Ronald Reagan - rot!

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UPDATED: Sunday, July 11, 2004 22:01
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DARKARCHON

Tuesday, June 8, 2004 4:01 AM

Can you feel the love in the room?

EBONEZER

Tuesday, June 8, 2004 4:17 AM

"Have you ever stopped to think that if Reagan had not gone into politics he...would probably be doing guest shots on Loveboat?"

-From All Kidding Aside by Charles R. Johnson

It really doesn't have much to do with anything, but I think it's pretty funny. Its from a monologe i have to proform tomorow in theater.

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Four out of five dentists reccomend calling Ebo a girl.

DBELL46

Tuesday, June 8, 2004 4:22 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Peace:

Right now the rhetoric about Reagan is pretty purple, and I just want to insert my two cents of dissent from this opinion. In the long run, I don't think history will be very kind to Reagan; I'm pretty sure he'll rank in the lower third of presidents.

I will now retire to my foxhole in anticipation of the incoming fire this statement is going to take....

Oh, bugger! Now I have to wait for someone to wake up!

Ronald Reagan's popularity was, for the most part, always a media artifact. True story; on the day he was shot, I was eating lunch in a center city Philadelphia restaurant with a mixed group of people (young, old, black, white), when someone
ran in from the street and said that Reagan had been shot. Quite a few people stood up and cheered.

Also, has anyone ever heard of a book entitled The October Surprise? If the author's right
Bush the first and others committed treason to make Carter look bad before the election in order to get Reagan in. Then two U.S. senators (John Hiens and Robert Tower) die during the arms-for-
hostages investigation.... within two weeks of each other...in aircraft crashes (one helicopter, and one business jet)

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Treason doth never prosper. For if it does,
none dare call it treason.
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THOREAU

Tuesday, June 8, 2004 4:47 AM

Sure he had that honest, friendly voice..he was an actor, plain and simple. Let's not pretend he was a hero of the american people just because he knew how to play the role of a gentle father. How many of the highest ranking government officials from his tenure DIDN'T end up on trial for their actions? 4?

I'd dance on dubya's grave before the diggers even got there, for Reagan I just nod indifferently. Current administration taken into consideration, he was still pretty bad, but not as bad as it can be.

t

Jayne: "These are stone killers, little man. They ain't cuddly like me."

CPTCRCKPOT

Tuesday, June 8, 2004 3:01 PM

Frankly, I'm appalled after reading these messages. A human being has died, and all most of you can do is talk about the things you disliked and disagreed with him about. This is not about politics, this is about the death of a fellow human being. Using the occasion of his death as a time to air your political differences with him, and with our current president, is inappropriate at best, heartless and cruel at worst. You, who would cry and lament the death of an imaginary character in a TV show, cannot bring yourself to feel anything but disdain at the death of a real person. Shame on all of you who have used this moment as a time to attack the deceased, instead of mourning the loss of a fellow member of the human race.

No matter where you go, there you are

HKCAVALIER

Tuesday, June 8, 2004 3:47 PM

In my experience, death's a pretty straight forward thing and people have a right to their feelings--good or bad.

I don't see anything wrong with taking this occasion to criticize the former president--particularly in light of the media's gushy lionizing to which we've all been subjected this week and the fact the we'll be spending millions of dollars that we can't afford on his state funeral (the first for an ex-president in 30 years--why now?).

When people die, other people tend to do one of two things: make up a lot of embarrassing, schmaltzy lies about what great humanitarians they were, or they get in touch with the truth of how they feel about that person. The honesty often takes the form of unexpressed love, or recognition of the small decent things we've witnessed the departed do in their lifetime, but it can also be very negative--particularly if the departed held a great deal of power in our lives. No, you prolly don't make a scene at your evil grandfather's funeral, but you don't suffer all the phoney eulogizing either.

And what have we been getting on the tv non-stop for the past two days? Phoney eulogizing.

Reagan does not deserve any less respect than anyone else who has died, but he certainly doesn't deserve any more.

P.S: Hey, CptCrckpot, nice sig you got there

HKCavalier

Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.

ARAWAEN

Tuesday, June 8, 2004 4:20 PM

I don't mourn the dead, but it is humane to have compassion for the survivors. They did not lose a president (good or bad), they lost a father or a husband.

Quote:
A man's dying is more the survivors' affair than his own.

~Thomas Mann

I cannot deny however that I take some measure of comfort in the belief that justice is not so disproportionately applied in the next life.

Quote:
In the democracy of the dead all men at last are equal. There is neither rank nor station nor prerogative in the republic of the grave.

~John James Ingalls

Arawaen

Um, I'm lost. Uh, I'm Angry. And I'm Armed.

GRACEOM

Tuesday, June 8, 2004 4:50 PM

I am sorry the man is dead, and even more sorry that he had to suffer from such a dreadful, pitiless, and eventually degrading disease. I'm especially sorry for his widow, who I firmly believe was devoted to him.

But I'm still apalled by the hagiography, which has been bordering on revisionist history. Let's remember the man for the positive aspects of his personality, and for the worthwhile things he actually did (like burying the hatchet with Gorbachov). We don't have to discuss the less appealing "accomplishments" of his presidency right now; I'm content to respectfully let them rest and keep my opinions to myself. But let's not lie about them either.

Grace

KALATHENA

Tuesday, June 8, 2004 5:16 PM

My two favorite were left off the list:

Taxing children to balance the budget
Endorsing the Ba'ath Party in Iraq & Syria

I'm REALLY getting tired of hearing how Reagan single-handedly ended the cold war. Sheesh. Are people's memories really that short? The USSR died because someone had a cell phone when the coup went down.

I am truly sorry that he suffered an insufferable disease. I've worked in a nursing home in the past and Alzheimer's is a HORRIBLE way to have to deteriorate and die. I would not wish that on anyone.

But I cannot bring myself to say my usual prayer for the dead: "Goddess keep him until he returns to us." My only prayer for Reagan will be "Goddess keep him. Please".

--Kala

SIGNYM

Tuesday, June 8, 2004 7:11 PM

I hated Reagan even during "Death Valley Days". Something in my (at the time) little kid ears heard a BIG FAT PHONY!

It didn't get any better by the time the Presidential elections rolled around. When he campaigned on cutting taxes, increasing military spending, and balancing the budget, I knew he had less than one foot in reality.

I hope he rests in peace. We, however, have to live with his legacy.

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