The downfall of the right

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CHRISISALL

Monday, April 27, 2009 8:43 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
You need to refer to HERO whether or not guys take Viagra want to take it?

You DO understand what Viagra is used for, yes?

Again, you miss the point.

But, like, you REALLY DO miss the point, that's what's so funny.
You need to watch this show:

The laughing Chrisisall

KWICKO

Monday, April 27, 2009 9:25 PM

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Not if me and mine got any say in the matter, Mikey.

And being that we've been planning it for twenty friggin years, we WILL have that say.

-F

Here's hoping you have that say, and that you're heard, loud and clear...

Quote:

They sentenced me to twenty years of boredom
For trying to change the system from within.
I'm coming now, I'm coming to reward them...
First we take Manhattan, and then we'll take Berlin.

Mike

Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

CHRISISALL

Monday, April 27, 2009 9:28 PM

Leonard Cohen rocks.

The laughing Chrisisall

KWICKO

Monday, April 27, 2009 9:33 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Leonard Cohen rocks.

The laughing Chrisisall

Indeed. Wish I could've gone to see him. He was just here in Austin on his latest tour - his first in over fifteen years (and likely his last, since he is getting quite old now). Alas, the tickets started at $130 each, and I'm just not laying out that kind of jack for a 2-hour show.

By the way, the show DID sell out, and quickly, so they added another. Still couldn't afford the tix, though...

Mike

Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

RIPWASH

Tuesday, April 28, 2009 11:05 AM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
As for the whole "downfall of the right" idea... I just don't see it happening. The neo-conservative clique may be out of power for the moment, but they'll do what their kind have always done: adapt and come back. They'll morph into the next version of a modern "conservative" - whether that be hardcore evangelicals, hard-right neo-nazis, or some freaky amalgam of the two, or something more like Goldwater or Reagan.

That was my point earlier, as well. And, honestly, Kwicko, each party has done and will do exactly what you said here. Each party will change it's colors to fit what it feels is the direction it's base is moving toward. Right now, you're probably right about the GOP. A lot of people are concerned right now that the GOP has lost it's Conservative values, so there are a few politicians out there (and yes Sarah Palin is one of them, like it or not) that are going to be pushing that agenda forward. The GOP is looking to them to be the next "superstars" of the party because they are starting see that it's what their base wants from them. Right now the Dems are on top of the world, but if anything happens during this administration that causes people to question what they've been doing or what they've done in the past, then I wholeheartedly think that they will change the beat of their drum in a heartbeat also.

Zoe: "Get it running again."
Mal: "Yeah"
Zoe: "So not running now"
Mal: "Not so much"
- Out of Gas

KWICKO

Tuesday, April 28, 2009 12:10 PM

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Originally posted by RIPWash:

That was my point earlier, as well. And, honestly, Kwicko, each party has done and will do exactly what you said here. Each party will change it's colors to fit what it feels is the direction it's base is moving toward.

Oh, definitely. In no way did I mean to imply that either party hasn't done this. It's how they survive - evolution. Ooooh - maybe I shouldn't use that word in regards to conservatives...

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Right now, you're probably right about the GOP. A lot of people are concerned right now that the GOP has lost it's Conservative values, so there are a few politicians out there (and yes Sarah Palin is one of them, like it or not) that are going to be pushing that agenda forward.

And time will tell how successful they are in doing that. Reagan was tremendously successful in revitalizing his party, but he was a left-liberal-looney compared to the likes of Barry Goldwater. We'll see if the conservative movement tries to trudge into the 21st century, or if they decide to seek refuge in the 19th century.

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The GOP is looking to them to be the next "superstars" of the party because they are starting see that it's what their base wants from them. Right now the Dems are on top of the world, but if anything happens during this administration that causes people to question what they've been doing or what they've done in the past, then I wholeheartedly think that they will change the beat of their drum in a heartbeat also.

Agreed. There could well be "Obama Republicans" - and by that I mean not only Republicans who support Obama, but Democrats so turned off by him that they'll vote Republican given any reasonable alternative to Obama.

