AURaptor, I have a contusion.

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CHRISISALL

Friday, April 10, 2009 5:12 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
In your mind, you have us all figured out. We don’t share your point of view, so we are delusional nutcases.

Oh Finn, there you go again, telling peeps what's what. This has ever been your way, though, tellin' peeps that you disagree with who and what they are (just to be fair, you're not the only one here that does that, but you seem to believe that you don't...).
Sigy nailed it, I believe : "You go off track because you have deep contradictions within your own thinking that you can't acknowldge (btw, you spelled that wrong, Sig)."
You seem to believe that your way of processing info is better than those that disagree with you, or that you have more info to process, or whatever, but you are just another brighter than average mind on this board. And when faced with a logical and righteous criticism of your arguments, you deflect, and it seems that you don't even know that you do it.
Anyway, don't take this all so seriously, Finn.

"You have it all figured out." See, that's not the case, with ANYONE here. We ask questions to get answers (most of us

), when we get bs we call it. We're all full of it sometimes. We need to be told is all.

The laughing Chrisisall

BIGDAMNNOBODY

Friday, April 10, 2009 6:23 PM

Mr. Isall, you are full of bs.

CHRISISALL

Friday, April 10, 2009 6:28 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by BigDamnNobody:
Mr. Isall, you are full of bs.

I am?
*whew*
Thanks BDM, I was beginning to develop a superiority complex there, kudos for keepin' me real!

The laughing Chrisisall

BIGDAMNNOBODY

Friday, April 10, 2009 6:31 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Thanks BDM, I was beginning to develop a superiority complex there, kudos for keepin' me real!

Actually it's BDN. Thought I'd beat Kwicko to the punch.

CHRISISALL

Friday, April 10, 2009 6:33 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by BigDamnNobody:

Actually it's BDN. Thought I'd beat Kwicko to the punch.

Understandable Human fallibility has been replaced with extreme self-doubt!
I do not deserve to live!

The laughing Chrisisall

BLUESUNCOMPANYMAN

Friday, April 10, 2009 6:42 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Oh Finn, there you go again, telling peeps what's what. This has ever been your way, though, tellin' peeps that you disagree with who and what they are (just to be fair, you're not the only one here that does that)

Indeed. Wouldn't you agree I do it also?

CHRISISALL

Friday, April 10, 2009 6:45 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by bluesuncompanyman:
Wouldn't you agree I do it also?

We all do. It's what we fall back on when we're unhappy with an explanation of disagreement.

The laughing Chrisisall

CHRISISALL

Friday, April 10, 2009 6:52 PM

What's the matter BSCM? My candor a little disarming?

The laughing Chrisisall

SIGNYM

Friday, April 10, 2009 6:54 PM

Finn, I'm hoping you'll come back with examples of what you think is unfair or irrational argument on my part. I might possibly deserve a big kick in the pants.

BTW- IMHO Kwicko is not a troll. He's basically reflecting the same logic back to various posters. It SHOULD cause a moment of self-reflection, but... that seems to be beyond comprehension for some.

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It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine.

JONGSSTRAW

Friday, April 10, 2009 6:59 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
It SHOULD cause a moment of self-reflection, but... that seems to be beyond comprehension for some.

Whew! That was close....almost looked for a minute like we'd be spared some of your laughable condescension today, ya hypocrite twit.

CHRISISALL

Friday, April 10, 2009 7:00 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
Finn, I'm hoping you'll come back with examples of what you think is unfair or irrational argument on my part. I might possibly deserve a big kick in the pants.

Kick in the pants? For what?

Hey- here's one, my great friend & I had a discussion about eating meat a long time ago. I was like, me asking if he cared about animals, if they had souls, if he'd eat his cat- that sort of thing. He came back with "I just like eating meat."
Simple, truthful, direct. His like of eating meat was his overriding consideration on the subject.
If only most peeps could be that truthful, eh?

The laughing Chrisisall

SIGNYM

Friday, April 10, 2009 7:00 PM

Jong- Whatever.

Chris- Maybe I DO deserve a kick in the pants! I dunno... Finn seems to think so anyway. So, I'll see if he comes up with anything.

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It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine.

RUE

Friday, April 10, 2009 7:00 PM

OOOHHhhh lookit!

Jong's trying to let us have it !

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Silence is consent.

CHRISISALL

Friday, April 10, 2009 7:01 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
ya hypocrite twit.

Without condescension, posting itself, would be impossible.

The laughing Chrisisall

CHRISISALL

Friday, April 10, 2009 7:10 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:

Chris- Maybe I DO deserve a kick in the pants!

I got a question for you (and by extension AU, Rue, Finn, Kwicko, Jong, etc.)-
Do you have any beliefs that you can honestly say make no objective sense, you believe it "just because"?
Like, I believe in a shadow government...I have no hard evidence, and if pressed I'd say I believe it "just because."

I just wish peeps could say the same for their baseless beliefs, so that we wouldn't have all this tiring circular reasoning & strawman crap all the time.

The laughing Chrisisall

JONGSSTRAW

Friday, April 10, 2009 7:27 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
ya hypocrite twit.

Without condescension, posting itself, would be impossible.

The laughing Chrisisall

Go back to your hash pipe . You're starting to sound like Master Po's retarded half-brother, Long Willy Dong.

SIGNYM

Friday, April 10, 2009 7:29 PM

I believe that the universe is real, that we are a part of it, and that we come to know it through our senses. Just because. I have no real PROOF of that, you see. (Subjective idealists like George Berkeley could make a convincing argument otherwise, from a different set of assumptions.)

I believe in the greatest good for the greatest number, even generations of the future.

I believe that you are defined by what you DO, not what you've convinced yourself about your motives.

I believe that we are all subject to our assumptions, and that the more fundamental the assumptions the harder they are to see. I also believe that the highest calling of the human mind is to know itself in order to free itself from bias, to see the world more clearly and to understand it better.

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It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine.

RUE

Friday, April 10, 2009 7:31 PM

"Do you have any beliefs that you can honestly say make no objective sense, you believe it "just because"?"

I can't think of any at the moment. But I'm sure someone will post and tell me what I believe.

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Silence is consent.

CHRISISALL

Friday, April 10, 2009 7:34 PM

"Go back to your hash pipe . You're starting to sound like Master Po's retarded half-brother, Long Willy Dong."

You know what? FUCK YOU you simple-minded piece of republican shit!!! Go shove plaster elephant up your ass, and take an x-ray to prove your patriotic peerlessness to the almighty conservative cause!!!
You fucking make me sick, you neocon toady- why can't you just die & be useful in fertilizing some flowers? Stupid fuck!!

Had ya goin' there for a moment, eh Jong?

The hi-larious Chrisisall

JONGSSTRAW

Friday, April 10, 2009 7:40 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
"Go back to your hash pipe . You're starting to sound like Master Po's retarded half-brother, Long Willy Dong."

You know what? FUCK YOU you simple-minded piece of republican shit!!! Go shove plaster elephant up your ass, and take an x-ray to prove your patriotic peerlessness to the almighty conservative cause!!!
You fucking make me sick, you neocon toady- why can't you just die & be useful in fertilizing some flowers? Stupid fuck!!

