Conga lines in the White House as Dow continues to crash

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AURAPTOR

Friday, March 6, 2009 5:24 AM

Obama kicks up White House entertaining
By DARLENE SUPERVILLE – 3 days ago
WASHINGTON (AP) — The White House is the place to be on Wednesdays.
Since the presidency changed hands less than six weeks ago, a burst of entertaining has taken hold of the iconic, white-columned home of America's head of state. Much of it comes on Wednesdays.
The stately East Room, where portraits of George and Martha Washington adorn the walls, was transformed into a concert hall as President Barack Obama presented Stevie Wonder with the nation's highest award for pop music on Wednesday.
A week before that, the foot-stomping sounds of Sweet Honey in the Rock, a female a cappella group, filled the East Room for a Black History Month program first lady Michelle Obama held for nearly 200 sixth- and seventh-graders from around the city.
Cocktails were sipped during at least three such receptions to date, all held on Wednesdays.
Bookending the midweek activity were a Super Bowl party for select Democratic and Republican lawmakers and a dinner for governors, the new administration's first black-tie affair. It was capped with a performance by the 1970s pop group Earth, Wind and Fire. And a conga line.
The flurry of entertaining is in keeping with the Obamas' promise to make the White House a more open place for everyone.
The governors' dinner was "a great kickoff of what we hope will be an atmosphere here in the White House that is welcoming and that reminds everybody that this is the people's house," Obama told the state chief executives after they had dined on Maryland crab, Wagyu beef, Nantucket scallops and citrus salad.
"We are just temporary occupants. This is a place that belongs to the American people and we want to make sure that everybody understands it's open," he said.
At the dinner in the State Dining Room, the Obamas looked comfortable, chatting and smiling with their guests. Afterward, they escorted the governors down the hall to the East Room, which had been arranged with few tables and chairs to encourage dancing to "September," "Boogie Wonderland" and other hits from a musical group Obama listened to growing up.
The conga line formed after the media were escorted out and, apparently, after Obama had called it a night.
"Thank you also for waiting until I had left before you started the conga line," the president told the governors the next morning. "I hear it was quite a spectacle."
Some Obama guests say he immediately puts them at ease. He indulges them and serves cookies, too.
"People like me felt comfortable in his presence," said Rep. Mike Honda, D-Calif., a self-described "poor country boy" who said he felt like a "freshman going to the senior prom" when he attended a White House reception for leaders of the congressional caucuses.
"Sometimes when you're in the presence of the most powerful person in the world, in the most powerful democracy in the world ... I was in awe that I was comfortable," said Honda, chairman of the Asian Pacific American Caucus. "I think that's his style and how he grew up, who he is.
"He's down to earth and engaging," Honda said.
Rep. Trent Franks, R-Ariz., was among those invited for the Super Bowl. He said Obama, an avid sports fan, joined his guests for most of the game between the Arizona Cardinals and ultimately triumphant Pittsburgh Steelers.
"It wasn't a circumstance where he came in and said 'Hi' and then left," Franks said. "He actually stayed and watched the game."
Sen. Amy Klobuchar, D-Minn, said Obama was very cordial, and he and the first lady made guests feel comfortable. The president talked to everyone before the game started, she said, including a 12-year-old boy who asked Obama where the bathroom was.
"My favorite part was when he personally served us cookies — oatmeal raisin — when we were watching the game," she said.
The gathering in the White House theater over hot dogs and hamburgers was one of several get-to-know-the-members events Obama held as he lobbied Congress to support his nearly $800 billion economic recovery package. His efforts produced no Republica

JONGSSTRAW

Friday, March 6, 2009 1:51 PM

They want the Markets to crash.
They love when the markets crash.
They want everyone to be destitute so they can be dependent on the Govt.& Democrat social pity programs.
They hate entrepeneurs and small business folks.
All these political MFers were born with a silver dildo in their mouths, never having actually done an honest day's work in their life. Champaigne and partying & being entertained by superstars, while average Americans go broke. That's the CHANGE they've wrought on us. They should all choke on their caviar and cracked crab.

KWICKO

Friday, March 6, 2009 2:19 PM

Quote:
All these political MFers were born with a silver dildo in their mouths, never having actually done an honest day's work in their life. Champaigne and partying & being entertained by superstars, while average Americans go broke.

Aren't you describing Dubya? Silver dildo up his ass, silver spoon in his nose, never a day's work... Yeah, that sounds like Dubya all right!

Mike

I can't run no more
with that lawless crowd
while the killers in high places
say their prayers out loud.
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
a thundercloud
and they're going to hear from me.

- Anthem, by Leonard Cohen

CHRISISALL

Friday, March 6, 2009 2:35 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
They want the Markets to crash.
They love when the markets crash.
They want everyone to be destitute so they can be dependent on the Govt.& Democrat social pity programs.
They hate entrepeneurs and small business folks.
All these political MFers were born with a silver dildo in their mouths, never having actually done an honest day's work in their life. Champaigne and partying & being entertained by superstars, while average Americans go broke. That's the CHANGE they've wrought on us. They should all choke on their caviar and cracked crab.

If you change it to: They want everyone to be destitute so they can be dependent on the Govt.& Neocon terror tactics.
And you precisely got the most recent slum lords of the country.

"Thanks." -Hero, 2009

The laughing Chrisisall

AURAPTOR

Friday, March 6, 2009 2:45 PM

Necon terror tactics ?

So the hundreds of Islmo-terrorist attacks around the globe over the past 10 - 15 years are merely a GOP spin device ?

Wow.

I mean, I've heard a lot of crazy shit , but ...

wow.

It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager

A concern of the GOP is that the people aren't informed enough to understand their policies, while a fear of the Dems is that the people ARE.

CHRISISALL

Friday, March 6, 2009 2:57 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:

So the hundreds of Islmo-terrorist attacks around the globe over the past 10 - 15 years are merely a GOP spin device ?

In the words of the great Ronald Reagan, "There you go again."

See little 'RAPtor, what they do is take an event & blow it all up to be a big bad that will get us, then while we do all this political in-fighting in silly bids for bits of power here & there, they slip in & hit us with a few well-chosen fully fueled planes. So, we let the attack happen right under our noses, & we STILL didn't learn our lesson. Do we listen to the peeps doing the job on the ground? No, we STILL play politics in the intelligence community, CYA style, but we waste time monitoring EVERY phone call possible, invading countries that do not threaten us & torturing peeps. I'm sorry, waterboarding & beating them. We never tortured, right?

