Sorry, why is whether Obama bowed to the Saudi King an issue again?
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When the W H says there was no bow, when the rest of the world all saw him bow, that leaves us to wonder at his motives. Since a bow is seen by most modern cultures as a subservient gesture, and no other explanation is given, how else to explain it? Very odd , it is, if nothing else.
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"Since a bow is seen by most modern cultures as a subservient gesture ..."
Except when dubya does it ?
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Pizmo
What I posted was the one FREE original source on the internet. If you are willing to pay for material from various archives, there is more.
Despite how you want to confuse the issue - it DOES show Bush kissing Crown Prince (now king) Abdullah. Does it not ?
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Originally posted by rue:
Pizmo
What I posted was the one FREE source on the internet. If you are willing to pay for material from various archives, there is more.
Eh, pass. It's fake, it's unreal, it is in fact a dead parrot - just trust me (and PhoenixRose) on this. I trust you on the politics and chemistry, trust me on this.
How about this for an explanation:
The G20 summit was 'Bama's first one. It's one thing to wow folk with speeches, and another to hang with 19 other world leaders. He was under immense pressure. He must have been nervous. He was also very tired (did you see his schedule??) and he got his protocols mixed up. In short, he made a flub.
Since the rep party is on life support they will try and make something out of any thing they can. Which is perfect since it will be their own undoing - it will only attract equally desperate and dim characters to their party.
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So Bush has NEVER kissed Crown Prince Abdullah ?
Yes or No.
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Originally posted by HKCavalier:Quote:
Originally posted by AnthonyT:
...the photo's providence
Hey Anthony, when you say "providence" don't you mean provenance? I don't mean to get all grammar police on ya, just a big fan of the word provenance.
HKCavalier
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You are quite right, Mr. Cavalier. :-)
--Anthony
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Originally posted by rue:
So Bush has NEVER kissed Crown Prince Abdullah ?
Yes or No.
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Rue,
The question is more aptly phrased, "So Bush has NEVER kissed Crown Prince Abdullah on the lips as depicted in the photo?"
And the answer is probably no.
It's okay to be wrong about something. I'm often wrong. You're still a great gal with amazing insight and often well-researched arguments.
--Anthony
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We're not trying to confuse the issue, Rue. I already said the video clearly shows cheek kissing. The tonsil-hockey picture, though, is a clumsy photoshop. I plan to make my living with that program, I know it when I see it. So while the video is a legitimate source, the photo is not. And that is what will confuse the issue, because those who can tell will question the legitimacy of all reports of any kind of kissing if there are images used that are not legit. Why do you think I can never take piratenews seriously? He's posted so many heavily altered images that there's just no credibility there. It's like the now-defunct Weekly World News, it's just laughable. You don't want to end up in that kind of category.
I'm trying to help you out, here. Don't get tetchy.
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Hello Auraptor,
"Since a bow is seen by most modern cultures as a subservient gesture..."
This premise is incorrect. A bow is as often a sign of respect as it is a subservient gesture. Peers bow to each other in many modern cultures. That is, equals bow to one another in a show of mutual respect.
Do you believe that Obama was demonstrating his subservience to a foreign head of state?
If you believe that, I can see you becoming alarmed.
However, I do not agree with this interpretation. I am much more inclined to believe he was making a gesture of respect. It is possible that this gesture was a breach of protocol, but I see no insidiousness in it.
--Anthony
"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner
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Originally posted by rue:
So Bush has NEVER kissed Crown Prince Abdullah ?
Yes or No.
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As Kwicko once said, Google is our friend. I tried finding any reference to your picture.
What I did find was the actual picture from which the one you posted is an obvious chop job. Why can't you admit that? Kissed him on the cheeks, yes. That's obvious from the video and is an acceptable greeting in most foreign countries.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/klipsch_fan/1411506021/
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