Had ya goin' there for a moment, eh Jong?

The hi-larious Chrisisall

Not in the slightest moron. I expect nothing less than your vile hatred all the time. You do fool people sometimes when you pretend to be almost a human being. Smoke you!

RUE

Friday, April 10, 2009 7:47 PM

"Do you have any beliefs that you can honestly say make no objective sense, you believe it "just because"?"

"I can't think of any at the moment. But I'm sure someone will post and tell me what I believe."

C'mon Jong ! This seems like a challenge you should be up for !

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Silence is consent.

JONGSSTRAW

Friday, April 10, 2009 7:52 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by rue:
"Do you have any beliefs that you can honestly say make no objective sense, you believe it "just because"?"

"I can't think of any at the moment. But I'm sure someone will post and tell me what I believe."

C'mon Jong ! This seems like a challenge you should be up for !

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Silence is consent.

Rue, you and your entire posse of pussified posters are not worthy of any intelligent responses to your slanted and smug-ass questions. Do you have the ability to ever learn a fucking thing? Jeeesh! What a maroooon!

CHRISISALL

Friday, April 10, 2009 7:52 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:

Not in the slightest moron.

For your information slight morons happen to find me very funny.

Quote:
I expect nothing less than your vile hatred all the time.

That's better than your vile stench (I noticed it when I was brought on board).

The laughing Chrisisall

RUE

Friday, April 10, 2009 7:54 PM

Hey Jong

"Rue, you and your entire posse of pussified posters are not worthy of any intelligent responses to your slanted and smug-ass questions. Do you have the ability to ever learn a fucking thing? Jeeesh! What a maroooon!"

You're funny. Keep at it, girl.

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Silence is consent.

JONGSSTRAW

Friday, April 10, 2009 7:54 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:

Not in the slightest moron.
For your information slight morons happen to find me very funny.
Quote:
I expect nothing less than your vile hatred all the time.
That's better than your vile stench (I noticed it when I was brought on board).

The laughing Chrisisall

Eureka! I knew you didn't have any man-parts. Where are you hiding, little girl?

CHRISISALL

Friday, April 10, 2009 7:55 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Jeeesh! What a maroooon!

Sidebar: maroons were actually marooned, it was not until Bugs Bunny's misunderstanding of the word that it began to gain popular attention for this present meaning.

The laughing Chrisisall

CHRISISALL

Friday, April 10, 2009 7:57 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Where are you hiding, little girl?

Something tells me this isn't love, in point of fact.

The laughing Chrisisall

JONGSSTRAW

Friday, April 10, 2009 8:07 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Where are you hiding, little girl?
Something tells me this isn't love, in point of fact.

The laughing Chrisisall

I'm going to give you the honor of driving me off the board today. Interesting experiment to try to match the vile hatred some folks get here regularly. I guess I'm like Captain Pike. I cannot maintain images of hate in my mind to block your endless mind probe entrapments. You win. Go celebrate.

CHRISISALL

Friday, April 10, 2009 8:13 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Go celebrate.

The laughing Chrisisall

RUE

Friday, April 10, 2009 8:25 PM

OOOH look ! Shiny sparkly color things going boom ! Prettttyyyyy ...

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Silence is consent.

CHRISISALL

Friday, April 10, 2009 8:31 PM

KWICKO

Friday, April 10, 2009 8:37 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:

Rue, you and your entire posse of pussified posters are not worthy of any intelligent responses...

Well, in that case, I guess it's a good thing you and YOUR pussy-posse haven't given any intelligent responses...

Quote:
Do you have the ability to ever learn a fucking thing? Jeeesh! What a maroooon!

Well, I apparently have the ability to learn how to spell, which seems to have put me a big step up on the competition around here!

Mike

Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

SIGNYM

Friday, April 10, 2009 8:46 PM

Quote:
pussified posters

How about.. pussillanimous pussyfooters?

I dare ya to say THAT fast ten times!

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It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine.

CHRISISALL

Friday, April 10, 2009 9:11 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:

Well, I apparently have the ability to learn how to spell, which seems to have put me a big step up on the competition around here!

It makes me LOL every time Whozit spells his version of "don't."

The laughing Chrisisall

RUE

Friday, April 10, 2009 10:28 PM

" Interesting experiment to try to match the vile hatred some folks get here regularly."

And how did you set about to generate that 'hate' ? (Which, if I may point out, was not nearly as bad as you pretend it was.) Because you know, it didn't come out of nowhere.

Do you think these might have had something to do with it ?

Thursday, April 09, 2009 - 08:12
I admit I like watching him and his butchy lil' sister Rachel sometimes.

Thursday, April 09, 2009 - 08:34
... without him here, you'd curl up into a catatonic ball in the corner sucking on your big toe, staring hopelessly into space. You love Auraptor, you need Auraptor. You can't get enough of Auraptor. 10 to 1 gang attacks are a real hoot for ya.

Thursday, April 09, 2009 - 08:48
... you wouldn't know fairness or moral equivalency if it bit you in your tushy.

Thursday, April 09, 2009 - 14:24
I do believe the condescending part.

Thursday, April 09, 2009 - 14:57
.. liberal fascists and personal attack crazies now overrunning and polluting the RWED. But I see you and Rue supporting these punks, encouraging these maniacs, and piling on with them against your target of choice Auraptor.
All day today I wrote 90% light and sarcastic stuff, and what do I get for it? Any sort of fair debate or ribbing back? No, just vile name calling and cherry-picked quotes that are twisted to just further insult my sensibility and intelligence.

Friday, April 10, 2009 - 04:29
Signy and gang are only here to attack their enemies and ridicule them into wanting to leave. That's what they do, that's all they do.

Friday, April 10, 2009 - 05:27

Friday, April 10, 2009 - 06:04
Yeah, I agree that yer a fucking troll.

Friday, April 10, 2009 - 08:59
Whew! That was close....almost looked for a minute like we'd be spared some of your laughable condescension today, ya hypocrite twit.

Friday, April 10, 2009 - 09:27
Go back to your hash pipe . You're starting to sound like Master Po's retarded half-brother, Long Willy Dong.

Friday, April 10, 2009 - 09:40
Not in the slightest moron. I expect nothing less than your vile hatred all the time. You do fool people sometimes when you pretend to be almost a human being. Smoke you!

Friday, April 10, 2009 - 09:52
Rue, you and your entire posse of pussified posters are not worthy of any intelligent responses to your slanted and smug-ass questions. Do you have the ability to ever learn a fucking thing? Jeeesh! What a maroooon!

Friday, April 10, 2009 - 09:54
Eureka! I knew you didn't have any man-parts. Where are you hiding, little girl?

And, for a little cross-thread edification

http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.asp?b=18&t=37726

Friday, April 10, 2009 - 07:59
Chrissygirl, pathetic lapdog tool wannabee for the insane leftist fascist crowd. Punk.

