Sorry, why is whether Obama bowed to the Saudi King an issue again?
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You gave no basis to ignore the Rose / Brokaw video, other than I'm the the one posting it. Give credible reasons why you disagree, or grow the hell up.
C'mon, Rappy, tell me you've never dismissed a source I've posted, just because it was *ME* posting it.
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
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How is that remotely a troll post ?? The point is crystal clear. WATCH the gorram video! You're being childish and immature on purpose, for no other reason but to be obtuse and dismissive. You gave no basis to ignore the Rose / Brokaw video, other than I'm the the one posting it. Give credible reasons why you disagree, or grow the hell up.
Um, Obama's positions on the various issues Rose/Brokaw bring up were available from Obama's website throughout the campaign. Though it's possible that R/B are completely out to lunch on this, I rather got the impression that their conversation was about the MSM coverage of Obama during the campaign--in that context "we" know next to nothing about him, the MSM focusing on anything and everything except policy. But elements within the conservative movement thought it would further their cause to present these snippets of the Rose/Brokaw interview to foment suspision about Obama's "real identity."
It's really
sad, and AURaptor, you should stop it. Knowledge of Obama's positions has been available to anyone who is genuinely interested for years now.
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Why ? I got no idea why, but he most definitely did bow.
Oh, I missed this one. So you have no answer as to "why" he bowed, but the more interesting question, the one you CAN answer is, "What does it mean to you if he did bow?"
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Why ? I got no idea why, but he most definitely did bow.
Oh, I missed this one. So you have no answer as to "why" he bowed, but the more interesting question, the one you CAN answer is, "What does it mean to you if he did bow?"
HKCavalier
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He should not have bowed. Every Sand-Dancer on earth wacks off to the video of Obama doing so. Even before they beat their wives or rub their daughter's faces in the humps of camals.......Well, it's true..........
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How is that remotely a troll post ?? The point is crystal clear. WATCH the gorram video! You're being childish and immature on purpose, for no other reason but to be obtuse and dismissive. You gave no basis to ignore the Rose / Brokaw video, other than I'm the the one posting it. Give credible reasons why you disagree, or grow the hell up.
I have seen it. Back when you first latched onto it as your banner. My opinion remains unchanged, that it's meaningless. And in the context of this discussion - all it ammounts to is you Obama trolling.
And you telling others to grow up is cute.
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AnthonyT:
Hello,
What is the providence of the kissy-face photo?
pizmobeach:
That would be by way of Adobe Photoshop.
Ehhh ... pizomo, you missed the boat on that one (as a minute doing a google search would have revealed). The source is CNN.
http://imagesource.cnn.com/imagesource/player.swf?streamer=rtmp://isfm
s.cnn.com/vod&file=mp4:895/05281895&type=video&controlbar=none&autostart=true&width=480&height=324
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The photo is clearly photoshopped. Clearly. I mean, it's not even elegantly done. There's a sharp line cutting off part of Dubya's suit, and the mustache has been clumsily altered with the smear tool and looks like it's coming more from Dubya's nose than the king's face. I could have done a better edit in my sleep.
The video, now, does clearly show some cheek-kissing, which I assume to be some formality that's acceptable, along with hand-holding, where a stumble-bow is not. Trained I may be in the ninja art of photoshoppery, but these nuances of protocol aren't something I've studied.
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HK, I guess you're just as blind as the rest of them. These guys come right out and SAY they don't know, and you expect me to buy some crap on Obama's web site ? That stuff is nothing but P.R. What they were TALKING about is a history of how this guy , Obama, thinks, any sort of body of work that ANY one can look at and conclude where he gets his foreign policy concepts.
My god, just take what these guys are saying and listen for yourself. THEY'RE the ones who say it. Hell, don't blame me if you can't take the truth.
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"What does it mean to you if he did bow?
It looks ridiculous , for one. How he did it and the fact that he did it. He looks like a child , to be quite honest. I'd say it's a gaffe, but then we're reminded that Obama went to Harvard, and is simply too smart to gaffe THIS badly. He HAD to know what he was doing. It clearly means he meant to show subservience to the King, not just respect. Even Muslim reporters saw this for what it was, a bow, and THEY even admit confusion. No Muslim bows to any save for Allah, so they just must be tickled at the whole affair.
Very strange. But then, what do we REALLY know about this guy?
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Story, your insistence of ignoring the facts doesn't make me a troll, in the least. So sorry. You remain "unconvinced" simply because it was me who posted it, but the facts are there, undeniable. Seriously, grow up and get a spine. Dismissing hard cold fact as anyone 'trolling' is the most pathetic display of insecurity and intellectual dishonesty I've seen by the Left in a long time. And that's saying A LOT!
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Originally posted by rue:
This is what caught my eye - he was leaning somewhere between the two men. In fact, the king had to turn to his right (an action completed in this picture - originally the king was facing at right angles to Obama's 'greeting'.). It looks awkward to me - not like it was directed at the king at all.
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The whole thing looks a little strange, no matter what direction you're looking at it. In this photo, yes, it looks like he's bowing . . . somewhere. It's hard to figure out. But he's certainly not looking anyone in the eye. I don't think it would have been such a big deal if he simply bent over to see the man eye to eye, but this does look like a subservient bow because he goes pretty low and he's got his head down, eyes to the floor. I'll have to look at the video again to make a better decision. I could go along with Hannity and the like, but it's just a little too odd. If he did goof and stumble, the White House should admit it. If he did BOW even by accident or not thinking it through clearly enough, admit it as a gaffe and move on. One thing that is being said by Hannity is that if the bow is not such a big deal as some on the left are claiming, then why would the White House be denying it so adamantly? They could have said, "Yes, he was bowing to show his respect and blah, blah, blah." That makes a bit of sense, but still . . .
I'm not sure what happened here.
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