Personally, I'd like to see a viable third-party candidate come along. If Obama screws up (and he will; he has already), and if the Republicans CAN'T find their new direction, the stage is set for a third-party candidate to make some headway. Ross Perot might be a joke now, but he definitely made a difference in 1992. Just ask Bill Clinton and George H.W. Bush - Perot may well have been the deciding factor in that election.

Mike

Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

RIPWASH

Tuesday, April 28, 2009 12:15 PM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Ross Perot might be a joke now, but he definitely made a difference in 1992. Just ask Bill Clinton and George H.W. Bush - Perot may well have been the deciding factor in that election.

Heehee. I voted for him. Seemed like the viable option at the time compared to the other two. He had a "down home" feel to him that I liked and he seemed to make a lot of sense.

Zoe: "Get it running again."
Mal: "Yeah"
Zoe: "So not running now"
Mal: "Not so much"
- Out of Gas

KWICKO

Tuesday, April 28, 2009 2:09 PM

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Originally posted by RIPWash:
Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:
Ross Perot might be a joke now, but he definitely made a difference in 1992. Just ask Bill Clinton and George H.W. Bush - Perot may well have been the deciding factor in that election.

Heehee. I voted for him. Seemed like the viable option at the time compared to the other two. He had a "down home" feel to him that I liked and he seemed to make a lot of sense.

Zoe: "Get it running again."
Mal: "Yeah"
Zoe: "So not running now"
Mal: "Not so much"
- Out of Gas

Well, there ya go - we're really NOT that far apart. I voted for him in '92, too!

RIPWASH

Tuesday, April 28, 2009 2:11 PM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Well, there ya go - we're really NOT that far apart. I voted for him in '92, too!

Yeah . . . but I grew UP since then!

Just kidding!!!! LOL

Zoe: "Get it running again."
Mal: "Yeah"
Zoe: "So not running now"
Mal: "Not so much"
- Out of Gas

JONGSSTRAW

Tuesday, April 28, 2009 2:47 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:
Quote:
Originally posted by RIPWash:

That was my point earlier, as well. And, honestly, Kwicko, each party has done and will do exactly what you said here. Each party will change it's colors to fit what it feels is the direction it's base is moving toward.

Oh, definitely. In no way did I mean to imply that either party hasn't done this. It's how they survive - evolution. Ooooh - maybe I shouldn't use that word in regards to conservatives...

Quote:
Right now, you're probably right about the GOP. A lot of people are concerned right now that the GOP has lost it's Conservative values, so there are a few politicians out there (and yes Sarah Palin is one of them, like it or not) that are going to be pushing that agenda forward.

And time will tell how successful they are in doing that. Reagan was tremendously successful in revitalizing his party, but he was a left-liberal-looney compared to the likes of Barry Goldwater. We'll see if the conservative movement tries to trudge into the 21st century, or if they decide to seek refuge in the 19th century.

Quote:

The GOP is looking to them to be the next "superstars" of the party because they are starting see that it's what their base wants from them. Right now the Dems are on top of the world, but if anything happens during this administration that causes people to question what they've been doing or what they've done in the past, then I wholeheartedly think that they will change the beat of their drum in a heartbeat also.

Agreed. There could well be "Obama Republicans" - and by that I mean not only Republicans who support Obama, but Democrats so turned off by him that they'll vote Republican given any reasonable alternative to Obama.

Personally, I'd like to see a viable third-party candidate come along. If Obama screws up (and he will; he has already), and if the Republicans CAN'T find their new direction, the stage is set for a third-party candidate to make some headway. Ross Perot might be a joke now, but he definitely made a difference in 1992. Just ask Bill Clinton and George H.W. Bush - Perot may well have been the deciding factor in that election.

Mike

Sorry, but I disagree. Republicans are finished as a national party. May still win some local and state elections, but for national office they have no chance. The other side is too well organized and zealous to ever lose control of events and outcomes. Their machine has no "off-switch". It's still in full throttle mode, despite the election being won five months ago. There is absolutley almost nothing to counter or stop it.

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