Friday, April 10, 2009 - 08:16
Go fuck yourself douchebag. Yer the same as the rest of your rotten bunch of left wing nuts. CRY HAVOC!...and let the dogs of war be unleashed! No more pretenses are necessary. It's all very clear now. 100% hatred 100% of the time.

Friday, April 10, 2009 - 08:37
That's not funny. That's just a fact. How else ya think he keeps that ridiculous hair all glued down?

Friday, April 10, 2009 - 08:44
No. No love punky chrewster, it's much much better to hurl insults and profanities. The senseis of smarmy ego-centric smugness have shown the true path to wisdom.

Friday, April 10, 2009 - 09:19
The Bobsy twins of bullshit strike again! Fuck yooooze both!

Friday, April 10, 2009 - 09:36
Sorry to disappoint you assholes, but I'm right here pissing ALL OVER your stupid fat heads. I know ya love it too. It's 3 against one, and you haven't driven me away yet. YOUR DESPERATE last word obsession is pathetic beyond comprehension. So AGAIN, GO FUCK YOURSELVES!

Friday, April 10, 2009 - 09:46
Gladly.....pssssssssssssss....psssssss...pss shake Feel better now?

Friday, April 10, 2009 - 09:58
Hey fuck off Whozit troll. I despise you as

CHRISISALL

Friday, April 10, 2009 10:35 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by rue:

AND THEN YOU GO OFF IN A MARTYRED HUFF ABOUT HOW MUCH HATE YOU GOT.

I think he was trying to be funny. I'm still a little unclear.

The laughing Chrisisall

RUE

Friday, April 10, 2009 10:40 PM

Well, I hope Jongs will supply an answer.

I interpret it as going off in a huff having 'proved' something about how all 'librls' are hate-filled mean-spirited people who form packs and attack people for no good reason* ! SNIFF !

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* Except post after post of personal insults and foul language. Like, well - these:

Thursday, April 09, 2009 - 08:12
I admit I like watching him and his butchy lil' sister Rachel sometimes.

Thursday, April 09, 2009 - 08:34
... without him here, you'd curl up into a catatonic ball in the corner sucking on your big toe, staring hopelessly into space. You love Auraptor, you need Auraptor. You can't get enough of Auraptor. 10 to 1 gang attacks are a real hoot for ya.

Thursday, April 09, 2009 - 08:48
... you wouldn't know fairness or moral equivalency if it bit you in your tushy.

Thursday, April 09, 2009 - 14:24
I do believe the condescending part.

Thursday, April 09, 2009 - 14:57
.. liberal fascists and personal attack crazies now overrunning and polluting the RWED. But I see you and Rue supporting these punks, encouraging these maniacs, and piling on with them against your target of choice Auraptor.
All day today I wrote 90% light and sarcastic stuff, and what do I get for it? Any sort of fair debate or ribbing back? No, just vile name calling and cherry-picked quotes that are twisted to just further insult my sensibility and intelligence.

Friday, April 10, 2009 - 04:29
Signy and gang are only here to attack their enemies and ridicule them into wanting to leave. That's what they do, that's all they do.

Friday, April 10, 2009 - 05:27

Friday, April 10, 2009 - 06:04
Yeah, I agree that yer a fucking troll.

Friday, April 10, 2009 - 08:59
Whew! That was close....almost looked for a minute like we'd be spared some of your laughable condescension today, ya hypocrite twit.

Friday, April 10, 2009 - 09:27
Go back to your hash pipe . You're starting to sound like Master Po's retarded half-brother, Long Willy Dong.

Friday, April 10, 2009 - 09:40
Not in the slightest moron. I expect nothing less than your vile hatred all the time. You do fool people sometimes when you pretend to be almost a human being. Smoke you!

Friday, April 10, 2009 - 09:52
Rue, you and your entire posse of pussified posters are not worthy of any intelligent responses to your slanted and smug-ass questions. Do you have the ability to ever learn a fucking thing? Jeeesh! What a maroooon!

Friday, April 10, 2009 - 09:54
Eureka! I knew you didn't have any man-parts. Where are you hiding, little girl?

And, for a little cross-thread edification

http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.asp?b=18&t=37726

Friday, April 10, 2009 - 07:59
Chrissygirl, pathetic lapdog tool wannabee for the insane leftist fascist crowd. Punk.

Friday, April 10, 2009 - 08:16
Go fuck yourself douchebag. Yer the same as the rest of your rotten bunch of left wing nuts. CRY HAVOC!...and let the dogs of war be unleashed! No more pretenses are necessary. It's all very clear now. 100% hatred 100% of the time.

Friday, April 10, 2009 - 08:37
That's not funny. That's just a fact. How else ya think he keeps that ridiculous hair all glued down?

Friday, April 10, 2009 - 08:44
No. No love punky chrewster, it's much much better to hurl insults and profanities. The senseis of smarmy ego-centric smugness have shown the true path to wisdom.

Friday, April 10, 2009 - 09:19
The Bobsy twins of bullshit strike again! Fuck yooooze both!

Friday, April 10, 2009 - 09:36
Sorry to disappoint you assholes, but I'm right here pissing ALL OVER your stupid fat heads. I know ya love it too. It's 3 against one, and you haven't driven me away yet. YOUR DESPERATE last word obsession is pathetic beyond comprehension. So AGAIN, GO FUCK YOURSELVES!

Friday, April 10, 2009 - 09:46
Gladly.....pssssssssssssss....psssssss...pss shake Feel better now?

Friday, April 10, 200

SIGNYM

Saturday, April 11, 2009 12:25 AM

Just want to get back for a moment on how Finn seems to think it's the libruls who lack understanding and debating skills.

FINN???

Any comment?

ALSO- still kinda waiting for you to come up with examples about how unfair I've been, and how the ONLY reason why I "depise" rapo is because he has the temerity to disagree with me. I'd hate to see you go off in a huff. As I think you can see, I tend to keep my cool, and I'm happy to discuss anything with anybody provided they respond with a modicum of understanding and logic!

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It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine.

CHRISISALL

Saturday, April 11, 2009 1:50 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
Just want to get back for a moment on how Finn seems to think it's the libruls who lack understanding and debating skills.

FINN???

Any comment?

I think you and I might have laid a little too much honesty on him in our last few posts to him... I sincerely like the dude, I hope he doesn't stay away, but I can't control my verbal diarrhea sometimes.

The laughing Chrisisall

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Thursday, April 16, 2009 9:10 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:
Quote:
Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
Making a typo has nothing to do with being smart or dumb. Even the best spellers sometimes misspell words. And I don’t come to this board to edit documentation for publication. I come here to chat with friends and fellow browncoats. So that explains my typos. I’m still waiting to hear how you feel justified in your assholish response to those typos or how you can be completely befuddled to grasp the meaning of posts giving minor insignificant typos.

So continually using the wrong word, even when it's been repeatedly pointed out to you as being the wrong word, says NOTHING about your being smart or dumb? Like when you wrote this:

Quote:

But that would seem to argue my point. What do you know about Auraptor that would lead you to feel so strongly and personally against him, other then his political views? You genuinely dislike a person for no other reason then that this person’s political beliefs differ from yours. What you are describing is ideological bigotry or fundamentalism.

