I give up- Bush was an okay dude after all.

POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 04:14
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CHRISISALL

Tuesday, April 21, 2009 2:07 PM

If more than half of America & most other peeps on Earth feel this way, by my very "no-herd-mentality" principles, I must believe something else.

So, Bush is now okay in my book!

The laughing Chrisisall

CHRISISALL

Tuesday, April 21, 2009 3:35 PM

And again....I am alone in this opinion it seems.
It takes a special kind of vision to buck popular trends.

The laughing Chrisisall

KWICKO

Tuesday, April 21, 2009 4:02 PM

Well, it takes a special kind of something to back Bush, at least. Even 'Rappy the Wonder Dog has been backing away from Bush lately like he farted in church.

Mike

Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

CHRISISALL

Tuesday, April 21, 2009 4:06 PM

Wait... if 'Rapo doesn't like Bush anymore, this sets up a paradox in my subroutine- I am bound to be diametrically opposed to AU's take on things, yet I am anti-lemming in principal....

NORMAN COORDINATE!!!!

The laughing Chrisisall

ANTHONYT

Tuesday, April 21, 2009 4:16 PM

Hello,

I look at the 90% approval after 9/11 and feel very sad that we couldn't accomplish anything productive with it, but rather proverbially pissed it away.

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

JONGSSTRAW

Tuesday, April 21, 2009 4:26 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Wait... if 'Rapo doesn't like Bush anymore, this sets up a paradox in my subroutine- I am bound to be diametrically opposed to AU's take on things, yet I am anti-lemming in principal....

NORMAN COORDINATE!!!!

The laughing Chrisisall

You rang sir?

CHRISISALL

Tuesday, April 21, 2009 4:29 PM

You rang sir?

I am not programmed to respond in that area.

The laughing Chrisisall

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT

Tuesday, April 21, 2009 4:31 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
I am anti-lemming in principal....

" Now, Chris, if all your friends' mothers told them NOT to jump off a cliff, would you go ahead and do it, just to be different?"

CHRISISALL

Tuesday, April 21, 2009 4:33 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat:

" Now, Chris, if all your friends' mothers told them NOT to jump off a cliff, would you go ahead and do it, just to be different?"

Actually...yes.
And I have, btw.

The laughing Chrisisall

ANTHONYT

Tuesday, April 21, 2009 4:35 PM

Hello,

I guess we all know how to control Chris like a Robot. ;-)

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

JONGSSTRAW

Tuesday, April 21, 2009 4:35 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:

You rang sir?

I am not programmed to respond in that area.

The laughing Chrisisall

Well laddy, you better see to that!

CHRISISALL

Tuesday, April 21, 2009 4:45 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by AnthonyT:

I guess we all know how to control Chris like a Robot. ;-)

"I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered!"

The laughing Chrisisall

ANTHONYT

Tuesday, April 21, 2009 4:48 PM

Hello,

If I've told you twice, I've told you six times... you are our prisoner, now.

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

ANTHONYT

Tuesday, April 21, 2009 4:53 PM

Hello,

Incidentally, one of my faves:

"In time, most of us join the enemy - against ourselves."

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

CHRISISALL

Tuesday, April 21, 2009 5:12 PM

KWICKO

Tuesday, April 21, 2009 5:27 PM

I am not a prisoner; I am a FREE MAN!!!

By the way, who is Number One?

Mike

Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

KWICKO

Tuesday, April 21, 2009 5:30 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Hello,

I look at the 90% approval after 9/11 and feel very sad that we couldn't accomplish anything productive with it, but rather proverbially pissed it away.

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

What breaks my heart is that I was part of that 90%. And I'd have thought it was closer to 99% at the time.

Note that the graph cuts off in early '08 - it doesn't show the long slide down to the 18-22% range that Bush achieved by last summer.

Mike

Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

JONGSSTRAW

Tuesday, April 21, 2009 6:20 PM

And at the same time that Bush sank, Pelosi's Clown Congress hit a new historic low of 9% approval rating.

RUE

Tuesday, April 21, 2009 7:08 PM

"... Pelosi's Clown Congress hit a new historic low of 9% approval rating."

