Breaking news - Obama admin will NOT press charges of 'TORTURE' on CIA agents.
POSTED BY: AURaptor
UPDATED: Thursday, April 23, 2009 21:59
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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Hello Kwicko,
This has not escaped me. But surely you know it takes even MORE will to go up the chain of command to the top than it does to off a few underlings?
If he doesn't have the will to prune the tree, I have no confidence in his ability to uproot it.
--Anthony
"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner
I hear ya, Anthony, I hear ya... And yes, I'm more than a little concerned about that. What REALLY concerns me is his "blanket amnesty" (in effect, if not in words) for the operatives involved. Hell, no negotiator, no interrogator, no detective, no cop out there worth his salt would throw away his trump card like that. Sure, you can offer to give the "little guy" a break, but only after he gives you the goods on the big fish up the river! To just come out and say that you're not going to pursue any case against the little fish tells the big fish they're in the clear, and that bugs the shit out of me.
Mike
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Who exactly did the U.S. torture to cause the 9/11 attacks ?
Must have been something Clinton did to really piss off the terrorist.
I think it goes back a bit further, to people like Bush I and Reagan...
Mike
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Must have been something Clinton did to really piss off the terrorist.
Again, I ask: Which one?
Why do you even reply if you're not interested in having a sincere debate of - ANYTHING ?
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Who exactly did the U.S. torture to cause the 9/11 attacks ?
Must have been something Clinton did to really piss off the terrorist.
I think it goes back a bit further, to people like Bush I and Reagan...
Mike
Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
Which is why Osama bin Ladin waited until 1998 to release his Fatwa / Jihad call of war on the West,and why CLINTON'S photo was what the terrorist were shooting at during a propaganda training video.
Yeah, Bush and Reagan.
You moron.
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Must have been something Clinton did to really piss off the terrorist.
Again, I ask: Which one?
Why do you even reply if you're not interested in having a sincere debate of - ANYTHING ?
Oh, but I *AM* interested in having a debate. Just tell me which terrorist is supposed to be pissed off at us, which one we're supposed to be fighting. You're the one that keeps insisting that there is only ONE terrorist - why else would you continually use the singular when referring to "the terrorist"? I've pointed it out more than a few times (closer to a few dozen at this point), so I can only ascertain that you really do think we're fighting one single person, and he's the one who has you so scared you're hiding under your bed.
So I really am interested in having a sincere debate - Which terrorist is it that has you so frightened?
Or as an alternative subject, why is it that you are serially unable to learn the proper plural form of words which end in "-ist"?
Take your pick, and debate away, you blithering idiot.
Mike
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Which is why Osama bin Ladin waited until 1998 to release his Fatwa / Jihad call of war on the West,and why CLINTON'S photo was what the terrorist were shooting at during a propaganda training video.
Yeah, Bush and Reagan.
You moron.
Funny, that fatwa was a direct result of American soldiers being stationed in Saudi Arabia during Gulf War I.
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In 1998, Osama bin Laden and Ayman al-Zawahiri co-signed a fatwa in the name of the World Islamic Front for Jihad Against Jews and Crusaders which declared the killing of the North Americans and their allies an "individual duty for every Muslim" to "liberate the holy mosque (in Mecca) from their grip".
From Wiki.
Looks like once again you got schooled by a moron, you poor deluded dolt.
Mike
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I've ignored your childish grammar nazi comments because it's not relevant to the issue. You think you're being clever and cute..... but in reality, you're doing the standard bullshit that the Left always does, ignore the bigger issues, and harp on trivial, meaningless minutiae for the sake of trivializing any issue brought up by those whom you disagree.
The MSM calls Americans who are upset at the massive debt and excessive spending by the Federal Imperial Gov't "teabaggers" , because they don't want any serious debate going on outside of their mecca, Washington D.C.
Janeane Garofalo calls all those who show up angry at the course of this country ' racist, teabagging rednecks' who simply hate a black man being in the White House. Nothing could be further from the truth, but that's simply how the Left rolls.
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So, wanting the Gov't to stem the tsunami of ILLEGAL immigrants now makes me an EXTREMIST ?
Exactly and every bit as much as speaking out against the war and speaking out against torture made ME an extremist.
You're against something illegal? Hey, me too!
Mike
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
You're a complete and total troll. I'm sorry for having wasted my time w/ you Sig. My problem is that while I've been trying to have a sincere and honest dialog, you've been simply playing the contrarian, and making light of this entire message board exercise.
I gave you a specific example from the actual report, showed you what it says, and you simply want to believe what you want. "Screw the Facts ", that's your motto.
Nothing you post is in the least bit honest or sincere. If I said the sky was blue, you'd call it orange and then say I was a liar.
I'm done w/ this game.
In other words, Rappy doesn't like to play by the rules he demands others play by, so he's taking his ball and going home!
Mike
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why CLINTON'S photo was what the terrorist were shooting at
Hell, when he started pushing that NAFTA shit, I put his mug on my dartboard!
That make ME a "terrorist" ?
And this shit goes well back to 1953 when we offed Mossedeigh.
Just cause WE have short memories about that kinda thing don't mean no one else does - our grandkids are likely enough to be payin dear still for the shit we're pulling NOW, and that just annoys the crap outta me.
Oh, and while we're debating torture, mind.
Anyone here care to compare the quality of the info we got outta Khalid Sheikh Mohammed in a by-the-book hands off, proper and legal interrogation, which netted us plenty of actionable intel which the alphabet boys pointedly IGNORED till well after the fact, which was fully corroborated by hard evidence also seized at the time via a properly issued and legally executed warrant...
And the laughable quality of his crazed rantings after waterboarding him A HUNDRED AND EIGHTY THREE TIMES ?
Shit man, he'd prolly "confess" to murdering the damn tooth fairy if you asked him at this point.
Which, of course, ruins much of the useful info he gave us originally cause the source (that being KSM) is no longer sane enough for anything coming from him to be credible, or even verified.
Way to go, intel boys, great job brownie...
Yet another total clusterfuck brought to you by the alphabet gang.
And on your tax dime too, as a bonus!
Again, the greatest threat to our national security...
is our National Security.
-Frem
It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it
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