Twice in that same post, you misused the word "then" instead of using the correct word, "than". This indicates pretty clearly that you're either dumb, or you're just being an asshole and refusing to use the correct word in a fit of spitefulness.

Mike

Well, now - that mystery now solved. Asshole and insufferable prick it is.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Thursday, April 16, 2009 9:12 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:
Oh, and Jongs?

You misspelled "non-vicious".

Hey, Finn asked me to point it out...

To remove all doubt, yep, still asshole and insufferable prick, ... and still lying as well!

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Thursday, April 16, 2009 9:30 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
My problem with you guys (both of you) is that I feel that I understand your positions better than you do! I know your assumptions. I can see their logical extensions AND the contradiction they engender. I also know that you can't acknowledge some of your assumptions because of emotional reasons. The only thing I've learned from you is that there are scarily delusional people in the world.
Exactly my point. In your mind, you have us all figured out. We don’t share your point of view, so we are delusional nutcases. This is your excuse for not listening. This is why you insist upon asking the same question over and over again. You expect to hear the answer you want to hear, and if we don’t give you that answer, it’s not because we have a different point of view – it’s because we are scary and delusional crazy people. You can’t see my reasoning on the issue of human life because you insist upon apply an unrealistically childish model of reality, one in which no difficult choices are ever made. And you do that, because as long as you can confine my point of view in your mind to some simplest model it was never intended for, then you can right me off as scary delusional monster who wants to see people murdered. You have it all figured out.

Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

I'm sure we all provide this information to the wackos in the sincere hope they will some day open their eyes and no longer be liberals loons. However there comes a point at which despair looms wide and threatens that these units are too far gone and may be beyond salvage, they may never open their eyes. But being the parties of hope and reason, we persevere in our attempts to bringht light to the lefty masses.

And Finn, let me be clear: I hope you continue with your posts as is. If your typo concentration becomes too confusing, if I become bewildered about your actual meaning, I will point out the passage of confusion and ask for clarification. Otherwise the confusions can rest with the dolts, and I'll enjoy your dialogue.

FINN MAC CUMHAL

Thursday, April 16, 2009 11:06 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by jewelstaitefan:
And Finn, let me be clear: I hope you continue with your posts as is. If your typo concentration becomes too confusing, if I become bewildered about your actual meaning, I will point out the passage of confusion and ask for clarification. Otherwise the confusions can rest with the dolts, and I'll enjoy your dialogue.

I’m not that concerned with typos. They have never interfered with the meaning of my posts, and no one but Kwicko at this point has ever complained about them. And the only reason kwicko is complaining is to ignore the message of my posts. And that’s really what I was illustrating. It’s not typos or misspellings that concern kwicko, if it were, then he would have mentioned Storymark’s misspellings, which he did not. Instead, his intent was finding some way of confusing and ignoring the message of my post, a tactic that people Syngym encourage. This is behavior that has always existed on this board, but recently it seems to have become much worse. We are witnessing the death of fff.net, I imagine. It’s sad, but this is the way it happens. As the community starts to loose connection with itself, the trolls become more prominent and the hate becomes more aggressive. I watched it happen on the Dark Angel Board.

Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

KWICKO

Thursday, April 16, 2009 11:44 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by jewelstaitefan:
Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:
Oh, and Jongs?

You misspelled "non-vicious".

Hey, Finn asked me to point it out...

To remove all doubt, yep, still asshole and insufferable prick, ... and still lying as well!

JSF, pull your head out of your ass. "Non-vicious" was indeed misspelled; Jongs had it spelled "non-viscious". If you think that's a lie, then you're as stupid as that insufferable prick Finn.

Mike

Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

KWICKO

Thursday, April 16, 2009 11:55 AM

Quote:
Instead, his intent was finding some way of confusing and ignoring the message of my post...

Yes, instead responding to "the message" of my post (that you really need to work on your communication skills), your intent was to find some way of confusing and ignoring that message by instead attacking ME, calling me insufferable, an asshole, and a prick.

And I've noticed in other recent posts of yours that you STILL won't correctly use the word "then". "Then" is indicative of time: You are being an asshole, and THEN JSF joined you in "assholery". The word you should be using when making a comparison is "than", as in "You are a bigger asshole THAN JSF is."

I've pointed it out to you more than a few times, but you still refuse to correct yourself, instead resorting to calling me names. It's not a typo, unless you make the same "typo" every single time you use the word in this fashion. Is it that offensive to you, the idea that you could be wrong and I could be right? Or is it just your pigheaded arrogance that refuses to allow you to EVER admit your mistakes?

Mike

Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

CHRISISALL

Thursday, April 16, 2009 1:13 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by jewelstaitefan:
liberals loons.

This is what irritates me about you JSF, your purpose here is to label peeps with differing political ideologies, not to debate or argue specific concepts or issues, or even attack individuals for fun (which would at least be entertaining).
Wacky wingnut fun.

The laughing Chrisisall

FINN MAC CUMHAL

Thursday, April 16, 2009 1:15 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
This is what irritates me about you JSF, you purpose here is to label peeps with differing political ideologies, not to debate or argue specific concepts or issues, or even attack individuals for fun (which would at least be entertaining).
Wacky wingnut fun.

Yeah, right. You’re perfect okay with such language when it suits you.

Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

CHRISISALL

Thursday, April 16, 2009 1:25 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
This is behavior that has always existed on this board, but recently it seems to have become much worse.

I don't see it worse than ever, I just see the reactions to it as worse. Can it be that the Obama win has saddened the more right-leaning Conservatives in these parts to the point of dispondence?

The laughing Chrisisall

CHRISISALL

Thursday, April 16, 2009 1:26 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
Yeah, right. You’re perfect okay with such language when it suits you.

Colour me adaptable.

The laughing Chrisisall

CHRISISALL

Thursday, April 16, 2009 1:31 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
This is what irritates me about you JSF, you purpose here

Crap. I spelled "your" incorrectly.

The laughing Chrisisall

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FINN MAC CUMHAL

Thursday, April 16, 2009 1:32 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:
Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
This is behavior that has always existed on this board, but recently it seems to have become much worse.
I don't see it worse than ever, I just see the reactions to it as worse. Can it be that the Obama win has saddened the more right-leaning Conservatives in these parts to the point of dispondence?

I think, if that has anything to do with it, it has more likely emboldened the Liberal camp to be more aggressive in their attacks. Certainly it is not the "right-leaning" peeps that are "calling out" Auraptor. But I suspect it just has to do with the loss of community, because I don’t feel any love from my fellow browncoats.

Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

JONGSSTRAW

Thursday, April 16, 2009 1:32 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:
Originally posted by jewelstaitefan:
liberals loons.
This is what irritates me about you JSF, you purpose here is to label peeps with differing political ideologies, not to debate or argue specific concepts or issues, or even attack individuals for fun (which would at least be entertaining).
Wacky wingnut fun.

