Why not now fight for a animated firefly show?
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UPDATED: Thursday, August 29, 2024 00:25
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Good response RIPWASH, thanks. Your post makes absolute sense and I would go as far too say that you have assumed correctly and these are the main reasons why allot of fans would find it difficult to even consider discussing an animated approach. I also agree that it would help if an animated show could prove itself as a viable option. Unfortunatly, unless the fans get behind the idea of such an option first then no network would even consider making some animated material to put our reservations at ease. But that brings me to your last line.
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I would fight for an animated show, but I'd also fight for it to be done correctly.
Agreed 1000%. In my opinion I can't see any other option that would possibly bring back more firefly episodes so I would fight tooth and nail to bring an animated version of the show about. But I wouldn't JUST fight for an animated version. I am not proposing that fans just blindly get behind the idea of animation. I am proposing that they voice their support of an animated show as well as voicing the terms under which they would like to see such a show. If this idea generated enough support then anyone who actually considered giving us what we want would also have to take into account how we want it to be given to us, or else what would be the point of them making it.
Sure, there are still no guarantee's that they would make it perfect. But I can give you one guarantee. If we do nothing, then we will get nothing. But, if we do something, well we might get something.
I don't think the right thing to say is something is better than nothing.
But what I would say is no risk, no reward. Possibly no BIG reward.
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I wanted to ask also.
If any of you guys have facebook and would like to lend a hand plugging this concept on the sites fan group discussion boards then you would be doing this cause a big favor.
Also, even though the group is too small at the moment to need admins I wouldn't mind adding some now anyway as long as they are willing to put the effort in and try and help get some interest in this idea.
Let me know if anyone is interested.
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Alrighty I have just learned some interesting information that I thought was worth mentioning. On the Facebook page supporting this idea a person who is currently directing/producing sci fi animation wrote an interesting message. Aparently firefly going animated has already been proposed by their animation company a few years back. They say they could have also secured financial backing for this idea but it never happened because there was such a negative reaction from the fans that it scared away investors.
I have already expressed my love for the story of firefly and it's characters and the reasons why I personally would be happy with animation if it kept that story going. I am a little upset that this hasn't happened earlier but I don't really blame the fans. A few years ago there was probably still some legitimate hope that firefly could be resurected the way it should have been. Now however this is not as likely.
GB Hajim wrote this on the groups wall.
"I'll tell you all what: For every 10,000 fans you get on board that are committed to an animated series, I'll get my company to do animation mock ups of each of the characters. You all can choose which ones through a poll or however you like. I've put some characters in the Photo gallery here so you can see the quality of animation we are doing."
This group hasn't even been on facebook for a week and already there is a company willing to again spend time and money on firefly animation if fans are interested.
Imagine what would happen if every firefly fan in the world just said, stuff it! And got behind this idea.
Ash's reasoning was the best on this discussion. But what Brain said however,
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Put me in the "Yes" Column.
The lovely Ash said it best in her post above so I won't go repeating things.
Let's just say that if done well (like the early Batman/Dark Knight Animated series) It would make Me an ecstatic Browncoat.
If done poorly, I'll still be happy because... I'm a Browncoat.
Nuff' Said
Brian
This is all the reasoning I think should be needed.
Ultimatly though, Rallem is a model of exactly what every firefly fan would at least have to do to make this dream into a reality. And I bet it didn't even take one minute.
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I would like to see an animated series of firefly.
If you have facebook and want to see more firefly then the groups name is; Firefly, The Animated Series. If you can accept animation then just joining the group shows your support. But if you join the group and also use facebook to 'voice' your support then it will show you mean it and then the world will really take us seriously.
If you don't like the idea then you would be doing the rest of us browncoats who do want to see more firefly a big favor by not fighting it. Besides, if someone did make it you know you would at least check it out
Peace, Adam.