"Thanks." -Hero, 2009

The laughing Chrisisall

JONGSSTRAW

Friday, March 6, 2009 3:02 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:
Quote:
All these political MFers were born with a silver dildo in their mouths, never having actually done an honest day's work in their life. Champaigne and partying & being entertained by superstars, while average Americans go broke.

Aren't you describing Dubya? Silver dildo up his ass, silver spoon in his nose, never a day's work... Yeah, that sounds like Dubya all right!

Mike

I can't run no more
with that lawless crowd
while the killers in high places
say their prayers out loud.
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
a thundercloud
and they're going to hear from me.

- Anthem, by Leonard Cohen

Ah, the broken record keeps a'scratchin' with the Bush bashing. When, oh when will you come up with something, anything not Bush-hatred related? Is that ever even going to be possible for you? It's meaningless and dishonest, sad and pathetic. You must have something else to base your life on other than the tired old Bush hatred you've carried around for 10 years, dontcha by golly?

CHRISISALL

Friday, March 6, 2009 3:07 PM

I really disliked Reagan.
I didn't care for Bush Sr.
I resented Clinton.
But Bush Jr. was a whole new level of bad for our country & the world. I can see why the hate still lingers.

"Thanks." -Hero, 2009

The laughing Chrisisall

AURAPTOR

Friday, March 6, 2009 3:09 PM

Chris, you've already forgotten what happened on 9/11, that much is clear.

Further, you'd want us all to forget what happened in Spain, London, and the massacre in Beslan, Russia.

Hell yeah I want to torture those who'd murder 1000's of innocents, and you'd be screaming your lungs out if we didn't, and we got hit again. And again.

This isn't a fucking game, and this isn't some romantic novel you're reading pal, this is real life. The sooner you appeasers realize this, the better.

It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager

A concern of the GOP is that the people aren't informed enough to understand their policies, while a fear of the Dems is that the people ARE.

CHRISISALL

Friday, March 6, 2009 3:26 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Chris, you've already forgotten what happened on 9/11, that much is clear.

Not really, it happened 40 miles from where I was working that day, and right in front of my brother-in-law who worked in an adjacent building.

Difference between U & me is, I want THE BADS GUYS to pay for it, not EVERYONE IN THE MID-EAST WE DON'T HAPPEN TO LIKE.

"Thanks." -Hero, 2009

The laughing Chrisisall

KWICKO

Friday, March 6, 2009 3:33 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:
Quote:
All these political MFers were born with a silver dildo in their mouths, never having actually done an honest day's work in their life. Champaigne and partying & being entertained by superstars, while average Americans go broke.

Aren't you describing Dubya? Silver dildo up his ass, silver spoon in his nose, never a day's work... Yeah, that sounds like Dubya all right!

Mike

I can't run no more
with that lawless crowd
while the killers in high places
say their prayers out loud.
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
a thundercloud
and they're going to hear from me.

- Anthem, by Leonard Cohen

Ah, the broken record keeps a'scratchin' with the Bush bashing. When, oh when will you come up with something, anything not Bush-hatred related? Is that ever even going to be possible for you? It's meaningless and dishonest, sad and pathetic. You must have something else to base your life on other than the tired old Bush hatred you've carried around for 10 years, dontcha by golly?

I'll probably stop hating Bush about the same time you stop hating Obama & Clinton. Sound good to you?

KWICKO

Friday, March 6, 2009 3:34 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Chris, you've already forgotten what happened on 9/11, that much is clear.

Further, you'd want us all to forget what happened in Spain, London, and the massacre in Beslan, Russia.

Hell yeah I want to torture those who'd murder 1000's of innocents, and you'd be screaming your lungs out if we didn't, and we got hit again. And again.

This isn't a fucking game, and this isn't some romantic novel you're reading pal, this is real life. The sooner you appeasers realize this, the better.

It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager

A concern of the GOP is that the people aren't informed enough to understand their policies, while a fear of the Dems is that the people ARE.

And you're not Jack Ryan, nor are you Jack Bauer.

CHRISISALL

Friday, March 6, 2009 3:36 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:

And you're not Jack Ryan, nor are you Jack Bauer.

AuLap doesn't know jack.

"Thanks." -Hero, 2009

The laughing Chrisisall

DICKCHENEY

Friday, March 6, 2009 3:43 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Necon terror tactics ?

So the hundreds of Islmo-terrorist attacks around the globe over the past 10 - 15 years are merely a GOP spin device ?

Wow.

I mean, I've heard a lot of crazy shit , but ...

wow.

It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager

A concern of the GOP is that the people aren't informed enough to understand their policies, while a fear of the Dems is that the people ARE.

Go Fuck Yourself!

AURAPTOR

Friday, March 6, 2009 3:48 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:

Difference between U & me is, I want THE BADS GUYS to pay for it, not EVERYONE IN THE MID-EAST WE DON'T HAPPEN TO LIKE.

And what if they're one and the same ?

It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager

A concern of the GOP is that the people aren't informed enough to understand their policies, while a fear of the Dems is that the people ARE.

CHRISISALL

Friday, March 6, 2009 3:52 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:

And what if they're one and the same ?

Predictably simple thinking.

Saddam was not responsible for 9-11, didn't you get the memo?

"Thanks." -Hero, 2009

The laughing Chrisisall

AURAPTOR

Friday, March 6, 2009 4:17 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:

And what if they're one and the same ?

Predictably simple thinking.
Saddam was not responsible for 9-11, didn't you get the memo?

For the 994th time, I never CLAIMED Saddam was about 9/11. Why do you on the Left continue in promoting that faerie tale ?

It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager

A concern of the GOP is that the people aren't informed enough to understand their policies, while a fear of the Dems is that the people ARE.

CHRISISALL

Friday, March 6, 2009 4:22 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:

For the 994th time, I never CLAIMED Saddam was about 9/11. Why do you on the Left continue in promoting that faerie tale ?

Sorry, your "one and the same" comment led me to believe...
Never mind.
So we spent trillions and lost 3000+ soldiers in Iraq just to enforce a resolution that had been superseded, for an entity we don't always listen to anyway (UN). Huh.
Doesn't seem like such a bargain to me.