The laughing Chrisisall

JewelStaiteFan, Keep up the great work here! And DON'T EVER seriously engage them. Just mock and insult them as they justly deserve. You owe them nothing, no explanations, no debate. The more you and others stand up to them, the more they go nuts. Look above for the most sad and pathetic example of this...Rue, the High Priestess of Landru Lawgivers, spending hours and hours cutting & pasting or re-typing my post quotes, cherry-picking phrases, and desperately wanting an explanation. All that time spent was time taken away from her usual biased bullshit postings of the day. Funny how she and her RWED flock of feckless followers never ask for explanantions from their own agents of mayhem.

CHRISISALL

Thursday, April 16, 2009 1:45 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
I think, if that has anything to do with it, it has more likely emboldened the Liberal camp to be more aggressive in their attacks.

Emboldened. Hmmm. Everything in political & military terms....

Quote:
Certainly it is not the "right-leaning" peeps that are "calling out" Auraptor.

As it wasn't the "left-leaning" peeps that were endlessly yelling about "Bush-bashing."

Quote:
But I suspect it just has to do with the loss of community, because I don’t feel any love from my fellow browncoats.

C'mon man, I went through three years on this board under the Bush Admin, and youse guys are gonna fold under 3 months of Obama? You REALLY felt more love from your fellow Browncoats in 2006 than now? I find that hard to believe.

The laughing Chrisisall

CHRISISALL

Thursday, April 16, 2009 1:48 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Just mock and insult them as they justly deserve.

PLEASE! It's way more entertaining than mindlessly handing out labels.

The laughing Chrisisall

CHRISISALL

Thursday, April 16, 2009 1:56 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:
you're as stupid as that insufferable prick Finn.

Quote:
Originally posted by Jongstraw:
Rue, the High Priestess of Landru Lawgivers

To be fair, Mike, the snark could be a bit funnier, like Jong here.

The laughing Chrisisall

FINN MAC CUMHAL

Thursday, April 16, 2009 2:04 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
C'mon man, I went through three years on this board under the Bush Admin, and youse guys are gonna fold under 3 months of Obama? You REALLY felt more love from your fellow Browncoats in 2006 than now? I find that hard to believe.

I did. Serenity was still new. Only a year old. Hell, there were parts of the country that were still playing it in theaters that year. There was lots of enthusiasm to offset the snarkiness, but that’s not the case anymore. It's true that the Bush bashing and political hatreds existed even then, but today it has become harder to overlook. As the enthusiasm for Firefly wanes it is replaced with snark and trolling to become more intense.

Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

JONGSSTRAW

Thursday, April 16, 2009 2:08 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Just mock and insult them as they justly deserve.
PLEASE! It's way more entertaining than mindlessly handing out labels.

The laughing Chrisisall

Glad you agree with me on this isall. See, there's been no love lost here with us mighty Browncoats. And Kris, if yer an inipenent like you say, why wouldn't you support Texas seceeding from the Union? Admit it, yer just a big Govt. handout kinda guy, right? Sort of like a Robin Hood for all the downtrodden victims of society, right? Only two kinds of money, yours and ours. You have no reservations about redistributing my hard-earned money to those you feel haven't been given a break, right? And of course if they dropped out of school, or use drugs, or commit felonies, or gambled their life away recklessly etc, I'm to bail them out too, right?

KWICKO

Thursday, April 16, 2009 2:12 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:
you're as stupid as that insufferable prick Finn.

Quote:
Originally posted by Jongstraw:
Rue, the High Priestess of Landru Lawgivers

To be fair, Mike, the snark could be a bit funnier, like Jong here.

The laughing Chrisisall

Oh, I'm all about the snark, Chris. Those particular words were chosen and used because they were the EXACT words Finn used against me.

Mike

Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

CHRISISALL

Thursday, April 16, 2009 2:15 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
It's true that the Bush bashing and political hatreds existed even then, but today it has become harder to overlook. As the enthusiasm for Firefly wanes it is replaced with snark and trolling to become more intense.

In examining my own feelings here, I find myself lightening up noticeably on the political front, I'm more trying to have fun here (okay, sometimes VERY snarky fun) than anything else, and I can tell ya, it's because Bush & Cheney aren't strolling the Halls Of Power anymore, but I'd also feel pretty much the same way if McCain & Paleface had won.
I really think some of the bad 'tudes you perceive are just the ones during The Bush era turned around. When progressives were emotional about torture, it was fun to hear us cry. Now it's not the anti-Bush types crying, so it feels very different here to you, at least that's my take.
But there'll be plenty more to complain about in a justifiable manner concerning Obama's decisions & actions; the fun for Conservatives isn't all gone just yet.

The laughing Chrisisall

KWICKO

Thursday, April 16, 2009 2:15 PM

Quote:

JewelStaiteFan, Keep up the great work here! And DON'T EVER seriously engage them. Just mock and insult them as they justly deserve. You owe them nothing, no explanations, no debate. The more you and others stand up to them, the more they go nuts.

Honestly, I'm not sure how to feel about this. On the one hand, I'm ecstatic that you finally figured this out; on the other, I'm depressed that it took you so damned long to figure it out...

If you see a post of mine where I'm not poking fun at something or someone, then you're probably reading it wrong. I'm multi-layered, a veritable onion of smartassery and snark.

Mike

Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

CHRISISALL

Thursday, April 16, 2009 2:17 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:

Oh, I'm all about the snark, Chris. Those particular words were chosen and used because they were the EXACT words Finn used against me.

Oh, yeah.

The laughing Chrisisall

CHRISISALL

Thursday, April 16, 2009 2:23 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:

Glad you agree with me on this isall.

Quote:
You have no reservations about redistributing my hard-earned money to those you feel haven't been given a break, right? And of course if they dropped out of school, or use drugs, or commit felonies, or gambled their life away recklessly etc, I'm to bail them out too, right?

Oh, I have MOUNTAINS of reservations, Jong. I've seen peeps firsthand working the system to live a work-free life, high as a kite, and they get no willing support from me. But they also aren't the majority of recipients of assistance IMO. It's way more complicated that simple blacks & whites, and I totally disagree with bailing out the corps & peeps that financially effed us all too.
But then, this might turn into a serious discussion...I'm more about flingin' the felgercarb!

The laughing Chrisisall

KWICKO

Thursday, April 16, 2009 2:25 PM

Quote:
Only two kinds of money, yours and ours. You have no reservations about redistributing my hard-earned money to those you feel haven't been given a break, right? And of course if they dropped out of school, or use drugs, or commit felonies, or gambled their life away recklessly etc, I'm to bail them out too, right?

And you have no reservations about redistributing MY hard-earned money to those you feel haven't been given a break, either. How else do you explain invading and occupying Iraq, to the tune of what will end up costing us TRILLIONS of tax dollars, and for what? Because apparently THEIR freedom is far more important than OUR freedom - and remember, they hate us for our freedom!

So yeah, if they supported a tyrant (or even if WE supported that same tyrant, but now we're not so sure about him), or used to have WMD, or if they said something we don't like, or if they're some shade less than pasty white, we'll "spread democracy" to them with bombs and guns, right?

