Dollhouse: Echoes - Echo engages echoes of her past. Post comments here.
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UPDATED: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 18:21
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I liked various snatches from this episode, but as a whole, I did not think very much of it (though it was better than most of the 5 pilot episodes). Poor editing didn't really help things (people elsewhere are citing the "red pipe" tunnel as being only about 8 feet long, woo...). Lots of smaller aspects were interesting or compelling, but I'm not sure I'd want to rewatch the episode like I would last week's. Adelle was wonderful though. :D
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Very interesting episode......
I just wondered why Dr. Saunders hardly appeared, if at all. How curious? Also, something besides saving the monkeys has to factor in to how Echo got roped into the Dollhouse in the first place.
Turq
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Originally posted by TurquoiseBoat:
Also, something besides saving the monkeys has to factor in to how Echo got roped into the Dollhouse in the first place.
She saw the computer and what they were really up to. Never mind legal trouble. Crossing a corporation like that -- they can make people "disappear". So the choice becomes getting snuffed out or doing time as a doll.
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Originally posted by Cybersnark:Quote:true, but consider the irony of her being little more than a lab animal herself, now.
Originally posted by khambilo:
But I'm not so sure about how I feel about Caroline's background...it seemed a bit cliche.
True. I guess that's an interesting twist on it.
By the way did anyone catch what was going on with Victor and his flashbacks in that episode? I was a bit confused by that. Was that something from his past experiences as a doll (like Sierra's flashback) or was that from something prior to him becoming a doll (like Echo's flashbacks)?
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I understand the choice there. You're correct in every way.
I just found myself wondering if there is going to be any other layers of motivation woven in for breaking into the "evil corporation" in the first place.
If Caroline's great cause is the humane treatment of animals, it might have arisen a bit suddenly. It is a new and interesting character insight, but comments stating the episode felt rushed might be a result of not having any other context for that righteous cause.
Turq
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A funky episode reminiscent of the Angel episode "Spin the Bottle" and the Buffy episode "Tabula Rasa" - It's a clever devise to inject humour when the usual format of the show wouldn't usually allow it, but I'm wondering if it's a tad overused now. It was alot of fun though.
Not the best episode as the wrap up was a bit sudden and we really didn't see Topher 'deal' with his walking around in his underwear!? But DeWitt was delicious during her moment and I'm now curious as to who Mellie's friend might be who may pop in to crash at her place? In other words might a new active move in next to Ballard?
Also how horrific was the kid hitting his head against the glass! Jeez! A simple notion really well put together!
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Like many, I didn't like Topher at all for the first few eps but....
Juiceboxes?
Nerdy?
A drawer of inappropriate starches?
Quirky sense of humor?
Is it weird that he's pretty much beginning to encompass what I like in a guy (besides the whole working for an evil corporation and mind washing people thing)? I mean pretty much all that's left is if he's a Browncoat, has a love of animated movies, and is willing to sleep on bed sheets with cartoon characters on them (ninja turtles, spongebob, spiderman, dinosaurs, ect). But seriously, think I'm developing a crush on Topher.....
Ummm yeahhh... getting back to the show....
Great ep, loved the various states of high throughout the non-dolls ("I have a phalax of machines that go bing", "I could eat that word... or a crisp", "It's soft! Like a kitty") as well as the glitching of the Dolls as it gave us some insight into them.
I buy Carolina's past as a uber-activist wanting to save the monkeys and bring down the evil science lab as well as getting way in over her head. I also liked Victor's glitch which alludes to the guy was in the war at some time.
But Echo is on her way to a compositing event reeaaal soon. Like the season finale soon. So I'm intrigued as to how after the composite event (which will render Echo as badass as River and Buffy as she will recall some of her past programming), how Joss is going to pull off five seasons as that is how many he's planned out. I full faith in him, I'm just curious as to how this obviously wild ride is going to go down.
Your Indian Pirate Lord,
Ash
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Originally posted by pachelbel:
they left a lot of loose threads. Not threads that could be neatly tied up in an "ah-ha" moment later
We're now seven episodes into a Joss Whedon show... What on Earth would make you think there's going to come a moment where everything will suddenly be tied up into a pretty little bow? I am expecting nothing but the complete, total and utter lack of pretty little bows.
Hm... unless we see Echo in some lingerie.
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Originally posted by PhoenixRose:Quote:
Originally posted by pachelbel:
they left a lot of loose threads. Not threads that could be neatly tied up in an "ah-ha" moment later
We're now seven episodes into a Joss Whedon show... What on Earth would make you think there's going to come a moment where everything will suddenly be tied up into a pretty little bow? I am expecting nothing but the complete, total and utter lack of pretty little bows.
Hm... unless we see Echo in some lingerie.
Maybe you are right. What I really meant was that the show seems terribly sloppy so far --- that's not indicative of a Joss Whedon show.
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Some small observations:
(1) Caroline Farrell. We now have a last name.
(2) Extreme implication that her induction into the Dollhouse was less than truly voluntary.
(3) "Rossum Corporation": Quite likely a reference to the stageplay R.U.R. -- standing for "Rossum's Universal Robots". Source point for the word "robot". For those not in the know, the play ended with the robots rebelling against their creators . . .
"You can't fight a ghost." -- Echo
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