"Thanks." -Hero, 2009

The laughing Chrisisall

AURAPTOR

Friday, March 6, 2009 4:30 PM

Iraq did indeed happen after 9/11. But we were dealing w/ Saddam long before, and there was much talk of doing more to Saddam prior to Bush even being in the White House. Big talk from most of the Democrats. Likely they were just mimicking what the Right said, so as to appease the voters. Or maybe they really believed what they said, seeing how it would be Clinton who'd get the accolades, if we ever did act on Iraq.

But we went into Afghanistan over a full YEAR before we went into Iraq. Most folks have forgotten that detail.

It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager

A concern of the GOP is that the people aren't informed enough to understand their policies, while a fear of the Dems is that the people ARE.

CHRISISALL

Friday, March 6, 2009 4:33 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:

But we went into Afghanistan over a full YEAR before we went into Iraq. Most folks have forgotten that detail.

Yes, Bush used that foothold to tend to his pet project to make his daddy proud. And suckers like yourself applauded his getting our troops killed & injured so he could feel like a success for once in his life.

"Thanks." -Hero, 2009

The laughing Chrisisall

AURAPTOR

Friday, March 6, 2009 4:39 PM

Oh, there was the tiny matter of Saddam attempting to assassinate our former President. Nations have gone to full blown war over such matters. Were it not for the decades long list of U.N. resolutions, sanctions and violations by Iraq, you might have a case. But Saddam was daring the world to do something for all those years, before Bush got to D.C., and no one did a damn thing.

It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager

A concern of the GOP is that the people aren't informed enough to understand their policies, while a fear of the Dems is that the people ARE.

CHRISISALL

Friday, March 6, 2009 4:53 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Saddam was daring the world to do something for all those years, before Bush got to D.C., and no one did a damn thing.

And it was somehow OUR job to waste American lives, the live of troops from a dozen other countries, and begin a three trillion dollar war debt to call his dare.
You are the one playing games here, young biped.

"Thanks." -Hero, 2009

The laughing Chrisisall

AURAPTOR

Friday, March 6, 2009 5:46 PM

3 trillion is what Obama plans on spending this weekend.

It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager

A concern of the GOP is that the people aren't informed enough to understand their policies, while a fear of the Dems is that the people ARE.

JADEHAND

Friday, March 6, 2009 5:47 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:

Saddam was not responsible for 9-11, didn't you get the memo?

Germany and it's leadership at the time wasn't responsible for Pearl Harbor, we should've left those poor guys alone. I mean really, It was only mass murder based on race. Who cares?

on torture: *sigh* really?! Imagine a man (maybe even someone you don't care for, like me, or one of the people you tend to insult rather than discuss views with) has the code to the explosives strapped to the chests of your wife and kids. He's tied to a chair, and he ain't talkin'. There are a pair of pliers, a razor, rubbing alcohol, and wonderful little clips attached to a car battery on a table beside them. You do nothing? Really? You do nothing? I applaud your resolve.
Now.... go tell your wife and children that if you had the chance to save their lives, you wouldn't bother.

You are either a Liar or a Coward.

I'm not saying torture is right. I don't support it being used randomly just to see if people know things. However, in the cases that it may have been used to glean information that saved lives..(possibly even mine, or those of greater value, the ones I care for).. I salute those that used it.

"I've looked into a million laughing unhappinesses. In every bar and on the TV. But I know the real thing. I can remember. I can almost tell you how it is." - Trap the Spark - Happiness is the Road - Marillion
"Our forefathers died for the pursuit of happiness, not the sit around and wait for happiness." -Barney -HIMYM

JADEHAND

Friday, March 6, 2009 5:49 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
And it was somehow OUR job to waste American lives,

If you believe they were wasted...... I pity you.

"I've looked into a million laughing unhappinesses. In every bar and on the TV. But I know the real thing. I can remember. I can almost tell you how it is." - Trap the Spark - Happiness is the Road - Marillion
"Our forefathers died for the pursuit of happiness, not the sit around and wait for happiness." -Barney -HIMYM

CHRISISALL

Friday, March 6, 2009 5:50 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Jadehand:

on torture: *sigh* really?! Imagine a man (maybe even someone you don't care for, like me, or one of the people you tend to insult rather than discuss views with) has the code to the explosives strapped to the chests of your wife and kids.

*sarcastic sigh*
Another arrested adolescent raised on "TJ Hooker" & "24."

"Thanks." -Hero, 2009

The laughing Chrisisall

CHRISISALL

Friday, March 6, 2009 5:51 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Jadehand:

If you believe they were wasted...... I pity you.

If you believe that they weren't, I pity your children.

"Thanks." -Hero, 2009

The serious Chrisisall

JADEHAND

Friday, March 6, 2009 5:55 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:
Originally posted by Jadehand:

on torture: *sigh* really?! Imagine a man (maybe even someone you don't care for, like me, or one of the people you tend to insult rather than discuss views with) has the code to the explosives strapped to the chests of your wife and kids.
*sarcastic sigh*
Another arrested adolescent raised on "TJ Hooker" & "24."

"Thanks." -Hero, 2009

The laughing Chrisisall

I hope you get what you want.
No, I really do.
you deserve everything you want.

CHRISISALL

Friday, March 6, 2009 5:57 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Jadehand:

I hope you get what you want.
No, I really do.
you deserve everything you want.

Well, what I want is world peace & a 36" LED TV, but, you know....

"Thanks." -Hero, 2009

The laughing Chrisisall

JADEHAND

Friday, March 6, 2009 6:00 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:
Originally posted by Jadehand:

If you believe they were wasted...... I pity you.

If you believe that they weren't, I pity your children.

"Thanks." -Hero, 2009

The serious Chrisisall

JADEHAND

Friday, March 6, 2009 6:02 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:
Originally posted by Jadehand:

I hope you get what you want.
No, I really do.
you deserve everything you want.
Well, what I want is world peace & a 36" LED TV, but, you know....

"Thanks." -Hero, 2009

The laughing Chrisisall

Ah. Now I understand how selfish and unrealistic you are.

CHRISISALL

Friday, March 6, 2009 6:06 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Jadehand:
Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:
Originally posted by Jadehand:

If you believe they were wasted...... I pity you.

If you believe that they weren't, I pity your children.

I mean by that that someday you might send off one of your kids to fight a threat to this country as immediate & imminent as Saddam.
Biped.

"Thanks." -Hero, 2009

The laughing Chrisisall

CHRISISALL

Friday, March 6, 2009 6:09 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Jadehand:

Ah. Now I understand how selfish and unrealistic you are.

