Breaking news - Obama admin will NOT press charges of 'TORTURE' on CIA agents.
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UPDATED: Thursday, April 23, 2009 21:59
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"Terrorist still at Gitmo."
Just one ? Then much progress has been made !
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Oh, yeah. And Rap ? You're delusional.
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Quote:No rappy, I said YOU were cheering the economy over a cliff. YOU were cheering on the policies that ran us into the ditch!
You said folks were CHEERING this economy over a cliff.
Quote:In this day and age of videocams, this is a provable statement. Care to have this particular delusion squashed?
Bush never said 'imminent threat'
Quote:Prove it. Show me how two guys who's party didn't control the committees, who couldn't either push legislation or prevent it if their life depended on it... SHOW ME WHAT THEY DID. Not what they "said"... anyone, everyone, can opine. Show me the committee minutes, the votes... ANYTHING that prove they did ANYTHING consequential during the Bush years. I double dog dare ya... 'cause I know you can't!
Barney Frank and Chris Dodd DID have power, and you need to take a refresher course in Civics, 101.
Quote:Oh yeah, a memo. That PROVES that "millions of people are being spied one". I can't believe YOU'RE that dense.
The D.H.S.'s memo that's been all over the news this week, hon. Google it, if you're really that dense
Oh, wait... Yes, I can!
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Originally posted by rue:
Oh, yeah. And Rap ? You're delusional.
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I'm right. You know it. You're just too full of false pride and partisan bullshit to admit it.
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Never happened. I never cheered for the forcing of banks to give loans to folks who couldn't pay for them. Not once, not ever.
You made the claim, now you back it up. Bush said it ? Where?
You don't have to control the committees to affect the outcome of how things move through Congress.
I never said millions of folks were being SPIED on. I said they were made de facto enemies of the state, for no other reason than because of their POLITICS. Bush never did that. Ever.
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Quote:Well, that wasn't what I was referring to. But since you brought it up... Show me that banks were "forced" to give loans to people who couldn't afford them. NOT that case from Chicago, which forced banks to treat blacks with equal credit histories and incomes same as whites.
Never happened. I never cheered for the forcing of banks to give loans to folks who couldn't pay for them. Not once, not ever.
Quote:I have cited the same article at least five times. Urgent threat. Mortal and growing threat. Imminent threat... ring any bells? Of course not. 'Cause you're all about the facts (snicker)
You made the claim, now you back it up. Bush said it ? Where?
Quote:Oh, you don't? How???
You don't have to control the committees to affect the outcome of how things move through Congress.
Quote:What you said was
I never said millions of folks were being SPIED on. I said they were made de facto enemies of the state, for no other reason than because of their POLITICS. Bush never did that. Ever.
Quote:Oh, targeted? Enemies of the state*? Who? How? Give me names. Give me organizations. Give me activities. Show me what the government has actually DONE. YOU want proof of how the government has targeted the left wing for purely political reasons? Well, you've been given names and actions. Now, you provide the same. Out of those "millions" of Americans, surely you can find a couple dozen names, a witness or two... You're all about the facts, right? Come up with some!
Meanwhile, MILLIONS of Americans who really are freedom loving believers in the U.S. constitution are now targeted by the Government in a PURELY political move, and you folks think that turn about is fair play, or that this is even remotely o.k. ?
Oh, and I forgot to address this:
Quote:Everything in that post is sheer supposition. Not a fact to be found anywhere. I know, 'cause I looked! It's funny, you take one comment in a memo directed at right-wing EXTREMISTS and blow it all the hell out of proportion to apply to "millions" of freedom-loving people being "enemies of the state" and yet you completely ignore a stated policy by Obama. Explain THAT, if you can, Mr-All -About-The-Facts!
Trust me those guys will be treated exactly the same. Why ? Because they weren't MIStreated in the 1st place.
heh heh heh
*An enemy of the state is a person accused of certain crimes against the state, such as treason.
