Breaking news - Obama admin will NOT press charges of 'TORTURE' on CIA agents.
POSTED BY: AURaptor
UPDATED: Thursday, April 23, 2009 21:59
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Quote:Follow the Coyote, please.
Originally posted by AURaptor:
You already went there, I just followed.
The laughing Chrisisall
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Yeah, nice try. 
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Quote:I schooled you, boy.
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Yeah, nice try.
The laughing Chrisisall
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No, you only think you did. But just like Obama agreeing w/ Bush on the matter of "torture" ( there was none ) , you are WRONG.
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Originally posted by chrisisall:Quote:No, Mr. Genius, it means that Obama is playing the Washington Game by the rules.
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Does this not give you one moment for pause ? Maybe, that if even if Mr Obamarrific himself won't pursue charges on the issue of torture, that maybe, JUST maybe, Bush and Cheney weren't as evil as the Left had tried to paint?
Two years ago already I had a very smart lawyer friend of mine in the States enumerate all impeachable and/or felonious offences committed by Bush and his cronies (like Rumsfeld, Dick Cheney, etc.) The list was long: VERY long. Problem only is, that going after each and every one of these crimes is -- way it was explained to me -- pretty much deemed undoable within the Democratic party. Republicans have cashey money, so they'd likely stall the process for as long as they could, appeal after appeal; well over the 4-years barrier, at least. And then you basically just spent 4 years engaged in witchhunt-looking stuff, insteading of building up the country again. Not so good for votes.
Waterboarding, while reprehensible, was considered legal under, and sanctioned by, Bush and his administration. So, to go after these folks who did the actual boarding inevitably means also prosecuting way up the chain (as their attorneys will no doubt say their actions were approved by the brass). And I rightfully think that's not feasible; not politically, at least. So, the gnashing of my teeth despite, seems you Republicans got a few freebies. Enjoy them: the world is entirely more vigilent to your shenanigans, come next round.
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PLEASE ENTER RAPO'S FACT-FREE ZONE. WATCH YOUR HEAD:
Quote:ACTUALLY, rapo, he's NOT "carrying on". He has ALREADY rescinded Bush's policy about "aggressive interrogation techniques" and no decision has been made as to whether it constitutes torture or not.
What's to like ? There's a REASON why he's carrying on , just like Bush, on this matter. While Mr Obamarrific has no problems making SWEEPING changes in most other areas of Government, he's sorta changed his tune on such matters on how to treat terrorist. Sure, we might not call them that any more, but we'll sure TREAT them the same.
I believe the decision was made on the rationale that the CIA operatives were following the legal advice of the Bush Administration (following orders in other words). HOWEVER- if CIA operatives were found to have EXCEEDED the subject memos they WILL be prosecuted.
No, what REALLY sucks is Obama's claim to "state secrets" on the widespread wiretapping case currently before the courts. And the new FISA bill, which Dems rolled on in deference to pissy-pants like YOU, which allows widespread eavesdropping without warrants/ court review.
Man, I hope they tap the phones of all of those right-wing nut-jobs who "thought" that breach of rights would only apply to "others"... and then land them in some distant foreign country's jail where they will be detained without charges while being "aggressively interrogated". Maybe they'll come out with a greater appreciation for what "rule of law" means.
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
No, you only think you did. But just like Obama agreeing w/ Bush on the matter of "torture" ( there was none ) , you are WRONG.
I don't think that came out AT ALL like you hoped it would. What you just to Chris is, "like Obama agreeing with Bush on torture, you are WRONG."
Might want to see to that.
Mike
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Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
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Man, I hope they tap the phones of all of those right-wing nut-jobs who "thought" that breach of rights would only apply to "others"... and then land them in some distant foreign country's jail where they will be detained without charges while being "aggressively interrogated". Maybe they'll come out with a greater appreciation for what "rule of law" means.
Yup - when they take a few of those right-wing extremists they're on the lookout for, and torture them, I'm sure 'Rappy the Wonder Dog will still see no problem there. Until they come for him, of course.
Mike
Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
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Quote:Yeah, I must agree. You can't really go after the peeps who did what was legally asked of them, but by God(s), I wish the peeps who CALLED these actions legal could be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Sadly, the golden rule applies here.
Originally posted by asarian:
Waterboarding, while reprehensible, was considered legal under, and sanctioned by, Bush and his administration. So, to go after these folks who did the actual boarding inevitably means also prosecuting way up the chain (as their attorneys will no doubt say their actions were approved by the brass). And I rightfully think that's not feasible; not politically, at least. So, the gnashing of my teeth despite, seems you Republicans got a few freebies.
The laughing Chrisisall
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if CIA operatives were found to have EXCEEDED the subject memos they WILL be prosecuted.
Fine by me. That's only what should be done.
The biggest problem I have w/ them tapping MY phones is that I'm not worth their time, and they could be spending it tracking down some Achkmed or William Ayers who really DOES have a history of blowing things up.
Funny. Ayres really WAS a terrorist, and the media barely thought it worth a mention. Meanwhile, MILLIONS of Americans who really are freedom loving believers in the U.S. constitution are now targeted by the Government in a PURELY political move, and you folks think that turn about is fair play, or that this is even remotely o.k. ?
Your irrational anger and pointless hatred has clearly unhinged you.
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