Ah. Now I understand you have no sense of humour, a certain sign that the beliefs you espouse are rooted in uncertainty. We must talk again when you figure out that Magnum PI was entertainment, not a blueprint for realistic behaviour.

"Thanks." -Hero, 2009

The laughing Chrisisall

JADEHAND

Friday, March 6, 2009 6:11 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:
Originally posted by Jadehand:
Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:
Originally posted by Jadehand:

If you believe they were wasted...... I pity you.

If you believe that they weren't, I pity your children.

I mean by that that someday you might send off one of your kids to fight a threat to this country as immediate & imminent as Saddam.
Biped.

"Thanks." -Hero, 2009

The laughing Chrisisall

I like how you use "biped" as an insult(as if you are superior), Mehum. If I were selfish enough to bring a child into this world, I'd be honored if they chose to fight for the rights of others. Even if their fight was unsuccessful.

CHRISISALL

Friday, March 6, 2009 6:16 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Jadehand:

I like how you use "biped" as an insult(as if you are superior)

You'll never catch ME not walkin' on all fours, I tell ya!

Quote:
I'd be honored if they chose to fight for the rights of others.

So, that's what you thought we were in Iraq for, eh?

Remember to vote for Unification now, y'hear!

"Thanks." -Hero, 2009

The laughing Chrisisall

JADEHAND

Friday, March 6, 2009 6:18 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:
Originally posted by Jadehand:

Ah. Now I understand how selfish and unrealistic you are.
Ah. Now I understand you have no sense of humour, a certain sign that the beliefs you espouse are rooted in uncertainty. We must talk again when you figure out that Magnum PI was entertainment, not a blueprint for realistic behaviour.

"Thanks." -Hero, 2009

The laughing Chrisisall

but..... *gasp*..... Magnum was my idol......

I'm so glad that you are such a happy man. ignorance is bliss. I wish I could be so ignorant. Deities no longer listen.

JADEHAND

Friday, March 6, 2009 6:20 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:
Originally posted by Jadehand:

I like how you use "biped" as an insult(as if you are superior)
You'll never catch ME not walkin' on all fours, I tell ya!
Quote:
I'd be honored if they chose to fight for the rights of others.
So, that's what you thought we were in Iraq for, eh?

Remember to vote for Unification now, y'hear!

"Thanks." -Hero, 2009

The laughing Chrisisall

Sorry Chris. I voted against that. You voted for it.... whore.

CHRISISALL

Friday, March 6, 2009 6:22 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Jadehand:

but..... *gasp*..... Magnum was my idol......

Yeah. I still have the final episode on old-fashioned videotape. I cried when he walked away with his little girl...*snif*

"Thanks." -Hero, 2009

The laughing Chrisisall

CHRISISALL

Friday, March 6, 2009 6:23 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Jadehand:

Sorry Chris. I voted against that. You voted for it.... whore.

I ain't no boy-whore and I would not vote for it!

I'm one of them inipenants!

"Thanks." -Hero, 2009

The laughing Chrisisall

SIGNYM

Friday, March 6, 2009 6:28 PM

Quote:
Were it not for the decades long list of U.N. resolutions

None of which counted anymore....

My God, you ARE stupid!!!

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It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine.

AURAPTOR

Friday, March 6, 2009 6:30 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
Quote:
Were it not for the decades long list of U.N. resolutions
None of which counted anymore....

My God, you ARE stupid!!!

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It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine.

They all counted. God, you are incredibly stupid.

It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager

A concern of the GOP is that the people aren't informed enough to understand their policies, while a fear of the Dems is that the people ARE.

CHRISISALL

Friday, March 6, 2009 6:33 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:

They all counted.

Please read the final one, just for yourself, I won't even say we told you so.

"Thanks." -Hero, 2009

The laughing Chrisisall

SIGNYM

Friday, March 6, 2009 6:39 PM

Quote:
They all counted. God, you are incredibly stupid.

Until they were superseded by UN Resolution 1441. Please, look up the meaning of the word. Read the resolution. Do some googling to find out for yourself.

I'd call you a retard, except that retards don't make that choice voluntarily. You do.

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It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine.

JADEHAND

Friday, March 6, 2009 6:47 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
Quote:
Were it not for the decades long list of U.N. resolutions
None of which counted anymore....

My God, you ARE stupid!!!

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It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine.

OMG!!!!!
SIG you quoted someone opposed to your infantile believes. and you quoted a pacifists....pussifists band too.... you rock!

If only couwardice was valued.

"Die!" "Die!" "Die! you Mother Fucker!"

JONGSSTRAW

Friday, March 6, 2009 6:55 PM

Signy has nothing to say anymore other than calling people stupid. I guess when your messiah turns out to be a liar and a fraud, it's hard to defend in any sort of rational way. Yep, all us Obama/Pelosi detractors must be stupid 'cause Signy says so. I think I may write that down on my blackboard at work a few hundred times today. I may find enlightment in the process.

SIGNYM

Friday, March 6, 2009 6:55 PM

Did you say something Jade? It's inexplicably unintelligble...

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It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine.

RUE

Friday, March 6, 2009 7:03 PM

OMG. Having performances and watching TV at the WH - seriously illegal. Probably a violation of some federal criminal statute. I think Obama needs to be impeached for it.

Get right on it ! You go Rap, the Wonder Dog! Go boy, fetch !

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Silence is consent.

CITIZEN

Friday, March 6, 2009 7:06 PM

You're all stupid and smell of Cheese. FRENCH cheese.

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.

KWICKO

Friday, March 6, 2009 7:17 PM

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Big talk from most of the Democrats. Likely they were just mimicking what the Right said, so as to appease the voters. Or maybe they really believed what they said, seeing how it would be Clinton who'd get the accolades, if we ever did act on Iraq.

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"Accolades"? Fuck, man, are you deluded? Wait - I already know the answer to that one - of course yo are.

How are those "accolades" working out for Bush? How's that whole "accolade" working out for the economy?

Y'know, it's seldom that I think of the late LBJ without thinking, "Well, there was a man's man - he was a fantastic president, and his proudest and greatest achievement was getting us ever-deeper into that utter shit-hole in Viet Nam. Yup, that had to be the best thing he ever did, and I'm proud to shower him with accolades for it!"