Mike

Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

FINN MAC CUMHAL

Thursday, April 16, 2009 2:27 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:
Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
It's true that the Bush bashing and political hatreds existed even then, but today it has become harder to overlook. As the enthusiasm for Firefly wanes it is replaced with snark and trolling to become more intense.

In examining my own feelings here, I find myself lightening up noticeably on the political front, I'm more trying to have fun here (okay, sometimes VERY snarky fun) than anything else, and i can tell ya, it's because Bush & Cheney aren't strolling the Halls Of Power anymore, but I'd also feel pretty much the same way if McCain & Paleface had won.
I really think some of the bad 'tudes you perceive are just the ones during The Bush era turned around. When progressives were emotional about torture, it was fun to hear us cry. Now it's not the anti-Bush types crying, so it feels very different here to you, at least that's my take.
But there'll be plenty more to complain about in a justifiable manner concerning Obama's decisions & actions; the fun for Conservatives isn't all gone just yet.

The hypocrisy is probably part of the problem. When Bush was in office, the world was always falling a part, the economy was always bad, the Iraq war was always an issue. Then Obama was elected and suddenly the economy is not much of an issue anymore (despite being in a recession), the Iraq war is almost never mentioned, and the world is at peace. Nothing has changed in the last year, aside from the collapse of the economy, but the liberals have decided that none of the issues they were once so passionate about are really that important anymore. I do admit that the hypocrisy gets to me, and probably makes me less willing to take many of you seriously.

Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

CHRISISALL

Thursday, April 16, 2009 2:28 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:

And you have no reservations about redistributing MY hard-earned money to those you feel haven't been given a break, either. How else do you explain invading and occupying Iraq, to the tune of what will end up costing us TRILLIONS of tax dollars, and for what?

Because it's righteous, and God would want us to- didn't you get the memo?

The laughing Chrisisall

CHRISISALL

Thursday, April 16, 2009 2:32 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:

The hypocrisy is probably part of the problem. When Bush was in office, the world was always falling a part, the economy was always bad, the Iraq war was always an issue. Then Obama was elected and suddenly

...torture is once again officially unacceptable, a date is set to withdraw from Iraq, official attitudes towards Cuba are relaxing, Gitmo is disappearing, we have a President that uses constructive language towards peeps of other cultures, our world cred has increased....no, it's not all the same excepting the recession, Finn.

The laughing Chrisisall

JONGSSTRAW

Thursday, April 16, 2009 2:48 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:

Glad you agree with me on this isall.
Quote:
You have no reservations about redistributing my hard-earned money to those you feel haven't been given a break, right? And of course if they dropped out of school, or use drugs, or commit felonies, or gambled their life away recklessly etc, I'm to bail them out too, right?
Oh, I have MOUNTAINS of reservations, Jong. I've seen peeps firsthand working the system to live a work-free life, high as a kite, and they get no willing support from me. But they also aren't the majority of recipients of assistance IMO. It's way more complicated that simple blacks & whites, and I totally disagree with bailing out the corps & peeps that financially effed us all too.
But then, this might turn into a serious discussion...I'm more about flingin' the felgercarb!

The laughing Chrisisall

Oh you're quite right. It almost started to look like a discussion. But if I'm correctly reading your words above, I'm a'wondrin' why you're supporting Obama/Pelosi's brand of one-world Soros-brand socialism. Not too consistent in positions there isall.

CHRISISALL

Thursday, April 16, 2009 2:59 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
I'm a'wondrin' why you're supporting Obama/Pelosi's brand of one-world Soros-brand socialism. Not too consistent in positions there isall.

In a choice between right-wing fascism & left-wing socialism, the latter will mostly always be preferable IMO, but the real issue here is that Obama is a Centrist, and the socialistic trappings have been with us for some time now, they're nothing new. If you want to label him an "American Socialist," I'd be fine with that thought.
I just can't wait for "FESTIVAL!!!"

The laughing Chrisisall

RUE

Thursday, April 16, 2009 3:01 PM

"This is behavior that has always existed on this board, but recently it seems to have become much worse."

Probably 'cause the shoe is on the other foot. And it pinches a mite.

***************************************************************

Silence is consent.

JONGSSTRAW

Thursday, April 16, 2009 3:10 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
I'm a'wondrin' why you're supporting Obama/Pelosi's brand of one-world Soros-brand socialism. Not too consistent in positions there isall.
In a choice between right-wing fascism & left-wing socialism, the latter will mostly always be preferable IMO, but the real issue here is that Obama is a Centrist, and the socialistic trappings have been with us for some time now, they're nothing new. If you want to label him an "American Socialist," I'd be fine with that, thought.
I just can't wait for "FESTIVAL!!!"

The laughing Chrisisall

Obama is a centrist? Maybe he campaigned as one, but he certainly hasn't acted as one. As for Festival, don't worry, your fellow automatons of the body will announce when the Red Hour will strike with plenty of advance notice to get a place to sleep it off. If you need a place, my daddy can put you up for the night.

CHRISISALL

Thursday, April 16, 2009 3:16 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:

Obama is a centrist? Maybe he campaigned as one, but he certainly hasn't acted as one.

Please explain. You are human; only humans can explain...

The laughing Chrisisall

CHRISISALL

Thursday, April 16, 2009 3:29 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by rue:

Probably 'cause the shoe is on the other foot. And it pinches a mite.

Poor mite.

The laughing Chrisisall

JONGSSTRAW

Thursday, April 16, 2009 3:38 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:

Obama is a centrist? Maybe he campaigned as one, but he certainly hasn't acted as one.
Please explain. You are human; only humans can explain...

The laughing Chrisisall

Now now....we agreed no explanations, no conversations, no point to itisall. Norman coordinate.

CHRISISALL

Thursday, April 16, 2009 3:47 PM

The right-wing is a little tweeting bird, chirping in a meadow. The left-wing is wreath of pretty flowers that smell bad.
Are you sure your circuits are registering correctly? Your moderates are green!

The laughing Chrisisall

CHRISISALL

Thursday, April 16, 2009 3:58 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:

The hypocrisy is probably part of the problem. When Bush was in office, the world was always falling a part, the economy was always bad, the Iraq war was always an issue. Then Obama was elected and suddenly

...torture is once again officially unacceptable, a date is set to withdraw from Iraq, official attitudes towards Cuba are relaxing, Gitmo is disappearing, we have a President that uses constructive language towards peeps of other cultures, our world cred has increased....no, it's not all the same excepting the recession, Finn.

Wassa matter Finn? Nothing you can say to that? Thought you'd made a clever point there & hated to see it shot down?

Do I win? And if so, what's my prize?

The laughing Chrisisall

KWICKO

Thursday, April 16, 2009 5:39 PM

You win the entire internet, and everything in it!

Mike

Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

CHRISISALL

Thursday, April 16, 2009 5:43 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:
You win the entire internet, and everything in it!

COOL!
Now I will begin with the Political Cleansing...not that I'm instantly absolutely corrupted by this new power or anything...

The laughing Chrisisall

JONGSSTRAW

Thursday, April 16, 2009 5:54 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
The right-wing is a little tweeting bird, chirping in a meadow. The left-wing is wreath of pretty flowers that smell bad.
Are you sure your circuits are registering correctly? Your moderates are green!

