Why not now fight for a animated firefly show?

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Thursday, March 5, 2009 8:58 AM

Thats pretty interesting. Maybe they could do something like that for Firefly too. Complete episodes would be better but maybe they could use something like that to warm the fans up to the idea of Firefly being saved as a fully animated show.

I am sure plenty of fans have read the comics so I am sure that those same fans would appreciate a pimped out version of the comic books too.

Also GB recently made a very good point. It is going to be tough to get live action Firefly ever again. But what do you think would be a good way to get it?

Making a succesful animated show and building our already large fan base even more couldn't hurt. In fact if you really think about it, supporting Firefly animation is probably the BEST way to get more live action stuff also.

ASARIAN

Thursday, March 5, 2009 6:42 PM

Animated Firefly, eh? Hmmm. Why, for one, it better not be Pokemon-type, low-res quality. But something between, say, Wall-E (which is more rendered, really) and Final Fantasy, The Spirits Within sure would be nice. Or would it? With something as precious as Firefly, you really, really want more; but you also really, really don't wanna see it get screwed up by something new. Joss poured his very soul into that show. For an animated version of the show I'd 'expect' at least the same high standards in dialog and such. Not that I'm really in a position to demand, or even ask, anything of Joss. But I'm just sayin' that chances for this to be 'less than' are rather real, unless Joss really gets behind it. In that case, of course, I would be behind it -- cautiously.

I'd like the original BDH cast for voices, too. And, speaking of voice-actors, let's throw in a female Commander somewhere (of an Alliance Cruiser or some such), and have her voice-acted by Jennifer Hale; cuz, darn it, that woman has the sexiest voice in the 'Verse. :) Seriously, though, it could all work, but would have to be done with much class.

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SIMONWHO

Friday, March 6, 2009 12:49 AM

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Originally posted by asarian:
Animated Firefly, eh? Hmmm. Why, for one, it better not be Pokemon-type, low-res quality. But something between, say, Wall-E (which is more rendered, really) and Final Fantasy, The Spirits Within sure would be nice.

Wall-E cost around $180m to make. Final Fantasy about $135m back in 2001.

I don't see why FOX would go for an animated series but there's no reason why fans couldn't have a crack at it themselves. Doctor Who fans have produced some interesting animated versions, from reconstructions of lost episodes:

Re-stylised as an anime:

And CGI:

What do people think about something along those lines?

VEGETA13613

Friday, March 6, 2009 1:41 AM

I think I would prefer something like a weekly or bi-weekly hour-long radio drama with the original cast over a traditional cartoon. Something like a weekly CGI show would probably be too expensive to be viable. Maybe they could put the radio drama up on iTunes for a few bucks? The Doctor Who radio drama supposedly did very well after the original series was canceled, or so I've heard.

-Erik

SCHISM

Friday, March 6, 2009 2:07 AM

Radio drama.

Interesting.

Oh, and THIS is why I'm against a Firefly cartoon.

Watch this and maybe you'll understand my fears;

http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/485797

BYTEMITE

Friday, March 6, 2009 2:53 AM

To be fair, I think that short is intended to be parody, and not a serious translation of the Watchmen.

...Point taken, however.

I'm pretty sure browncoats wouldn't allow our firefly cartoon to be like that, though.

SCHISM

Friday, March 6, 2009 3:32 AM

A parody, yes, but it's not far off from what they did to many a reputable comic-based property in the early 90's.

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
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From this;

To this;

WildCATS
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From this;

To this;

X-Men
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From this;

To this;

And for good measure, read this;
http://www.cracked.com/article_15287_10-most-disastrous-saturday-morni
ng-cartoon-adaptations.html

BYTEMITE

Friday, March 6, 2009 3:52 AM

Well that's part of the problem! You're thinking of saturday morning cartoons. Those are marketed for kids.

We're talking a prime-time cartoon on either the internet or some channel like HBO or something.

ADS

Friday, March 6, 2009 5:35 AM

GB has an animated sci-fi quadrilogy of feature films coming out soon called 'Strange Frame. The quality of animation is very good and is also serious. It is much better than what any of the fans will ever be able to make. The story also is for adults and it is as far from mainstream as you can get.

This is GB's response to some of the concerns from here that I have mailed to him,

Quote:
"I can assure you that if I'm involved it won't be made for kids or made to fit into mainstream consumption. After all, strange frame is an animated sci-fi musical starring two lesbians of color. Strange Frame has drugs, sex and a little smattering of violence. What can be further from the mainstream than that?"

He is also very sure that Firefly animation would take off with adequite fan support and he wouldn't do it without Joss's support either(also his own words).

He knows the expenses required to make live action and the comparitive costs(which are much less) of making the show animated.

He says that a slot on sci fi at a suitable time made with animation would need a fraction of the fans that would be required to make live action happen.

He also told me that most of Fireflys cast has done voice work before and he is also confident that getting at least most of the actors on board is possible.

FIDDLER

Friday, March 6, 2009 6:18 AM

Yes Thank you! I'm glad someone finally mentioned HBO. An hour long animated show fitting the criteria set up by Ash, though a more mature and gritty animation style, and a seamless blend of animation and cgi (think appleseed, the blend not the animation style). I see it lorded over (and often written) by Joss to maintain its integrity voiced by the actors, and aired on either HBO or Showtime. 12 episode seasons and they can take up to a year. The truth is the franchise has been crippled. Animation can serve a couple of purposes:

1. Extend the franchise for a few years till the time is better suited for the show to return in some form as we know it. Or at least for a movie.

2. Spark a new live action treatment in the future with a different cast and a revamped story that if done right could potentially be better than its current iteration.

3. Vindicate us Browncoats who have believed from the start.

4. Create a new generation of Browncoats that can see the franchise through their goggles and not just ours.

My only problem with a future re imagining is that a lot of what we are as Browncoats has to do with our scifi outcast status. We all quite literally united into this brilliant subculture not when the show was created but when it was canceled. As fans we literally experienced our own Battle of Serenity valley, and I don't know if a future generation could ever feel the way we do if they grow up in a situation where Firefly was always the in thing. Kind of like the Trekkies and now the BSG fans. Their spirit began with the original canceled show but the newer fans (TNG and on) are almost a different species. They are more mainstream, less fanatical, almost more savvy, and not nearly as unified. I mean look at them, they outnumber us by orders of magnitude, but we trounce them every time we cross them as fans. They have never known a Star Trek with its back against the wall. So they haven't bonded in the foxhole. Where as I was in Tucson Arizona a few months back and didn't have a place to stay because I couldn't pay, my wallet had been stolen. I was going to sleep in my car, but when in conversation I let slip that I was a Browncoat this kind lady living on her own offered me her couch for the night. A total stranger. I could have been some psycho rapist killer, but all she needed to know about me was that I'm a Browncoat, and that makes me family, or a veteran of the same battle. I of course thanked her and warned her sternly the next morning never to do that again, it's just not safe, and I certainly hope all Browncoats are not that naive. But I am eternally grateful to her for making the right call there.

Anyway I would prefer a future with some iteration of Firefly as a going concern, rather than a future with Firefly as a quaint and curious memory.

"Am I talking to Miranda now?"

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