You, sir, are a straight-up fucking moron. And you've just proven it once again, in spades.

Mike

KWICKO

Friday, March 6, 2009 7:19 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
3 trillion is what Obama plans on spending this weekend.

It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager

A concern of the GOP is that the people aren't informed enough to understand their policies, while a fear of the Dems is that the people ARE.

That still won't put him on a par with Bush. Still got quite a few trillion to go to catch up to that douchebag.

KWICKO

Friday, March 6, 2009 7:25 PM

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Originally posted by Jadehand:
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Originally posted by chrisisall:

Saddam was not responsible for 9-11, didn't you get the memo?

Germany and it's leadership at the time wasn't responsible for Pearl Harbor, we should've left those poor guys alone. I mean really, It was only mass murder based on race. Who cares?

on torture: *sigh* really?! Imagine a man (maybe even someone you don't care for, like me, or one of the people you tend to insult rather than discuss views with) has the code to the explosives strapped to the chests of your wife and kids. He's tied to a chair, and he ain't talkin'. There are a pair of pliers, a razor, rubbing alcohol, and wonderful little clips attached to a car battery on a table beside them. You do nothing? Really? You do nothing? I applaud your resolve.
Now.... go tell your wife and children that if you had the chance to save their lives, you wouldn't bother.

You are either a Liar or a Coward.

I'm not saying torture is right. I don't support it being used randomly just to see if people know things. However, in the cases that it may have been used to glean information that saved lives..(possibly even mine, or those of greater value, the ones I care for).. I salute those that used it.

"I've looked into a million laughing unhappinesses. In every bar and on the TV. But I know the real thing. I can remember. I can almost tell you how it is." - Trap the Spark - Happiness is the Road - Marillion
"Our forefathers died for the pursuit of happiness, not the sit around and wait for happiness." -Barney -HIMYM

Jade, you really need to go back and bone up on your history. Germany WASN'T involved with Pearl Harbor - you're right about that. Where you go off the rails is in thinking that our reaction to Pearl Harbor was to attack Germany. That's dead wrong.

Germany had an alliance with Japan and Italy (maybe you've heard of the "Axis" powers?), by which terms, if anyone declared war on ONE of them, the other two were obligated to declare war on them. The day after Pearl Harbor, the U.S. did indeed declare war on Japan - and immediately following that, Germany declared war on the U.S.

So while we tried to stay out of WWII as long as possible, in the end we only got pulled into the European Theatre because WE were declared war upon by Germany, not the other way 'round.

And last I checked, Iraq didn't declare war on us when we went into Afghanistan. So your analogy falls apart on every level.

Mike

KWICKO

Friday, March 6, 2009 7:26 PM

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Originally posted by Jadehand:
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
And it was somehow OUR job to waste American lives,

If you believe they were wasted...... I pity you.

"I've looked into a million laughing unhappinesses. In every bar and on the TV. But I know the real thing. I can remember. I can almost tell you how it is." - Trap the Spark - Happiness is the Road - Marillion
"Our forefathers died for the pursuit of happiness, not the sit around and wait for happiness." -Barney -HIMYM

If you believe they weren't... I pity you.

Mike

KWICKO

Friday, March 6, 2009 7:34 PM

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Originally posted by Jadehand:
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Originally posted by SignyM:
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Were it not for the decades long list of U.N. resolutions
None of which counted anymore....

My God, you ARE stupid!!!

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It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine.

OMG!!!!!
SIG you quoted someone opposed to your infantile believes. and you quoted a pacifists....pussifists band too.... you rock!

If only couwardice was valued.

"Die!" "Die!" "Die! you Mother Fucker!"

Yeah, we put far too low a value on "couwardice" - whatever the hell THAT is.

My, my, you have really shown yourself to be quite the idiot, haven't you?

I really LOVE having folk like you, WhoZit, and AuLapdog as the "spokespeople" for the conservative cause around here. You make it so much easier to show you up for the cavemen you are.

Chris calling you a biped is really an insult to bipeds everywhere. I mean, I have no doubt that you haven't figured out how to walk upright yet, you mouth-breathing knuckledragger.

Mike

KWICKO

Friday, March 6, 2009 7:37 PM

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Signy has nothing to say anymore other than calling people stupid. I guess when your messiah turns out to be a liar and a fraud, it's hard to defend in any sort of rational way. Yep, all us Obama/Pelosi detractors must be stupid 'cause Signy says so. I think I may write that down on my blackboard at work a few hundred times today. I may find enlightment in the process.

Well, there is ONE other thing you can do when your messiah turns out to be a liar and fraud: You can go around crying and whining about how everybody else has this "Bush Derangement Syndrome" you've invented, then you can sit around for a few months crying in your beer about how fucked the Republican party is.

I mean, that IS how you dealt with the news that your messiah Dubya is a fraud and a liar and that McCain was no better, right?

Mike

SIGNYM

Friday, March 6, 2009 8:05 PM

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Signy has nothing to say anymore other than calling people stupid.

I have LOTS to say besides calling people stupid. I can't help it if you're too... stupid... to understand what I've said.

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I guess when your messiah turns out to be a liar and a fraud,

MY messiah? When did I ever present Obama as The Answer? Quote me on that- I double dog dare ya!

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Yep, all us Obama/Pelosi detractors must be stupid 'cause Signy says so. I think I may write that down on my blackboard at work a few hundred times today. I may find enlightment in the process.

I dunno, give it a try! It may help!

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It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine.

PIRATENEWS

Friday, March 6, 2009 8:17 PM

Hussein Obama and a little black ho were on CSPAN this week.

She did a really professional job handing out NAMETAGS in the White House, like that was the most important job in the world.

Like it was a cruise ship. USS Titanic.

JONGSSTRAW

Friday, March 6, 2009 8:31 PM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
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Signy has nothing to say anymore other than calling people stupid.
I have LOTS to say besides calling people stupid. I can't help it if you're too... stupid... to understand what I've said.
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I guess when your messiah turns out to be a liar and a fraud,
MY messiah? When did I ever present Obama as The Answer? Quote me on that- I double dog dare ya!
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Yep, all us Obama/Pelosi detractors must be stupid 'cause Signy says so. I think I may write that down on my blackboard at work a few hundred times today. I may find enlightment in the process.
I dunno, give it a try! It may help!