So, Pelsoi ran ALL of congress ? Wow. I'm sure she'd be glad to find that out !

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Silence is consent.

JONGSSTRAW

Tuesday, April 21, 2009 7:29 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by rue:
"... Pelosi's Clown Congress hit a new historic low of 9% approval rating."

So, Pelsoi ran all of congress ? Wow. I'm sure she'd be glad to find that out !

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Correction, Pelosi-Reid Clown Congress. She only represented 81% of the total clowns. But the fact remains, Democrat-controlled Congress did sink in approval ratings lower than Bush.

AURAPTOR

Tuesday, April 21, 2009 7:33 PM

I've voiced major disagreements w/ Bush over lots of issues, but on balance, and knowing what we now know, I'd much - MUCH rather have Bush over Gore or Kerry.

No contest.

BYTEMITE

Tuesday, April 21, 2009 7:34 PM

I still don't think Bush was to blame for his administration. I think he's the frat boy who never grew up and who faked having gotten religion.

I can't really blame him if he didn't seem to understand what's going on. Most Americans don't understand politics or the economy either, and are happy letting other people dictate them.

Most Americans need a wake up call, but I don't hate them. Therefore, I don't hate Bush.

However, I do think Cheney may be pure evil, concentrated and incarnate.

AURAPTOR

Tuesday, April 21, 2009 7:38 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Bytemite:

However, I do think Cheney may be pure evil, concentrated and incarnate.

Based on what ? I think Cheney is awesome, and I'm not kidding. He's rock solid in his views and a damn smart man. In all seriousness, I see where folks could get annoyed at W, but Cheney ? I don't get it. What's so "evil" about him?

RUE

Tuesday, April 21, 2009 7:44 PM

"But the fact remains, Democrat-controlled Congress did sink in approval ratings lower than Bush."

"9% of Americans polled feel that Congress (House and Senate, Democrat, Independent, and Republican) are doing a good or excellent job."

Your friends don't skate away on this one.

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Silence is consent.

JONGSSTRAW

Tuesday, April 21, 2009 8:01 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by rue:
"But the fact remains, Democrat-controlled Congress did sink in approval ratings lower than Bush."

"9% of Americans polled feel that Congress (House and Senate, Democrat, Independent, and Republican) are doing a good or excellent job."

Your friends don't skate away on this one.

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Agreed, but I never said that they did. Pelosi wasted 2 years in her hopeless one-sided partisan efforts against the "so-called brainless" Bush Admin and got zilch. Now, with Obama, she's running amok in my opinion. Funny thing, Congress' approval ratings recently soared back up when she was out of the country.

CHRISISALL

Tuesday, April 21, 2009 8:03 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:

Based on what ? I think Cheney is awesome, and I'm not kidding.

I'd say that I'm through taking you at all seriously for that, but I said it already.

The laughing Chrisisall

BYTEMITE

Tuesday, April 21, 2009 8:06 PM

@AURaptor: Mostly he just plain scares the bejeesus out of me. It's probably self-preservation: I think if we ever met, he'd shoot me. Either that, or his super power is intimidating anyone who leans left, because he seems to give off anti-liberal death vibes.

Although the profits Halliburton has made in the Middle East since the two invasions of the Bush Administration I also find worrisome, since he has connections with Halliburton. And I really question the role our government had in the Iran Contra Affair...

Finally, he's very secretive, which makes me not overly inclined to trust him.

There's a lot of politicians who I don't trust, mind, including Hillary Clinton and Obama (trust needs to be earned, and so far I haven't seen any damn change I can believe in), but he's the only one who I would run away from if I ever saw him.

CHRISISALL

Tuesday, April 21, 2009 8:10 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Bytemite:
he seems to give off anti-liberal death vibes.

This is the only part AU might give you- the rest will be called "sad little lies from a sad little lefty," or some such. Don't even bother, B.

The laughing Chrisisall

CHRISISALL

Tuesday, April 21, 2009 8:18 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
I'd much - MUCH rather have Bush over Gore or Kerry.

And I'd much - MUCH rather follow Khan over Spock or Matt Decker.

The laughing Chrisisall

BYTEMITE

Tuesday, April 21, 2009 8:20 PM

I dunno, I'm not really accusing Cheney of anything, it's just the feeling I have about him.