The laughing Chrisisall

Hey dumbass, you just took out my twin Alice lovebots!

CHRISISALL

Thursday, April 16, 2009 6:00 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:

Hey dumbass, you just took out my twin Alice lovebots!

You wore them out anyway.

The laughing Chrisisall

JONGSSTRAW

Thursday, April 16, 2009 6:14 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:

Hey dumbass, you just took out my twin Alice lovebots!
You wore them out anyway.

The laughing Chrisisall

Maybe, but I have 498 other Alices to play with, plus a full contingency of Trudys, Daisys, etc, and let's face it, Norman is kinda cute too.

OPPYH

Thursday, April 16, 2009 6:43 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:
And you have no reservations about redistributing MY hard-earned money to those you feel haven't been given a break, either.

Somehow I don't think your money is hard-earned.

Get a girlfriend loser.

CITIZEN

Thursday, April 16, 2009 6:55 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by jewelstaitefan:
Well, now - that mystery now solved. Asshole and insufferable prick it is.

But recognising these things about yourself is the first step.

KWICKO

Thursday, April 16, 2009 7:06 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by OPPYH:
Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:
And you have no reservations about redistributing MY hard-earned money to those you feel haven't been given a break, either.

Somehow I don't think your money is hard-earned.

Get a girlfriend loser.

Which goes to show how woefully little you know about me, in more ways than one.

1) I work hard for a living. I mean WORK. It's a lot of physical work, much lifting, much moving stuff around with forklift and pallet truck. Yes, I drive a forklift. Yes, I wear a hardhat on occasion.

2) I work my ass off 5, 6, or 7 days a week, as the need arises.

3) I'd get a girlfriend, but that would probably upset my wife. Sunday is our 20th anniversary. Sorry you haven't found anybody yet. ;)

4) There really should be a comma between "girlfriend" and "loser" - unless you're trying to tell me to get a loser girlfriend. And I have to reiterate, I think my wife would get mad.

Mike

Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

KWICKO

Thursday, April 16, 2009 7:10 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by citizen:
Quote:
Originally posted by jewelstaitefan:
Well, now - that mystery now solved. Asshole and insufferable prick it is.

But recognising these things about yourself is the first step.

And honestly, Jewels, my little chickadee - when did you ever see me claim that I'm *NOT* an asshole? Huh? In fact, the truth is quite the contrary - I've said it many times here, I am absolutely an asshole. Hell, I scored 23 out of 24 on Frem's "Asshole Test" - but to be honest, I was really ]trying to be an asshole when taking that test - and it worked! I'm also a magnificent bastard, and a downright son-of-a-bitch.

I guess my only question for you is, why are YOU such an insufferable asshole?

Mike

Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

CITIZEN

Thursday, April 16, 2009 7:33 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:
3) I'd get a girlfriend, but that would probably upset my wife. Sunday is our 20th anniversary. Sorry you haven't found anybody yet. ;)

That's not true, I had his girlfriend. It was late, I had had about twenty beers, she was all that was left.

MALACHITE

Thursday, April 16, 2009 8:43 PM

ETA: Drats! I was trying to reply with Sig's response to Chris's question about what we believe "just because". Here's his quote:

"I believe that the universe is real, that we are a part of it, and that we come to know it through our senses. Just because. I have no real PROOF of that, you see. (Subjective idealists like George Berkeley could make a convincing argument otherwise, from a different set of assumptions.)

I believe in the greatest good for the greatest number, even generations of the future.

I believe that you are defined by what you DO, not what you've convinced yourself about your motives.

I believe that we are all subject to our assumptions, and that the more fundamental the assumptions the harder they are to see. I also believe that the highest calling of the human mind is to know itself in order to free itself from bias, to see the world more clearly and to understand it better."

Wow! Great answer! What a refreshing response. Thanks for making a serious answer to that interesting question. (I couldn't tell if anyone acknowledged your answer to the question posed about what we belief "just because", so I figured I'd chime in -- even if I don't think I agree with all of it).

OPPYH

Friday, April 17, 2009 8:22 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:
1) I work hard for a living. I mean WORK. It's a lot of physical work, much lifting, much moving stuff around with forklift and pallet truck. Yes, I drive a forklift. Yes, I wear a hardhat on occasion.

2) I work my ass off 5, 6, or 7 days a week, as the need arises.

That's good.

Quote:
3) I'd get a girlfriend, but that would probably upset my wife. Sunday is our 20th anniversary. Sorry you haven't found anybody yet. ;)

I've found many girls. Most of them break up with me because I don't wanna get married. Marriage isn't the pinnacle of happiness. I've never understood that. On the other hand congratulations on your anniversary.

Quote:
4) There really should be a comma between "girlfriend" and "loser" - unless you're trying to tell me to get a loser girlfriend. And I have to reiterate, I think my wife would get mad.

I was in a hurry. Why don't you become an English teacher? You've got a grasp for proper English. It pays good, and you get the Summer off

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Friday, April 17, 2009 9:14 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:
you're as stupid as that insufferable prick Finn.

Quote:
Originally posted by Jongstraw:
Rue, the High Priestess of Landru Lawgivers

To be fair, Mike, the snark could be a bit funnier, like Jong here.

The laughing Chrisisall

Umm. Ahhh. Errr. Hasisall stumbled upon a plateau of fairness and ambiguity?

KWICKO

Friday, April 17, 2009 11:43 AM

Quote:
I was in a hurry. Why don't you become an English teacher? You've got a grasp for proper English. It pays good, and you get the Summer off

Actually, the pay is terrible. Here in Austin, an English teacher with ten years' experience gets paid less than $30,000 per year.

Anyone who goes into teaching for the money is an idiot. And anyone who goes into teaching for the summers off is going to get paid like someone who works nine months out of the year.

This is in no way to be read as a defamation of teachers. It's a noble profession, a true calling for some, and it's a damned shame that we don't respect good teachers as much as we do good football players, and pay them accordingly.

Mike

Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

KPO

Friday, April 17, 2009 12:43 PM

Quote:
Obama is a centrist? Maybe he campaigned as one, but he certainly hasn't acted as one.

In my experience people from both the left and the centre see obama as being in the political centre/centre-left.

Interesting that people on the (far?) right consider themselves such an authority on their opposite end of the political spectrum. Do you know something we don't Jong? Or is it that the political school of thought you subscribe to has its own special lens to see obama through...?

Heads should roll

FINN MAC CUMHAL

Friday, April 17, 2009 1:53 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:

The hypocrisy is probably part of the problem. When Bush was in office, the world was always falling a part, the economy was always bad, the Iraq war was always an issue. Then Obama was elected and suddenly
...torture is once again officially unacceptable, a date is set to withdraw from Iraq, official attitudes towards Cuba are relaxing, Gitmo is disappearing, we have a President that uses constructive language towards peeps of other cultures, our world cred has increased....no, it's not all the same excepting the recession, Finn.

