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Sorry, why is whether Obama bowed to the Saudi King an issue again?

POSTED BY: AURaptor
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Tuesday, April 14, 2009 11:35 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:


My god, just take what these guys are saying and listen for yourself. THEY'RE the ones who say it. Hell, don't blame me if you can't take the truth.



In other words, take these guys' word for it, and don't dare question conclusions that Rappy the WonderDog agrees with!

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I'd say it's a gaffe, but then we're reminded that Obama went to Harvard, and is simply too smart to gaffe THIS badly. He HAD to know what he was doing. It clearly means he meant to show subservience to the King, not just respect.

Very strange. But then, what do we REALLY know about this guy?




Yes, since Obama is a Smart Person™, it's categorically impossible for him to ever do anything wrong. Oh, wait... Didn't Dubya go to Harvard as well?

There goes THAT theory...

As for what we REALLY know about this guy - well, obviously Rappy knows EVERYTHING about him. He knows everything Obama knows, exactly what his every intention is with every move he makes; he even knows how Obama FEELS!

How else can you explain claims that "he HAD to know...", "It CLEARLY means..."

Of course, it could also mean that this proves that Obama's a Muslim. Better get right on that - Fetch, Rappy, FETCH!

Mike

Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

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Tuesday, April 14, 2009 12:20 PM

mike,
Why can't you just take what the old guard, Lib biased media says?
Why attack me? I just post the facts, I didn't make them up.

If you have an issue with Tom or Charlie, don't fire at me because it upsets you. Take a moment and think about what they are saying.





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Tuesday, April 14, 2009 12:25 PM

Because the far right biased American media often lies. Just like many of those that call it liberally biased, in order to further those lies and give them credence.

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Tuesday, April 14, 2009 1:13 PM

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Originally posted by rue:
AnthonyT:
Hello,
What is the providence of the kissy-face photo?
pizmobeach:
That would be by way of Adobe Photoshop.

Ehhh ... pizomo, you missed the boat on that one (as a minute doing a google search would have revealed). The source is CNN.

http://imagesource.cnn.com/imagesource/player.swf?streamer=rtmp://isfm
s.cnn.com/vod&file=mp4:895/05281895&type=video&controlbar=none&autostart=true&width=480&height=324


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Rue, yes check that video - it takes place indoors, while the image you posted is outside - so something is askew. Also, clearly the cnn footage shows them kissing on (face) cheeks, while the modified, 'shopped image has them doing a lip hummer. Physically speaking, in that still there's no place the Saudi's schnoz can go - hence, unreal. My boat is yet unmissed.

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Tuesday, April 14, 2009 1:50 PM

Hello,

I agree that the photo's providence is deeply uncertain, and that its depiction is very different from the CNN video provided.

On the issue of the Brokaw (sp?) quote, I have to say that Auraptor is taking the quote to mean what he wishes it to mean. They said, essentially, "we know very little about this man." And he is taking it to mean, "we know very little about this man, and hence anything could be true about him, like that he is a secret muslim and worships saudi kings."

Which is quite a leap from the one to the other. An unmerited leap, in my opinion.

--Anthony


"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

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Tuesday, April 14, 2009 2:07 PM

Rap,

If you think I'm "taking a shot at you" for this, it's only because in one breath you claim that nobody knows anything about Obama, and in the very next breath you claim that "clearly" he "HAD to" be bowing in subservience.

You've seen the same video and pictures others have, and you're 100% certain of what YOU saw. Others are less so.

Now, either we know the man and his motives, or we don't.

What you're trying to do is take what you DON'T know about Obama, mix that in with something you've seen which you don't like, and make the veiled implication that there's very much more that WE don't know, but which YOU can devine because of your superior powers of observation. Or your already well-known biases against the man. Whichever is more applicable.

If we don't know the man, then we can have no idea what his motives and machinations really are. To say not only WHAT he's doing, but WHY, indicates that you somehow know far more about the man than anyone else - even the so-called "experts" who read the news from a teleprompter!

It's not an attack on YOU; it's an attack on your methodology. There's a difference.

Of course, for "attacking" you, I'm sure you'll show us all what a great debater you are by calling me a "fucking dumb ass" or an idiot, as you generally do when an argument isn't going your way.

Mike

Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

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Tuesday, April 14, 2009 2:13 PM

And by the way, Rappy:

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Why can't you just take what the old guard, Lib biased media says?



Seriously? Really? You're going to sit there and ask me that question in what's supposedly a serious discussion?

I'll make a deal with you: I'll take the "liberal media" at face value and believe everything they say when you do the same.

Deal?

I thought you were supposed to be a "true skeptic"; I thought you questioned everything, especially if it came from the liberal media.

I guess that only applies when they say things critical of conservatives...


Mike

Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

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Tuesday, April 14, 2009 3:25 PM

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
...the photo's providence


Hey Anthony, when you say "providence" don't you mean provenance? I don't mean to get all grammar police on ya, just a big fan of the word provenance.

HKCavalier

Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.

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Tuesday, April 14, 2009 4:10 PM

It's Browkaw and Rose TELLIING us what THEY think! It's not an issue of whether we agree or not, it's their own views! What the hell does face value have to do with anything here????? Nothing! That's what!



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Tuesday, April 14, 2009 4:15 PM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:

Of course, for "attacking" you, I'm sure you'll show us all what a great debater you are by calling me a "fucking dumb ass" or an idiot, as you generally do when an argument isn't going your way.


Yeah, but he does that every single time, oh no wait I get it, nevermind...

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