Evil incarnate is probably a little strong, but it's hard for me to be objective about a guy who would most likely kill me if we ever met.

CHRISISALL

Tuesday, April 21, 2009 8:24 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Bytemite:
it's just the feeling I have about him.

I had that same feeling about O.J., but hey, it's all about what you can PROVE, is it not??

The laughing Chrisisall

JONGSSTRAW

Tuesday, April 21, 2009 8:26 PM

Cheney's still running around shooting his stupid mouth off. He's defending torture (aka coerced interrogation) as if there were/are no other options. I think he's delusional, and I think he's going to be tried for crimes many are accusing him of. He'd be much better off if he just stfu.

RUE

Tuesday, April 21, 2009 8:28 PM

Shooting your friend in a hunting accident and making HIM apologize ... that gives me the creeps. Who DOES that kind of thing ?

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Silence is consent.

CHRISISALL

Tuesday, April 21, 2009 8:29 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
I think he's going to be tried for crimes many are accusing him of.

No way, peeps with connections on whatever political leaning get multiple Get-out-of-deep-shit-free cards as perks to the jobs.

The laughing Chrisisall

AURAPTOR

Tuesday, April 21, 2009 9:08 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:

Based on what ? I think Cheney is awesome, and I'm not kidding.
I'd say that I'm through taking you at all seriously for that, but I said it already.

The laughing Chrisisall

Demonize someone on the Right, and call them Hitler, racist, homophobe, hate monger, etc...

When anyone asks " why ? " , demonize THAT person, and repeat.

Being a Liberal means never EVER having to explain yourself. To ANYone.

CHRISISALL

Tuesday, April 21, 2009 9:23 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:

Demonize someone on the Right, and call them Hitler, racist, homophobe, hate monger, etc...

I would demonize demons, dummy.

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When anyone asks " why ? " , demonize THAT person, and repeat.

I don't demonize you, I MARGINALIZE you- there's a difference.

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Being a Liberal means never EVER having to explain yourself. To ANYone.

Being a NeoCon means never EVER having to listen. To ANYone.

The laughing Chrisisall

AURAPTOR

Tuesday, April 21, 2009 9:27 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Being a NeoCon means never EVER having to listen. To ANYone.

The laughing Chrisisall

I asked a legit question, and you didn't answer. Your reply ? You demonized, marginalized, mocked me. Why? Don't rightly know or care. All I know is it's absurd for you to say anyone doesn't listen when you're not SAYING anything of value or substance in the first place.

CHRISISALL

Tuesday, April 21, 2009 9:31 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:

I asked a legit question, and you didn't answer. Your reply ? You demonized, marginalized, mocked me.

I did not demonize you.

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it's absurd for you to say anyone doesn't listen when you're not SAYING anything of value or substance in the first place.

Learned my lesson with ya boy- never sweat an answer with AURaptor, it's a waste of time.

The laughing Chrisisall

KWICKO

Tuesday, April 21, 2009 11:26 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
I've voiced major disagreements w/ Bush over lots of issues, but on balance, and knowing what we now know, I'd much - MUCH rather have Bush over Gore or Kerry.

No contest.

I've voice major disagreements w/ Bush over lots of issues, but on balance, and knowing what we now know, I'd much - MUCH rather have had Gore or Kerry over Bush.

No contest.

Mike

Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

KWICKO

Tuesday, April 21, 2009 11:28 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Quote:
Originally posted by rue:
"But the fact remains, Democrat-controlled Congress did sink in approval ratings lower than Bush."

"9% of Americans polled feel that Congress (House and Senate, Democrat, Independent, and Republican) are doing a good or excellent job."

Your friends don't skate away on this one.

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Agreed, but I never said that they did. Pelosi wasted 2 years in her hopeless one-sided partisan efforts against the "so-called brainless" Bush Admin and got zilch. Now, with Obama, she's running amok in my opinion. Funny thing, Congress' approval ratings recently soared back up when she was out of the country.

Well, it's certainly true that *I* approved of Congress more when Pelosi was out of the country...