Yes, clearly, millions of people have been formally accused of treason or sedition, and they're about to go on trial right now! QUICK, RAPPY! SET UP A LEGAL DEFENSE FUND! NOW, IF YOU COULD ONLY FIND SOMEONE TO DEFEND!
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Rappy, you're funny!
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So rapo, I've decided that since YOU demand "proof" so often ("proof" that Bush said "imminent threat" "proof" there weren't current WMD in Iraq etc.) you should be held to YOUR standards.
So far, you have failed to back up your statements with credible, verifiable fact.
Which, as everyone knows, is what you're all about. 
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Quote:I knew you'd come back w/ that sort of nonsensical reply. But you're overlooking a KEY elemeent here. Iraq was TRYING to keep their WMD a secret. What YOU'VE claimed isn't in the least bit any great secret. Either Bush said it, or he didn't. You've not shown where he DID say it, ergo......
Originally posted by SignyM:
So rapo, I've decided that since YOU demand "proof" so often ("proof" that Bush said "imminent threat" "proof" there weren't current WMD in Iraq etc.) you should be held to YOUR standards.
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So far, you have failed to back up your statements with credible, verifiable fact.
That's my line to you. And you're STILL failing.
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Sigy
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Excerpts from the Dept. of Homeland Security:
LEFTwing Extremism:
Current Economic and Political
Climate Fueling Resurgence in
Radicalization and Recruitment
LEFTwing extremists have capitalized on the election of a CONSERVATIVE president, and are focusing their efforts to recruit new
members, mobilize existing supporters, and broaden their scope and appeal
through propaganda, but they have not yet turned to attack planning.
Returning veterans possess combat skills and experience that are
attractive to LEFTtwing extremists. DHS/I&A is concerned that LEFTwing
extremists will attempt to recruit and radicalize returning veterans in order to
boost their violent capabilities.
Just how loud would the wailing and gnashing of teeth have been had the above report been leaked by the D.H.S. ???
You babbled on about WHO has been targeted ? I have, for one. Where ? READ -
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Over the past five years, various rightwing extremists, ... have adopted the immigration issue as a call to action, rallying point,
and recruiting tool.
So, wanting the Gov't to stem the tsunami of ILLEGAL immigrants now makes me an EXTREMIST ? Oh, it gets beter!
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Debates over appropriate immigration levels and enforcement policy
generally fall within the realm of protected political speech under the First Amendment,
but in some cases, anti-immigration or strident pro-enforcement fervor has been directed
against specific groups and has the potential to turn violent.
Gee, GENERALLY such debates are protected ?? That's nice of the D.H.S folks to at least acknowledge THAT part. But then, it goes on further to suggest that ENFORCING THE LAWS on specific groups ( like MAYBE such groups as MS-13, among a list of others ? ) has a potential for violence ?? Gee, we'd better not enforce the laws then, if things are going to get violent!
Try to better educate yourself with reading the document here
http://michellemalkin.cachefly.net/michellemalkin.com/wp/wp-content/up
loads/2009/04/hsa-rightwing-extremism-09-04-07.pdf
If you still have questions after, come look me up.
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Quote:Do you know an example when you see one? Apparently not! I wasn't restricting my comments to WMD, but to require that you prove ALL of your statements!
So rapo, I've decided that since YOU demand "proof" so often ("proof" that Bush said "imminent threat" "proof" there weren't current WMD in Iraq etc.) you should be held to YOUR standards.
Quote:What, requiring that you prove your statements? How is that nonsensical? Difficult, maybe, but you've made a lot of statements so... better get going! You've got a lot of ground to make up!
I knew you'd come back w/ that sort of nonsensical reply.
And, speaking of nonsensical... Quote:How do you keep something that DOESN'T EXIST a secret?
Iraq was TRYING to keep their WMD a secret
Which reminds me...
So, you don't have any proof that conservatives are being targeted? Or being called "enemies of the state?" No wiretaps? No indictments? No charges of treason? No interference in banking accounts? Nobody on the no-fly list? Nobody being called "un-American" in public? No death sentences for treason?
What a shame... for a second I thought you had a point!
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