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Originally posted by Bytemite:
Why are we assuming again that any Firefly cartoon spin-off would automatically have to have the maturity level toned down? I missed that explanation somewhere.
I mean, heck, I'm pretty sure networks handle cartoon nudity a hell of a lot better than live action stuff. If Trash had run on Fox, you can bet there would have been censor fuzzing all over the place. Cartoon backside? Not so much.
And besides, the "cartoons are for kids mentality" died in the 1990s. Adult Swim, all the anime imports... Lead to a resurgence of cartoons marketed to teenagers and older even on the big networks.
You're right.
That is true.
It IS a different world out there.
But I've seen so many good properties destroyed utterly back in my day that I just can't shake my wariness and mistrust.
*spoken like a browncoat*
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I'm digging the "Star Wars Clone Wars" new animated series. A sleek, stylized show - yet with realistic backdrops - would work very well for Firefly. And I agree that the tone and writing could remain just as adult as the live-action version.
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By the way. When I asked fellow browncoats not to fight against this idea I didn't mean don't make your concerns heard. We all have a right to voice our opinion and I respect everybodies.
I should clarify and ask that you please voice your opinions in a constructive manner. Same go's for people who are for this idea too.
I met one person on facebook who ignored my posts, TOLD me what my motives where, made out like they where speaking for everyone and what they want and then TOLD me not to push for this to happen and that I should just re-watch the original episodes like everyone else instead of hoping that one day I might be able to see new ones.
The only thing I took from her messages was that some fans hate animation as much as they love firefly and that they think everybody else should believe like they do.
If you want to come to the group and voice you objections for this idea then please do. We will respect your opinions if you respect ours.
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If you are not confident in animation and are worried that it won't do firefly justice then you are the fans we need the most supporting this idea. Without you there will not be total support and if it was made it will not be with as big a budget. Also, more importantly, we need you to ensure that whoever would take on this project does it properly. There is nothing like hundreds of thousands of die hard fans telling you how it should be done to make you know how to do something right.
A fan prompted me to do some reaserch into the Buffy animated series that never took off. Joss was more than happy to work in animation back then and not only was he eager to do so, but he was also prepared to put in the effort to make sure his work was done to his usual high standards. Apparently the only reason that it never took off was because it was considered too adult for childrens TV and animation was not quite suitable for the mainstream prime time slots. Nowadays however there are allot more options with various cable channels catoring to almost all styles and tastes. Translation, if he made firefly animation he would still make it for the adult fans and nowadays if an adult sci fi animated like cowboy bebop can find a home then firefly can also.
Optamisticly, it would likely get picked up by a netwrork willing to give Joss more creative control then the morons at other networks. If you thought fireflys dialog and story was good with the networks dumbing it down for mainstream zombies then imagine what it would be like unfiltered straight from Joss Whedon's mind himself. If thats not a fantasy worth fighting for then I don't know what is.
If you don't use facebook but can see the chance we have here and want to help us make it a reality then there is certainly still something you can do. Fans got Serenity without the use of facebook. I don't have the knowledge or resources to make web pages or petitions but other fans do. Anyone can go to forums anywhere and discuss this idea to try and get people behind it. The more people talking about it the more chance this could actually work.
For those who do have facebook then here is the link; http://www.new.facebook.com/group.php?gid=61221961583
If you join then leaving a message of support on the wall is a great way to show your commitment. If you have concerns then voicing them in the message boards is a constructive way to ensure that this would only be done if it is going to be done right.
We don't have to give up just yet.
If you can't walk, you crawl.
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A quote from GB Hajim from Island Planet One Productions
"If we (fans) can prove that 30% of the fan base would be into an animated series, we (my company) could easily get the show to fly."
30%! Thats a cake walk. I wonder what would happen if 80% of the fans got behind it. Probably they would then be begging us to let them make an animated show catoring exactly to our excellent taste and high standards.
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An animated Firefly show would in time undermine, and then ruin the idea of the original Firefly.
-River
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