RUE

Tuesday, April 21, 2009 11:40 PM

I never even noticed that she was. When was that ?

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Silence is consent.

AURAPTOR

Tuesday, April 21, 2009 11:43 PM

and still not one legitimate derogatory thing against Cheney.

Huh.

RUE

Tuesday, April 21, 2009 11:44 PM

You mean besides being drunk, shooting his friend in the face, and making his friend apologize for it ?

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Silence is consent.

AURAPTOR

Wednesday, April 22, 2009 12:30 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by rue:
You mean besides being drunk, shooting his friend in the face, and making his friend apologize for it ?

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Silence is consent.

Drunk ( allegedly ) , being involved in a hunting accident in which his friend was or was not out of position? Gee, yeah. I see why now the Left was calling him 'satan' , even before the accident. That explains it all.

Oh, wait....no it doesn't. That doesn't explain anything.

FREMDFIRMA

Wednesday, April 22, 2009 12:32 AM

Quote:
Well, it's certainly true that *I* approved of Congress more when Pelosi was out of the country...

Seems most folk on both sides did.

Next time, how bout we send her to mars!

-F

CHRISISALL

Wednesday, April 22, 2009 12:35 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
That explains it all.

Oh, wait....no it doesn't. That doesn't explain anything.

Lying, fabricating & cherry-picking intel to have their little war, assassination squads, fascist media control, contempt for the Constitution....hell, forget all that- how about for intentionally creating a profit windfall for him & his pals using American BLOOD???

Oh, but none of that's true, right 'Rap?

See. That's why I seldom do this anymore...but I had a free moment.

The laughing Chrisisall

AURAPTOR

Wednesday, April 22, 2009 12:40 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
That explains it all.

Oh, wait....no it doesn't. That doesn't explain anything.

Lying, fabricating & cherry-picking intel to have their little war, assassination squads, fascist media control, contempt for the Constitution....hell, forget all that- how about for intentionally creating a profit windfall for him & his pals using American BLOOD???

Oh, but none of that's true, right 'Rap?

See. That's why I seldom do this anymore...but I had a free moment.

The laughing Chrisisall

Where ? Where is your evidence Cheney did ANY of this ?

And, as if by divine fiat, ....
Romancing the Jihad

Why are so many on the Left enamored with Islamism?

By Clifford D. May

Ask those on the Left what values they champion, and they will say equality, tolerance, women’s rights, gay rights, workers’ rights, and human rights. Militant Islamists oppose all that, not infrequently through the application of lethal force. So how does one explain the burgeoning Left-Islamist alliance?

I know: There are principled individuals on the Left who do not condone terrorism or minimize the Islamist threat. The author Paul Berman, unambiguously and unashamedly a man of the Left, has been more incisive on these issues than just about anyone else. Left-of-center publications such as The New Republic have not been apologists for radical jihadists.

But The Nation has been soft on Islamism for decades. Back in 1979, editorial-board member Richard Falk welcomed the Iranian revolution, saying it “may yet provide us with a desperately-needed model of humane governance for a third-world country.” Immediately after Sept. 11, 2001, longtime Nation contributor Robert Fisk complained that “terrorism” is a “racist” term.

It is no exaggeration to call groups such as MoveOn.org pro-appeasement. Further left on the political spectrum, the A.N.S.W.E.R. Coalition sympathizes with both Islamists and the Stalinist regime in North Korea — which is in league with Islamist Iran and its client state, Syria. Meanwhile, Hugo Chávez, the Bolivarian-socialist Venezuelan strongman, is developing a strategic alliance with Iran’s ruling mullahs and with Hezbollah, Iran’s terrorist proxy.

In a new book, United in Hate: The Left’s Romance with Tyranny and Terror, Jamie Glazov takes a hard look at this unholy alliance. A historian by training, Glazov is the son of dissidents who fled the Soviet Union only to find that, on American campuses, they were not welcomed by the liberal/Left lumpen professoriate.

Glazov’s book indicts artists and intellectuals of the Left — e.g. George Bernard Shaw, Bertolt Brecht, and Susan Sontag — for having “venerated mass murderers such as Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Castro, and Ho Chi Minh, habitually excusing their atrocities while blaming Americans and even the victims for their crimes.”

