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Ronald Reagan - rot!

POSTED BY: Ghoulman
UPDATED: Sunday, July 11, 2004 22:01
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RUE
Friday, June 18, 2004 1:28 AM

Vilavon,

I predict we'll have a major attack on US soil within 18 months. The US is not better prepared and there are a lot more people truly determined to hurt the country. I can afford to wait to prove you wrong.

Care to make it interesting?

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Saturday, June 19, 2004 6:32 PM

I have two nephews "over there" as they say. That's interesting enough for me.

Vilavon AKA Claude

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RUE
Sunday, June 20, 2004 1:28 AM

Then I truly sympathize. It must be stressful.

I would like to know your reasons for saying the US is safer.

These are my opinions:

Probably the biggest supporter of *international terrorism* against the US is al Qaeda. While the US is busy in Iraq, al Qaeda is regrouping in Afghanistan.

I think there are two levels of threat to the US on US soil:

1) the very sophisticated, large-scale, horrific type that take resources, know-how, and international access. 9/11 was on that scale, and biological, chemical, or nuclear ('dirty bomb') threats are there as well. That's the kind of action al Qaeda would need to be involved in to get off the ground.

2) the McVeigh/Nichols scale. While horrific in its own right, it's a single instance, uses readily available materials and knowledge, and doesn't require complicated international travel to get everyone together. That's the kind of attack an individual terrorist cell could organize on their own without much trouble.

Abu Ghraib I believe made moderates into extremists, and extremmists into suicidal terrorists. There are credible intelligence reports it created tens of thousands more potential global terrorists.

The US hasn't hardened its defences against this kind of attack.

I think that it takes about 20 months or so to put a small-scale attack in place. Counting from Abu Ghraib, that puts it 18 months from now.

However, that doesn't preclude a more complicated, debilitating attack from happening later.

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Monday, June 21, 2004 7:39 PM


hmmm... how's this possible:

1. you are a clairvoyant. Superb! do you read the Tarot as well?

2. you have insider information. You've better call the FBI and let them know. If you won't, I will.

3. you are some kind of major fruitcake, randomly thinking up conspiracy crap and imagining up political intrigue where there is none.

4. you like to randomly pull figures out of your ass and call it your prediction of the week.


Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
Vilavon,

I predict we'll have a major attack on US soil within 18 months. The US is not better prepared and there are a lot more people truly determined to hurt the country. I can afford to wait to prove you wrong.

Care to make it interesting?




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Monday, June 21, 2004 7:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ghoulman:
^^^ don't let the door hit your rightous ass on the way out.



Good *insert diety here* I really think you have serious problems. You are such a zealot.

Its funny, there is very little middle ground, (apparently) here. Its either white or black with the posters here, it seems.

I think that very quote makes you appear more self-righteous and arrogant then he ever sounded. He's right, its sickening to hear about people dancing on graves. Sure, death is common, but it doesn't mean that one can glorify in the tragedy of others. I don't gloat when I hear about the deaths of terrorists, or when an Iraqi is killed. I don't glorify in the death of a murderer, and I try my best not to wish death upon my enemies.

Some of the postings here are downright disturbing.

(Note this isn't directed entirely at Ghoulman.)



I don't care, I'm still free.

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Monday, June 21, 2004 8:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JCobb:
Quote:

Originally posted by Ghoulman:
^^^ don't let the door hit your rightous ass on the way out.



Good *insert diety here* I really think you have serious problems. You are such a zealot.

Its funny, there is very little middle ground, (apparently) here. Its either white or black with the posters here, it seems.

I think that very quote makes you appear more self-righteous and arrogant then he ever sounded. He's right, its sickening to hear about people dancing on graves. Sure, death is common, but it doesn't mean that one can glorify in the tragedy of others. I don't gloat when I hear about the deaths of terrorists, or when an Iraqi is killed. I don't glorify in the death of a murderer, and I try my best not to wish death upon my enemies.

Some of the postings here are downright disturbing.

(Note this isn't directed entirely at Ghoulman.)



I don't care, I'm still free.




I have to agree with JCobb on this.

Although I have to admit that Ghoulmans posts seem more like just plain "American bashing" to me rather than real, informed social commentary on americans in general.

I'm sorry he feels that way, but maybe he should just try to get over it. All this hate will just raise his blood pressure.

We would'nt want that now would we?



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Tuesday, June 22, 2004 6:59 PM

Dear Rue,

I can't say I don't like your way of thinking. It serves Tom Clancy novels well enough. I am an Air Force vet myself and find little knowledge and much "opinion" in your postings.
Foremost, Abu Ghraib (or however you spell it) is being taken care of in the proper manner. I think Saddam would be handing out medals to these goobers instead of punishment, as the U.S. military is doing.
I really don't need your sympathy. I get by just fine by knowing that my nephews, Army and Marine, were well trained and accepting of the idea that the military isn't just a social program for college matching funds.
Try turning off CNN and dig into some real research like soldiers letters home, readily available on the internet, I am almost certain but can't say with authority. That's just how I think it should be.
Uninformed opinions are dangerous things that attack your brain. As Harlan Ellison has said "You are NOT entitled to your opinion. You ARE entitled to your informed opinion."
See? Liberals have good ideas, too!
Not shocking, though. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
Have a nice one.

Vilavon AKA Claude

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RUE
Wednesday, June 23, 2004 4:17 AM

Vilavon,

As I said before, I can afford to wait. I put my predictions out there because checking preditions by looking at the results in the future is a TRUE test.

So I'm not going to argue about whether they are well founded or not. It's pointless. We'll find out in due time.

I wonder if anyone else has any predictions to make, on the record? C'mon folks - it's only one small harmless little limb. You just kinda wiggle forward, go out there some more ...

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Thursday, June 24, 2004 2:34 PM

All right here's my lil ole predictions.

I predict that in the year 2004 a man will be elected president of the United States of America.

I predict that cars will be washed mainly in the summertime and often NOT at a public car wash!!

I predict that words will continue to be spelled the weigh thae hav bin fore yeers.

I predict that people without vision for a better future will stay mired in the past on this message board, trying to yank the rest of us down with them.

Old hippies will become CEO's of big companies....Not a prediction. Sorry. That's happened already.

Don't forget to polish your crystal balls, Rue!



Vilavon AKA Claude

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Thursday, June 24, 2004 3:57 PM

I spent most of my teen years with this country under the leadership of Ronald Reagan. During this time, I wasn't into politics. Actually could have cared less about them.

What I remember about that time period is that I felt safe and trusted our country was in good hands. The economy was good [that means if you wanted to work, you could find a job doing SOMETHING]. I got my first job as a bagboy, making a whole $3-and-something an hour.

I'm actually surprised there's so much bashing of his presidency.

I can't exactly say the same thing about Clinton's legacy. I think it began ok, but things were really in turmoil at the end of it. I did vote for Gore though, and would do so again if I could go back in time. [But I wouldn't this year].

To me, the federal election is nothing compared to your local elections. They're going to make the decisions that will have the most affect on our communities. Make sure you know the guys and gals on your city council and county commission, as well as your state rep's and senators.

The feds control the military and international relations. The states are our peaceful governments.

Power to the States!

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