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YOU spend YOUR time carefully dissecting my post & then you call ME stupid? I'm LOL at your startling immaturity, and your juvenile attempts to intimidate others here is a hoot and a half. Actually, considering the company of those you've called stupid lately, I consider it an honor.

SIGNYM

Friday, March 6, 2009 8:33 PM

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Like it was a cruise ship. USS Titanic.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

Anyhoo... Keynsian increases in money supply are mere patches over the inbridgeable internal gap within capitalism. Ultimately, neither capitalism nor monetary bandaids will work.

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It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine.

KWICKO

Friday, March 6, 2009 10:13 PM

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Originally posted by piratenews:
Hussein Obama and a little black ho were on CSPAN this week.

She did a really professional job handing out NAMETAGS in the White House, like that was the most important job in the world.

Like it was a cruise ship. USS Titanic.

And all this time I thought your wife was Jewish...

Mike

CHRISISALL

Friday, March 6, 2009 10:24 PM

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
I guess when your messiah turns out to be a liar and a fraud

Ain't MY messiah. He just a nicer & smarter guy than Bush is all. But that could be said of a lot of folk.

"Thanks." -Hero, 2009

The laughing Chrisisall

AURAPTOR

Saturday, March 7, 2009 1:54 AM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:

That still won't put him on a par with Bush. Still got quite a few trillion to go to catch up to that douchebag.

Dude, you've lost what little amount of reason you had left. Obama is the DOUCHE BAG who's spending FAR more than Bush ever did, and it's all bull shit spending. NONE of that will result in expanding the economy or generating new jobs, it's purely the transfer of wealth from the haves to the have nots. And it sure the hell isn't EMERGENCY spending. Most of it won't take effect for over a year. Or two. So much for ' to the rescue ' PrezBo.

It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager

A concern of the GOP is that the people aren't informed enough to understand their policies, while a fear of the Dems is that the people ARE.

JADEHAND

Saturday, March 7, 2009 2:01 AM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:

Germany had an alliance with Japan and Italy (maybe you've heard of the "Axis" powers?), by which terms, if anyone declared war on ONE of them, the other two were obligated to declare war on them. The day after Pearl Harbor, the U.S. did indeed declare war on Japan - and immediately following that, Germany declared war on the U.S.

So while we tried to stay out of WWII as long as possible, in the end we only got pulled into the European Theatre because WE were declared war upon by Germany, not the other way 'round.

And last I checked, Iraq didn't declare war on us when we went into Afghanistan. So your analogy falls apart on every level.

Mike

Hey Mike... you almost got the point.

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Originally posted by Kwicko:

My, my, you have really shown yourself to be quite the idiot, haven't you?

I really LOVE having folk like you, WhoZit, and AuLapdog as the "spokespeople" for the conservative cause around here. You make it so much easier to show you up for the cavemen you are.

Chris calling you a biped is really an insult to bipeds everywhere. I mean, I have no doubt that you haven't figured out how to walk upright yet, you mouth-breathing knuckledragger.

Mike

Really? the best you can do is call out a typo when I'm drunk? Hahahaha.

RUE

Saturday, March 7, 2009 2:01 AM

S'wenyways, for the still faintly rational (you can go now, Rap)

One of the many serious problems for the US economy, and a cautionary story that will be you, someday:

We went broke paying medical bills--and we're insured

I'm in shock right now. A spouse's cancer diagnosis should be enough for any couple to deal with. But no. I see an impending tsunami of medical bills rushing our way, and there is no escape.

We have health insurance. But we chose the "catastrophic" option for four years, hoping that taking on more risk would save some money. The "catastrophic" option cost us nothing in premiums, while the "richer" option would have cost $4,000/year in premiums deducted from my paycheck. I could see no way to afford that, not on our income of $48,900 gross last year (I'm the sole support of a family of five.)

The "catastrophic" option had a $1,000 deductible and the obligation to pay 50% of the next $20,000. Okay, $11,000 would be steep, but what was the likelihood of that happening? We were both healthy. We took the gamble, and for three years, we won.

Along comes year four. We're one month into the 2008 fiscal year, that's back last August. Suddenly, Will is in excruciating pain. Emergency surgery is required for a perianal cyst. Below are the medical bills for this, captured from my computer screen from the claims administrator. A quick explanation. Allowed amount is what the insurer considers "reasonable & customary," and that usually brings the cost down significantly. Paid amount is what the insurer actually is responsible for paying, taking deductibles and the percentage the insured person is responsible for into consideration. Patient liability is what we the insured must pay.
Cha-ching: Patient liability $1668

So far, not so bad. We can manage $1668.

But that's just the start. The surgeon recommends a routine colonoscopy for Will. Our insurer tells us they cover it at 100%--this is an extra perk written into our insurance plan. Okay, let's do it. Will's not looking forward to it, but he finally schedules his colonoscopy for December 27, 2008.

I go with him that day. There's a jarring little caveat emptor sign that I notice. "Hey," I say to Will, pointing out the sign. "Look at that." The sign says that patients should check their insurance coverage. Most insurance plans that pay for a colonoscopy screening at 100% will get stingy on you if it turns out you have a problem. Then, buddy, all bets are off. Then it's considered a "therapeutic" colonoscopy, and it's subject to deductibles and coinsurance. "Talk about kicking someone when they're down," I say. Will just shakes his head. He lived 22 years in New Zealand and 23 in Australia. Both countries offer absolutely free health care to anyone who needs it, even visitors. There is a nominal charge for prescription drugs. Will still hasn't gotten over our having to pay so much for his emergency surgery back in August. He was, and still is, horrified at the barbaric way the U.S. treats those who are ill.

Fast forward two hours. Will is emerging from his anesthetized sleep. The colonoscopy is over? That wasn't so bad. Except, wait, there's the surgeon. He begins saying words that neither Will nor I can grasp. Will has a medium-sized mass in his colon. The doctor recommends that eight to ten inches of Will's colon be removed. This will require a five to seven day hospital stay. We should do this soon.

"Are you sure it's malignant?"

He nods with certainty. The biopsy will identify exactly what kind of malignancy, but he's sure. He wants Will to have something called a cat pet scan, to see if there are any other tumors. Will and I consult briefly. Will's $1000 deductible is paid for the calendar year. If we do this right away, we won't have to start 2009 paying his deductible all over again. We schedule the surgery for December 31. Hell of a way to ring in the new year.
Cha-ching: Patient liability $1434

Above, you can see the charges for the cat pet (first item) and t

SIGNYM

Saturday, March 7, 2009 2:09 AM

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it's purely the transfer of wealth from the haves to the have nots

I wish. THAT might actually get the economy going! Unfortunately, Obama seems to be working on the Bush plan: from the have-nots to the haves.