Following the fall of the Berlin Wall, the Left spent several years wandering in the wilderness. Many of them, Glazov suggests, looked upon the terrorist attacks of 9/11 less as an atrocity than as an opportunity to revive a moribund revolutionary movement.

Jimmy Carter, Michael Moore, Noam Chomsky, Ramsey Clark, Lynne Stewart, and Stanley Cohen are among the luminaries of the Left Glazov accuses of having found common ground with Islamists.

He notes that the novelist Norman Mailer called the 9/11 hijackers “brilliant” and their terrorism “understandable” because “everything wrong with America led to the point where the country built that tower of Babel which consequently had to be destroyed.”

Dario Fo, the Italian Marxist who won the 1997 Nobel Prize for literature, said that Wall Street speculators “wallow in an economy that every year kills tens of millions of people with poverty, so what is twenty thousand dead in New York?” Similarly, media mogul Ted Turner called the 9/11 terrorists “brave,” adding that “the reason that the World Trade Center got hit is because there are a lot of people living in poverty out there w

CHRISISALL

Wednesday, April 22, 2009 12:49 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:

The Left clearly continues to be inspired by its undying Marxist conviction that capitalism is evil and that forces of revolution are rising to overthrow it — and must be supported.” On that basis, militant Islamism is regarded as a “valiant form of ‘resistance’ against American imperialism and oppression.”

If such values as equality, tolerance, and human rights are crushed in the process, that’s a price many on the Left are willing to pay.

This describes a loony fringe portion of the left, not me & not my friends on the left.
You know the type, 'Rap- pushing agenda above individuals.

The laughing Chrisisall

AURAPTOR

Wednesday, April 22, 2009 12:51 AM

This describes you and your America hating friends who want to blame Bush for stuff that wouldn't even make the 1st round of FEAR FACTOR into 'torture' a crime , when all we're trying to do is defeat evil.

CHRISISALL

Wednesday, April 22, 2009 1:57 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
all we're trying to do is defeat evil.

Heh heh, listen Biped, Government, especially BIG Government, IS evil, and it's bigger now than ever, thanks in no small part to your boy Bush. I love my country- but you obviously don't love it enough to help correct it's occasional errors by not voting in the domestic threats to office.
It's the way of things, I suppose, and I don't really blame you, the Dark Side IS powerful.

The laughing Chrisisall

KWICKO

Wednesday, April 22, 2009 2:53 AM

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
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Well, it's certainly true that *I* approved of Congress more when Pelosi was out of the country...

Seems most folk on both sides did.

Next time, how bout we send her to mars!

-F

Hell no - there might be life up there! Why would you inflict her upon the helpless Martian life forms?

CHRISISALL

Wednesday, April 22, 2009 3:05 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:
Why would you inflict her upon the helpless Martian life forms?

Because they do not believe in the sanctity of Penthouse as we do!

We must INVADE!!!!!

The laughing Chrisisall

AURAPTOR

Wednesday, April 22, 2009 3:32 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
all we're trying to do is defeat evil.
Heh heh, listen Biped, Government, especially BIG Government, IS evil, and it's bigger now than ever, thanks in no small part to your boy Bush.

Made much MUCH worse by Obama , you must agree.
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I love my country- but you obviously don't love it enough to help correct it's occasional errors by not voting in the domestic threats to office.
So, Obama is a domestic threat ? I'll buy that.

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It's the way of things, I suppose, and I don't really blame you, the Dark Side IS powerful.

You just THINK you're more powerful. The Light is stronger still.

ANTHONYT

Wednesday, April 22, 2009 4:14 AM

Hello,

In reference to Congress' low approval ratings, the Democrats do have a lot to own up to. Even as we condemn the Red Menace we must acknowledge the Blue Buffoon.

To do less would be to view the situation with eyes wide shut. We have a situation where a person is shot ten times. The Democrats shot him eight times and the Republicans shot him twice. Shall the Democrats then get on the stand and point to the republicans saying, "They shot too?!"

Nay. Congress sucked hard. We own it, all of us, and those of us who had more dogs in the race own it worst of all. Otherwise we are, all of us, hypocrites.

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner