Breaking news - Obama admin will NOT press charges of 'TORTURE' on CIA agents.
POSTED BY: AURaptor
UPDATED: Thursday, April 23, 2009 21:59
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I've ignored your childish grammar nazi comments because it's not relevant to the issue. You think you're being clever and cute.....
You've ignored my comments because you're honestly too fucking stupid to figure out how to write correctly. I don't think I'm being clever and cute - I think I'm trying to educate your backwoods stupid ass! And you so desperately need it, really.
But instead of learning the lesson and correcting your mistakes, you just bull on like the true and total troll you are.
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so he's taking his ball and going home!
I was unaware he had ANY balls, myself.
I'd require verification of that assessment prior to accepting it - you have a cite ?
-F
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Mike,
You're such a fucking dick head. Seriously. Among a laundry list of ridiculous, arbitrary bullshit that Osama listed in his ' fatwa' , that we came and kicked Saddam's ass was only the most recent. If you or anyone gives credence to that psychopathic killer, then you're as sick as he is / was or what ever.
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Never thought he would. Still don't think he'll go after anybody, inspite of a daily landslide of information about wiretaps, torture memos, etc. etc.
Note, he left the door open for people at the top, who authorized such activity to be charged.
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As to this issue, I suppose I'm torn between the Rorcrhek "black and white" of it and the Dr. Manhattan "analytical measurement of good vs. harm" approach to the issue.
Forgive me, I just came from the Watchmen thread.
We are at a particularly complicated juncture in American Politics.
We have rabid corruption in our government that has gone on for years, and got particularly wacky in the last 8. We have democrats and republicans who are implicated. Take Representative Harman as an example.
So many criminals, so much power that they still wield in our government.
and on top of it, we have a Ginormous financial crisis. The country's wheels have fallen off, and we're trying desperately to get some spares on it.
I'll admit that my assesment of the situation still leans towards optimism for Obama. There are plenty of more cynical interpretations, taht can be found on all sides of these issues.
I think that if we just take as an example, the 10's of people that came out for the tea-parties, a couple hundred thousand across the country or so? and the rabid talk about revolution, etc. that is being ginned up by the right-wing propaganda machine(and fox news has been nothing but a cheerleader for the tea-baggers)
the very party and the very mouthpiece that helped us get into this mess by not covering a damn thing that the Bush administration was doing,
I think those crowds could have been double or even tripple with prosecutions. Why? Because media in this country has come to be perceived as so partisan, that if Fox, and Limbaugh, etc. chose to cover prosecutions as a witch hunt, if they chose to wash over the facts, their converted would still believe them.
If they could add fuel to their low burning fire about a "totalitarian" Obamanation, by using prosecutions as examples of it, they could have something quite volatile in their hands. couple that with a Democratic Party that probably has a considerable handful of corrupt politicians in it, that would have to go down also,
I think that we would be hearing a sudden bi-partisan song about how Obama is politicizing the justice department, and enough people would believe it.
If nothing else, Obamas numbers would tank. In the midst of immediate crisis, he needs as much political capital as possible to pass legislation taht he thinks is neccesary.
I happen to think his policies are on the right track, though he's often appeasing the wrong crowd, who aren't going to side with him anyway. "H1-B visas are neccesary for us to remain competitive..." seriously?
which leads ultimately to the question...what is more important...
do we let everything burn, and hope that something emerges out of the ashes of a totally gridlocked congress and populace?
Or do we try to fix the urgent financial crisis, allowing that we may have truly turned the Constituion into just a piece of Paper, if not in idealism, in any meaningful authority...a door mat for future administrations...blah blah...
hmmm..I'm out of time to try to edit this...I'll just post as is.
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Mike,
That you think you're more intelligent than me and that's why you insist on harping on 1 missing letter instead of dealing w/ the bigger issue only shows what a true punk and gutless coward.
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Mike,
You're such a fucking dick head. Seriously. Among a laundry list of ridiculous, arbitrary bullshit that Osama listed in his ' fatwa' , that we came and kicked Saddam's ass was only the most recent. If you or anyone gives credence to that psychopathic killer, then you're as sick as he is / was or what ever.
Didn't you give him credence, just above, when you were talking about the fatwa and his training camps? Or do you only give credence to Osama when he's against Clinton?
More of your typical trollish truculence...
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You're a complete and total troll. I'm sorry for having wasted my time w/ you Sig. My problem is that while I've been trying to have a sincere and honest dialog, you've been simply playing the contrarian, and making light of this entire message board exercise.
I gave you a specific example from the actual report, showed you what it says, and you simply want to believe what you want. "Screw the Facts ", that's your motto.
Nothing you post is in the least bit honest or sincere. If I said the sky was blue, you'd call it orange and then say I was a liar.
I'm done w/ this game.
In other words, Rappy doesn't like to play by the rules he demands others play by,
Mike
No, I play by the rules I set out for myself and anyone else honest enough to play along. You're clearly not, so instead, you make federal cases out of common mistyped words, as if that's some how the be all/ end all indicator of the intellect of a person.
It isn't , not by a long shot, but you're such a fucking douche bag that you'd rather harp on THE most trivial of matters and ignore the over all points.
Yeah, you kinda are like Osama Bin Laden, come to think of it.
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Mike,
That you think you're more intelligent than me and that's why you insist on harping on 1 missing letter instead of dealing w/ the bigger issue only shows what a true punk and gutless coward.
Actually, it's not "1 missing letter" - it's one letter missing EVERY SINGLE TIME YOU TRY TO USE THE WORD! And that one missing letter changes the meaning of what you're trying to say. If you aren't interested in communicating more effectively, then I can't help you. You end up looking as sad and silly as WhoZit; if that's fine with you, so be it.
Mike
Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Didn't you give him credence, just above, when you were talking about the fatwa and his training camps? Or do you only give credence to Osama when he's against Clinton?
More of your typical trollish truculence...
Nope, I gave him zero credence, what so ever. I just mentioned his so called 'Fatwa'. He's killed a few folks since issuing that piece of crap, if you hadn't noticed.
You attempting to say I gave him any credence is just more of the same. Your bullshit , avoiding the issue, because you're too much of a punk.
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It isn't , not by a long shot, but you're such a fucking douche bag that you'd rather harp on THE most trivial of matters and ignore the over all points.
So when you say that Bush NEVER SAID "imminent threat", and are shown clearly where many in his administration, including his own spokespeople whose job it is to speak for the President, used just those words, and when you're shown that Bush himself used phrases like "grave threat", "urgent threat", and the like...
... you're saying that you AREN'T harping on the trivial details and ignoring the overall point?
Is that really how you want to play it?
Mike
Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
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