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Sorry, why is whether Obama bowed to the Saudi King an issue again?

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Friday, April 10, 2009 9:06 PM

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The US president is subservient to his international bankster overloads, as are all non-royal heads of state.

You know it's bad when PN is the author of one of the more sensible comments in the thread.

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RUE
Friday, April 10, 2009 9:13 PM

Hey, if he could kiss Hu Jintao's butt and make a difference in Chinese support of the US dollar and economy, he probably would.

I think right now he's trying to placate anyone with US dollars, US debt, and vital resources.

Sadly, that includes the bankers.

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Friday, April 10, 2009 10:05 PM

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Originally posted by rue:
So, Rap

What you're saying is Bush can bow to anyone, can hold hands with men, even kiss them on the lips, and grope a female head of state at a meeting - and it's ALL OK ! with you.

Think before you answer.

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Rue, per usual, you're avoiding the question, refusing to answer, and trying to turn it into something completely unrelated.

This thread isn't about Bush. He's no longer in office, and he didn't bow to the King of a Muslim country.

Obama did.

To bow is to show subservience towards another. Save for Japan, where bowing is a cultural necessity, no other society expects other heads of state to bow to their leaders. Even Muslims only bow to Allah, and no other.

No one bows to the King, and yet Obama did.

Why do you think he did, and why is the W.H. lying that it was NOT a bow.

It clearly was.



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Friday, April 10, 2009 10:07 PM

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Well, Bush bowed to the POPE for god's sake! So CLEARLY our Army is now part of the Vatican Guard!
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He and the W.H. Are lying. The question is " why "?
To drive you even more nuts than you already are?

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Quite possibly, that's their thinking. If so,it shows Obama has less respect for the office than even Clinton. Which is saying a lot.

Sure, he digs being in power, but respect the office ? Not so much.



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Friday, April 10, 2009 10:34 PM

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Quite possibly, that's their thinking.
So Obama bowed to the Saudi King just to drive you crazy? Isn't that just a mite self-centered?

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RUE
Friday, April 10, 2009 10:45 PM

"Rue, per usual, you're avoiding the question, refusing to answer, and trying to turn it into something completely unrelated."

What's unrelated ? According to you it's ALL about behaving well as president - right ? Then, shouldn't EVERY president be held to the same standard ? Because, that's what it's about - PRESIDENTS behaving well, no matter what their name or party.

Did Bush's bowing to the Pope not suffice ? The Pope is a head of state btw, and an adherent of a religion different from mainstream America. How about Bush's groping of Merkel ? When that happened, did you hold Bush to a high standard ? If not, why do you hold Obama to a higher standard than Bush ?

Now, to be clear, where I'm going is this: if you don't hold each president to the same standard, then why should we not assume all you are doing is a partisan attack ?

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Friday, April 10, 2009 10:59 PM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
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Quite possibly, that's their thinking.
So Obama bowed to the Saudi King just to drive you crazy? Isn't that just a mite self-centered?

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That he bowed isn't in question. Why they're saying he didn't is , you MUST admit, quite odd. The 'driving the right crazy' is every bit as plausible as any other excuse.

After all the talk that he was a Muslim during the campaign, maybe this was his way of poking his detractors. Sadly, it's going a great way to show us up. If so, he didn't take into consideration how it would look to the rest of the world. Which would fall in line w/ my view that he simply doesn't respect the office, at all.

But who knows ? No one really knows who this guy really is. Obama is the least vetted man for the office of President in U.S. history. No one knows what HIS " core beliefs " really are. Even U.S. journalist have said as such.



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Friday, April 10, 2009 11:23 PM

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Even U.S. journalist have said as such.


Which one?

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RUE
Friday, April 10, 2009 11:28 PM

"That he bowed isn't in question."

Actually, he was 'bowing' in a different direction than Saudi King Abdullah. Obama was deflected off to his left, and Saudi King Abdullah was deflected off to his right (he actually turned to face the third person when Obama leaned in a different direction), both toward a third person who was off to the side. If it was a bow, it was a strange one, as normally one would bow in the direction of the person one is bowing to.

What I find so perplexing is WHY YOU CARE so much about what Obama does. What is it about Obama doing something you can't stomach that you find so acceptable when Bush did it ?

Can you answer that ?

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Friday, April 10, 2009 11:32 PM

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Why do you think he did, and why is the W.H. lying that it was NOT a bow.

It clearly was.



Maybe they were lying because Iraq was an "imminent threat" that wasn't really very urgent, except when it was.

Or maybe you can't PROVE that they knew if it was a bow or not, so therefore they aren't technically lying.

Or are they not allowed to use RapLogic™?



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