Good, so instead of taking responsibility for our coercive interrogation techniques we’ll send people to countries that will do far, far worse, or we will use those techniques ourselves since there is no oversight. I’m not sure how much we will actually withdrawal from Iraq, but the best that can be said about that is that Bush’s Surge worked and Obama can’t take any responsibility for that. So now we will look the other way when Cuba commits atrocious human rights violations. And we have a president whose only claim to fame is that he has mastered a flowery, feel-good politically correct way of telling people what they want to hear. And then there’s Gitmo, which if it actually is closed will mean either releasing extremely dangerous terrorists to continue acts of terrorism or holding them in places where there will be far less accountability for their treatment.

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Wassa matter Finn? Nothing you can say to that? Thought you'd made a clever point there & hated to see it shot down?

Why is something the matter? Isn’t it possible that I had to go to work? Or I spent time with the girls? Or even staring at the wall would probably be a better use of my time then responding to your posts. There are all kinds of reasons why I wouldn't jump to respond to your posts just because you post them, not the least of which is that your opinion isn’t that important. In fact, you should be kissing my ass right now because I thought enough of you to tell you off.

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Do I win? And if so, what's my prize?

A poke with a sharp stick.

Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

CHRISISALL

Friday, April 17, 2009 2:00 PM

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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
Good, so instead of taking responsibility for our coercive interrogation techniques we’ll send people to countries that will do far, far worse, or we will use those techniques ourselves since there is no oversight.

...ummmmm...what? You mean, in the next administration?? I'm not too clear on what you mean here.

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In fact, you should be kissing my ass right now because I thought enough of you to tell you off.

Well, I guess I'm fighting off my sly side right now to just say thanks.

The laughing Chrisisall

CHRISISALL

Friday, April 17, 2009 2:03 PM

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Originally posted by jewelstaitefan:

Umm. Ahhh. Errr. Hasisall stumbled upon a plateau of fairness and ambiguity?

I do not wish to have my Loony Leftist secret decoder ring revoked, SHHHHHHHH!

The laughing Chrisisall

FINN MAC CUMHAL

Friday, April 17, 2009 2:10 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
...ummmmm...what? You mean, in the next administration?? I'm not too clear on what you mean here.

Under Bush we did our own dirty work. We could regulate it; assure that methods that were more humane and more effective were used. We were moving towards a more open policy and finally moving towards legally defining what is acceptable and what is not. Under Obama, all that is lost. There will be no accountability, which means the Egyptians will do our dirty work for us or clandestine unofficial CIA teams will act with no guidance from the state. There will be no further discussion on the matter, because we’ll wash our hands and pretend we aren’t standing knee deep in mud.

Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

FINN MAC CUMHAL

Friday, April 17, 2009 2:11 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Well, I guess I'm fighting off my sly side right now to just say thanks.

I'm fighting off mine to just say you're welcome.

Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

CHRISISALL

Friday, April 17, 2009 2:24 PM

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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
Under Bush we did our own dirty work. We could regulate it; assure that methods that were more humane and more effective were used. We were moving towards a more open policy and finally moving towards legally defining what is acceptable and what is not.

My problem with that is that any technique that an administration wants to use can be certified as effective, safe & legal in that way, no matter if it is or isn't.

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Under Obama, all that is lost. There will be no accountability, which means the Egyptians will do our dirty work for us or clandestine unofficial CIA teams will act with no guidance from the state.

Is this your fortune-teller side speaking, or do you have an inside top guy at Langley that vows never to stop torturing as long as he is still breathing?
How can you say with certainty that this HAS to be the case?

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we’ll wash our hands and pretend we aren’t standing knee deep in mud.

That is SOP in any case, IMO.

The laughing Chrisisall

FINN MAC CUMHAL

Friday, April 17, 2009 2:27 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
My problem with that is that any technique that an administration wants to use can be certified as effective, safe & legal in that way, no matter if it is or isn't.

That’s why the discussion needs to continue, which it will not.

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Is this your fortune-teller side speaking, or do you have an inside top guy at Langley that vows never to stop torturing as long as he is still breathing?
How can you say with certainty that this HAS to be the case?

I don’t worship Obama like you do. I’m not naïve enough to simply say that because Obama is in office the second coming has occurred. You seem to think the whole world has changed, it has not. It’s the same one it was when Bush was in office.

Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

CHRISISALL

Friday, April 17, 2009 2:33 PM

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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
I don’t worship Obama like you do. I’m not naïve enough to simply say that because Obama is in office the second coming has occurred.

Like Sarge said, I really like the facelift, but that's all I'm seeing so far. I don't worship him, but after Bush & Cheney, almost anyone would seem great.

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You seem to think the whole world has changed, it has not. It’s the same one it was when Bush was in office.

Sadly, I agree.
I'm just hoping that Obama is ready for a little tussle here & there to enforce his no-torture sentiments. We'll see.

The laughing Chrisisall

OPPYH

Friday, April 17, 2009 4:25 PM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:

Actually, the pay is terrible. Here in Austin, an English teacher with ten years' experience gets paid less than $30,000 per year.

Anyone who goes into teaching for the money is an idiot. And anyone who goes into teaching for the summers off is going to get paid like someone who works nine months out of the year.

Less than $30,000 after 10 years? In Austin that could barely keep you afloat. That's horrible.
10 years experience in Grand Rapids will earn you about $38,000. Not bad at all.

KWICKO

Friday, April 17, 2009 8:56 PM

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Originally posted by OPPYH:
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Originally posted by Kwicko:

Actually, the pay is terrible. Here in Austin, an English teacher with ten years' experience gets paid less than $30,000 per year.

Anyone who goes into teaching for the money is an idiot. And anyone who goes into teaching for the summers off is going to get paid like someone who works nine months out of the year.

Less than $30,000 after 10 years? In Austin that could barely keep you afloat. That's horrible.
10 years experience in Grand Rapids will earn you about $38,000. Not bad at all.

OPPYH, I have to issue a retraction, and an apology. My figures were off, and not by a just a little! Here's the latest figures (2007 were the most recent I could find):

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TEXAS RANKS 29TH IN THE NATION FOR TEACHER PAY

Texas ranked 29th in the nation for its average teacher salary in 2006-07, according to the American Federation of Teachers' (AFT) Survey and Analysis of Teacher Salary Trends 2007.

The average teacher salary in Texas for teh 2006-07 school year was $45,392. Texas was ranked 10th in the nation for beginning teacher salaries at $38,522.

Sorry about that. My bad for listening to my sister-in-law, the math teacher!

But apparently, Austin doesn't pay well for ANY teachers, since the university churns out so many of them. And because so many of them want to stay here, it tends to depress wages, while at the same time INCREASING the cost of living. In most recent comparisons I've seen, Austin's cost of living ranks almost dead even with San Francisco, Chicago, and Seattle - none of which are exactly known for being cheap places to live.

As I've said, I work in a warehouse where I can wear pretty much whatever I want, I can sing, talk to myself if I want, curse, burp, fart, or what have you, and I make more than most teachers here. And I don't have to put up with anyone's kids!

Does that seem right to you?

Oh, and sorry again about passing on bad info.

Mike

Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

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