Those poor real estate tycoons and bank executives. My heart just effing bleeds for them!

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It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine.

FREMDFIRMA

Saturday, March 7, 2009 9:10 AM

I feel ya.

Out of the blue, bang, hit by a car.

But it gets better - just imagine if instead of covering the bare minimum they could get away with covering, if your insurance company said "Ha! MAKE us!" and the State Insurance Comissioner declines to force em, then what ?

Then you're out the premiums AND you wind up paying the whole shebang, and that happens a LOT, especially these days.

I think I detailed quite a bit of it around here a time or two, and it's a damned ugly and near fatal tale, fact of the matter is the worst damage didn't come from the accident but rather from a combination of greed, neglect and downright maliciousness from the medical care system.

And despite all that, I was on the hook for about $75,000.00USD, till they ran afoul of an audit and it was more like $56,000.00USD, that is!

This was University of MD Hospital, just so ya know, if you ever wind up there go through that bill with a fine tooth comb, cause it was a wonderful pastiche of fraud and chicanery, billing for procedures never done, medications never given, even some pretty serious X-rays they didn't bother to actually take (often when a doc changes their mind, no one tells the billing ppl..) and so on and so forth.

They didn't expect to deal with a mistrusting, paranoiac little bastard who'd actually keep TRACK - which I did, from the moment I regained consciousness, I documented everything, in detail, and kept it in a bag around my neck that I would NOT let go of even in my sleep.

That bag saved my ass, when it came to cases.

Eventually I squared it, having an advantage of the opportunity to make money hand over fist and few damn moral qualms as to how, and given the folks I was burning for it - neither would you in that situation.

Let's just say I sat on the weaknesses of third party billing systems used by the predators for a while before I handed that info to law enforcement contacts - and I had few expenses since the folks who enlisted me immediately following the abysmal and deliberate failure of Operation Innocent Images were providing food and medical supplies, so ALL the income from raiding the bastards went to paying off that damn bill hanging over my head like a ten ton weight.

And having nothing else to DO at the time but wait for the legal wrangling to get sorted out before I died from medical neglect, I spent every lucid moment being a seriously larcenous pain in the ass to the entrenched predators that various online services were looking the other way for with a nod and a wink.

When things started to get better, cause of the piss poor quality and shoddy design of prosthetics at the time, especially in my case where most doctors were tellin me to resign myself to a wheelchair - I got into prosthetic design despite the lack of any "formal" education beyond a high school degree, and in exchange for cut-rate or even gratis prosthetics and material, hand the design work, additions and refinements to folks who have the paper to legitimately apply them.

I know damn well, and so do you, had I gone the round and round with the patent office it'd have taken decades, and some medical equipment company would have done a design lift, made a few cosmetic changes and marketed their own for five times the price, which you'd HAVE to pay, or your provider wouldn't cover it, nod nod, wink wink.

Fuck that, I wanted people to be able to use the goddamn things some time in my lifetime, and it does save a bundle cause even ONE of my units costs upwards of $35,000.00 for just the unfitted FRAME.

And half of that is what I call "bullshit costs" - stuff that costs ON PAPER some ridiculous amount of money to eat up your "coverage" as fast as possible so they can start billing you, but costs nowhere NEAR that for real.

Case in point, my wheelchair, which comes to $775.61 through my provider.

Anyone who's dealt with the medical care industry is used to seeing prices like this - these ARE after all, the same folks who charge $8.21USD for a single 200mg dose of Acetominophen.
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RUE

Sunday, March 8, 2009 3:20 AM

"Only caveat I would have is that if someone in their own right mind WANTS to try an unconventional or unproven treatment of their own free will, then FUCKING LET THEM - it's their body, their life, their choice."

I agree with that in principle, though I can see a problem in the details, which I address below.

"And while it grinds my gears to say it, folks with a religious, spiritual, or risk assessment gripe against a particular treatment for their kids NEED to be allowed to opt out ... it also does open the door for christian scientists to let their kids medical care swing in the breeze - and the mere thought is hurtful to me...."

Last past first - as it is to me. Again, I agree in general.

I think I would draw the line at infectious diseases. They have the potential to spread beyond the individual and become a risk to the society in general. In that case I think the society has the greater imperative to protect the many.

BTW Frem, I hope your leg is not bothering you too much. Aside from general good wishes, I also know that physical pain can hinder psychological healing.

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ETA: I think I'd also add that religious\ cultural etc assertions by parents would have to be proactively made by parents for each of their children by name. That would prevent parents from disappearing\ neglecting \ abusing their children (or others) and then claiming exemption after they were caught.

FREMDFIRMA

Sunday, March 8, 2009 12:48 PM

Well something infectious, that's a slam dunk - now, if they exercise the option to refuse treatment in such a case, which'd be pretty freakin rare, simply quarantine their home.

That solves the issues of private property, doesn't qualify as forced incarceration but rather the community seeing to it's own protection by defending THEIR property rights, yes ?

Ain't, yanno.. perfect, but it'll do.

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I think I'd also add that religious\ cultural etc assertions by parents would have to be proactively made by parents for each of their children by name. That would prevent parents from disappearing\ neglecting \ abusing their children (or others) and then claiming exemption after they were caught.

That's what I meant - an opt-out rather than having to opt-in, and yes it should be individually specific, if for no better reason than proper medical care is also individual.

That said, the first some-odd years would seriously suck though, have you seen how piss-poor the medicare administrative instructure is ?
We can damn well do better than that, and we really ought to!

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BTW Frem, I hope your leg is not bothering you too much. Aside from general good wishes, I also know that physical pain can hinder psychological healing.

Yeah, now if only someone would kick that concept up the ass of the DEA sideways - cause they consider actual pain control these days to be downright criminal, my freakin doc won't even prescribe 200mg ibuprofen, the same stuff you get over the counter, cause his ethnicity makes him a damn target, and so his patients have to do without.

Between racism and the war on (some) drugs, I am surprised the man still has a practice, cause his professionalism has already made him enemies within the local school system due to requiring an actual diagnosis of ADHD by a *specialist* prior to medicating it - that seriously pissed em off, and they kinda blacklisted him for it.

