I probably won't even get the DVD set unless I find some incredible deal on it.

BYTEMITE

Wednesday, May 13, 2009 8:48 PM

He might work on other things, but only after a prerequisite mourning period.

You work hard on something, it doesn't work out, you become depressed about it. Joss needs our support right now for ALL of his projects... or else he may come to resent his older, more popular ones.

Dollhouse was a good try. I don't think people got what he was trying to get at soon enough, the themes he was trying to explore. And those themes were... Dark. I'll admit that they're so dark that they're kind of a downer, and that after a viewing an episode, it's really not the kind of thing I rewatch...

But I do think there was a point to what he was trying to say, and a quality about how he said it. And I think I get it. So that's what makes it a success, I think.

RIPWASH

Wednesday, May 13, 2009 8:52 PM

I appreciate Joss for his humor. Firefly had it in abundance as did Dr. Horrible. I hear (didn't watch them much) that Buffy and Angel had a fair amount of humor in them. I watched the first three or so episodes of Dollhouse and it was a little too muddled and didn't seem to have much humor.

While I agree that we should try to support Joss, I also think he should reward that loyalty with quality stories. I just don't think Dollhouse had the quality. That's all. I'll check out more of what Joss has done and will do in the future, but I'll be realistic at the same time and know that I may not love EVERYTHING he attempts.

*********************************************
Mal: You think she'll hold together?
Zoë: She's torn up plenty, but she'll fly true.
Mal: Could be bumpy.
Zoë: Always is

BYTEMITE

Wednesday, May 13, 2009 9:00 PM

I disagree with you that there wasn't quality. The show explored some important themes, such as identity and questioning the current self-obsessed culture of using people. It was done with good cinematography and use of mood and music. Characters had real problems, in an admittedly unusual setting, and eventually, piece by piece, we were revealed glimpses of personality.

The problem you're pointing out isn't a lack of quality, it's an overabundance of careful building plot and character progression. Even in the first five episodes, he had a direction... It's just moving in that direction was kinda slow going, too slow for a lot of people.

I'm not saying that Joss is or should be considered an unquestionable master of storytelling, or that there weren't flaws, or that this wasn't for everyone. I'm not even all that sure it was for ME.

But to say it lacked quality, just because you didn't like it or couldn't get into it? C'mon, mon, that's a smidgen harsh.

RIPWASH

Wednesday, May 13, 2009 9:02 PM

Okay okay. You got me. That was a bit harsh. It just wasn't my kind of thing even though I really wanted it to be.

*********************************************
Mal: You think she'll hold together?
Zoë: She's torn up plenty, but she'll fly true.
Mal: Could be bumpy.
Zoë: Always is

KWICKO

Wednesday, May 13, 2009 9:20 PM

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Originally posted by RIPWash:
I appreciate Joss for his humor. Firefly had it in abundance as did Dr. Horrible. I hear (didn't watch them much) that Buffy and Angel had a fair amount of humor in them. I watched the first three or so episodes of Dollhouse and it was a little too muddled and didn't seem to have much humor.

While I agree that we should try to support Joss, I also think he should reward that loyalty with quality stories. I just don't think Dollhouse had the quality. That's all. I'll check out more of what Joss has done and will do in the future, but I'll be realistic at the same time and know that I may not love EVERYTHING he attempts.

*********************************************
Mal: You think she'll hold together?
Zoë: She's torn up plenty, but she'll fly true.
Mal: Could be bumpy.
Zoë: Always is

Agreed. His take on the Alien franchise pretty much sucked eggs.

I had high hopes for Dollhouse, but honestly, I'm glad it's gone. One more hour freed up for more important things. I wish it had been better, but you don't strike gold every time you write a show. Joss has had plenty of good, and a little bad. That's more than a lot of folk can say.

Mike

Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

PEULSAR5

Wednesday, May 13, 2009 10:01 PM

Not to split hairs, but I think his Alien script was heavily rewritten by other people which contributed greatly to the suckage. On the flip side, didn't he rewrite Titan AE, which was a pretty good animated film? Joss writing an animated move... hhhmmmn.

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