The leg is actually doing ok for now, walkin some rounds seemed to do a little good gettin the kinks out so long as I don't overdo it, but the general pain from a hard and violent life and the thousand little dings that didn't matter a damn when I was nineteen are a constant misery now, yeah.

EDIT: Took me a while to find this, I remember Maia doing the column, she's a pretty awesome writer on a number of fronts I've interest in.
Drug warriors put the fear of prosecution in physicians who dare to treat pain.
http://www.reason.com/news/show/29239.html

Bear in mind that through all that mess, barring a single weeks worth of darvocet right after the amputation, there was ZERO pain control meds, and due to financial issues I often had to make do with cheap generic aspirin in large doses which resulted in seriously unpleasant side effects.

Look at the suicide rate of patients with chronic pain in light of the above and you'll have a whole new light to view the DEA in.

They call it law enforcement - I call it murder.

-Frem
It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

FREMDFIRMA

Sunday, March 8, 2009 1:21 PM

Speaking of psychological healing, and since we're on the topic and for the moment (it's fixed, but it'll take a while for the fix to kick in) only the determined are able to reach the site, imma go into a semi-random direction with this cause it's on my mind lately.

It's been made mention that for some folk, issues from their childhood bite em on the ass all their life - either by being unable to overcome, or denial, or what have you...

But what if the issue caused an adaptation that you found useful, despite it's origin ?

See, my father was a prick, and from the day I popped out despite his vehement objections to that ever happening, I wasn't exactly welcome in his life, house or especially presence - to draw his notice was to draw his ire, ANY noise would start him up, and being seen but not heard would likewise get me railed at for being a sneak, and so....

I became the next best thing to invisible.
Silent as a ghost, subtle and swift as the wind.

This actually caused some issue because due to that little problem, I learned to read before fully developing speech, which means I pronounce everything like it's written, and have a slight speech impediment which I cover with a combination of west virgina accent and 20's era gangsterese.

I also used to be about as verbal as a brick wall, something which took years of concerted effort on behalf of friends and girlfriends to crack, and I still honestly *prefer* to communicate in text.

It's also annoyed the crap out of a few past girlfriends that I will not yell save in the most dire of circumstances, and will never for any reason yell at a child, knowing full well just how lastingly harmful that is even when it's not directed at them.

Even now, with a mechanical leg and my age and poor health riding my ass like the ghost of jack murphy, I still happen to be right damn sneaky - some of the customers that I did stand-in rounds for late/absent employees were disbelieving that the rounds actually got done, until presented with the punchwheel from inside the clock - then they were IMPRESSED, cause in at least one case it meant I had walked right past them and they never saw or heard me, leading to some ninja comparison, tho I pointed out I happen to be on the pirate side of that issue, myself.

What's brought it to mind so hard is that my new apartment, the neighbor who shares the back wall is pissed cause someone finally moved in here and she doesn't have a private little cottage no more - and she's a crazy bitch who'll start pounding on the wall if I so much as flush a toilet.

I do NOT make a lot of noise, and rarely do in the daytime anyhow cause I am friggin asleep cause I work nights, so you can imagine my ire based on that fact alone, cause trying to cook dinner or do laundry in midafternoon on a weekday only to have someone go fucking ballistic about it is annoying enough, but you know what ?

Every time she starts hitting that wall, some part of me hears my fathers heavy footsteps, just prior to his administration of the heavy cost for making him aware of my presence - and the shit's giving me flashbacks I really do not need right now.

I've done filed complaints, and flat told the management - she goes, or I do, cause I vowed that day, when I was five years old and jammed a steak knife in his calf when he rounded on my mother for trying to defend me, that I wasn't never, EVER gonna live in that kinda fear ever again, and I will be *damned* if I let that crazy old biddy try to put me there.

Imma be nice, for 23 days, let the management handle it like they should, and then, if they don't....

I'm NOT going to be nice.
One way or another she'll be leaving, either of her own in a huff...
Or in a straightjacket when I get done not bein nice.

Some things I just don't take, not from nobody.

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

FREMDFIRMA

Sunday, March 8, 2009 3:05 PM

Oh, btw...

Some heavy positive balance to that, mind.

We're winning more than ever, it looks like Pathway Family Center (A collective of WWASP concentration camps and their current primary source of income) is finally going down for the count, although like any stupid overgrown reptile it's gonna flail around in it's death throes for a while...

We've cost em a couple of facilities, and thanks to the veil of secrecy being ripped off by the tireless efforts of so many, without a rock to hide under any more these places are finally being caught out and exposed for what they are, causing the supply of new victims (and families to bill) to dry up, and thus starving these hellcamps of the money they need to operate - and with Romney exposed as their hook into politics, he's not likely to be able to get them any government slush right now since they're too busy bailing out the banksters, oh what a pity.

Projected impact as of 03/06/09 - full court press is on, and total implosion and final destruction of Synanon/Seed/WWASP in less than three years.

Pretty good progress for "No Such Thing/Conspiracy Theory/Does Not Exist" from back in 1982, and when I started this I never expected the end of it to come in my lifetime, but barring misadventure, looks like I will get to see the end of those bastards, and be around a while after with a wooden stake handy to make sure they stay down, too.

Thirty years is a long time, and for most of the twenty seven already passed, most of this was done by folks all too often carrying the burden alone - only in the past couple has there really been a concerted push to end this hidden tragedy, and most of the folks who started this never did get to see the end - but I will.

Won't get no statue for it, nor reknown or glory, hell, history will forget about me as if I never even existed, which is fine - here's for hoping that due to lack of prominence, those bastards are every bit as forgotten as well.

And then some day, when all involved have reached their final resting place - it'll be almost as if it never happened at all.

And that's all I ever really wanted.

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

CHRISISALL

Sunday, March 8, 2009 3:23 PM

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We're winning more than ever, it looks like Pathway Family Center (A collective of WWASP concentration camps and their current primary source of income) is finally going down for the count

Congratulations, Frem.

"Thanks." -Hero, 2009

The laughing Chrisisall

FREMDFIRMA

Sunday, March 8, 2009 3:28 PM

Thanks Chris,

Am digging through backlogged stuff right now, and came across another little tidbit, apparently Tranquility Bay is finally gone for good - we were expecting a rename/reopen, but they're auctioning the building and it's contents, if I can get a positive date on that I want a piece as a trophy.

And off to bed, I've been up too long as it is.

-F