Why not now fight for a animated firefly show?

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TUJIAOZUO

Tuesday, February 10, 2009 9:01 PM

Weird double post.

ANONYMOUS1

Wednesday, February 11, 2009 3:52 AM

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Originally posted by Ads:
I only recently found out about the comic book but I havn't read them yet. They might be the last new firefly I ever get to expierience so I am going to save them.

You do know Joss is planning to do one about Book's past.

Might have a hard time finding the original comic book Serenity: Those Left Behind. 3-issue 9 collectible covers.

The graphic novels are always available.
Serenity: Those Left Behind the Graphic Novel

Serenity: Better Days Comic Books (2008)
Issue 1 of 3.

Serenity: Better Days Graphic Novel

Serenity/Firefly comic Serenity: The Other Half Online Free!
http://www.myspace.com/darkhorsepresents?issuenum=13&storynum=1

ADS

Wednesday, February 11, 2009 12:05 PM

Thanks heaps Ash. I am going to discect your post and turn it into the new group description. You will of course be given credit.

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You do know Joss is planning to do one about Book's past.

Might have a hard time finding the original comic book Serenity: Those Left Behind. 3-issue 9 collectible covers.

Yeah I did see something about books past getting revealed. I probably wont wait to read that one. I always wanted to know what the deal with him was.

Not too worried if I can't find all the comics on firefly in the shops. Those I don't the internet should provide.

I would like to ask also. I havn't even looked into the comics. Are they written by Joss or any of the other original writers of the show?

SCHISM

Wednesday, February 11, 2009 12:15 PM

Written by Joss Whedon and Brett Mathews.
Official cannon.
They're quite good - just finished them.
'Those Left Behind' takes place between the end of the series and the start of the movie. It's good, but waaay too short.
'Better Days' is longer and better IMHO, however I'm not sure where in the continuity it takes place.

ADS

Wednesday, February 11, 2009 12:47 PM

Sweet, look forward to reading them. Probably won't be for a looooong time though. I havn't actually re-watched an episode since the movie came out and don't plan to for at least ten years, maybe longer. I want to forget as much as possible so that when I do watch them again I can enjoy them even more. And I will then top it off by reading, watching or listening to anything new that has been created in that time.

There will be a few exceptions though. Get diagnosed with a terminal illness, time to watch firefly to make me feel better. Show gets ressurected, time to watch firefly and get pshyched up for new episodes. That sort of thing :)

RIPWASH

Wednesday, February 11, 2009 1:39 PM

I gotta say . . . an animated series would be sweet. But I'd have my reservations. Some of what I love about Firefly is the interaction of the crew and that can only be done if they're all there in the same room at the same time. Voice acting is most often done with each actor separately and the "give and take" just isn't there when you're used to certain people playing off each other in a certain way. One of the other things I love about the show is Mal's reactions and facial expressions. I just think that would be extremely hard to mimic in animation. I completely agree that it should NOT be kiddified in any way, shape or form. The mascot thing reminds me too much of Slimer on the animated Ghostbusters.

I'm a new fan of the show and new to the site. I'm trying my darndest to tell people I know about it, too. I watched the series and the movie in the span of a week and was extremely saddened when the movie ended. Heck, not only did my favorite character die ("I'm a leaf on the wind"), but just knowing there would be no more. I was hoping the box office was solid, but it wasn't. Great reviews on Rotten Tomatoes, though. Very solid. I'm hoping that Nathan Fillion gets real popular and he can help rally Firefly back to life :o)

Zoe: "Get it running again."
Mal: "Yeah"
Zoe: "So not running now"
Mal: "Not so much"
- Out of Gas

ADS

Wednesday, February 11, 2009 6:30 PM

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Originally posted by RIPWash:
I gotta say . . . an animated series would be sweet. But I'd have my reservations. Some of what I love about Firefly is the interaction of the crew and that can only be done if they're all there in the same room at the same time. Voice acting is most often done with each actor separately and the "give and take" just isn't there when you're used to certain people playing off each other in a certain way. One of the other things I love about the show is Mal's reactions and facial expressions. I just think that would be extremely hard to mimic in animation.

I would like to ask you something if you don't mind. I swear I am not trying to be confrontational or disrespect your opinion. I really just want try and better understand any reservations the fans have and what would be the best way to try and help them to overlook it.

I agree with what you wrote about the quality in which the characters express themselves. And for the sake of argument lets say that the animated characters don't express themselves anywhere near as much as their real life counterparts. Is this something you would be able to overlook if it meant the show would continue?

You clearly like the show and I feel for you. I was sad when I realised there would be no more episodes or movies too. And I am glad to hear you think animation would be sweet. But why even though you are sad and would like more firefly do you even mention the negative aspects of animation instead of just going, What? More firefly you say. Count me in!

Again, you would really be helping me out to let me in on your thinking.

This idea makes perfect sense to me and although I can understand why some fans would be hesitant I am really baffled as to why it doesn't have instant support from everyone who is at least as in love with the story and dialog as I am. I am a big firefly fan but I am far from the biggest. There are even people on facebook who like the idea of an animated show but don't join a cause dedicated to making this idea a reality.

If I was River it would be alright because I would just read everyones mind and use my super big brain to work out a way to convince everyone to get behind this. Since I only have a regular sized brain though I have to do this the hard way.

RIPWASH

Wednesday, February 11, 2009 7:50 PM

I'll try to explain adequately, so bear with me.

It would be my assumption that fans of the show fell in love with it for many reasons, not the least of which is the way it all came together and presented itself overall. Any deviation from that would have to "prove" itself to the fans first and foremost. We like Mal Reynolds because of the manner in which Nathan Fillion portrayed him. The same goes for the rest of the cast. We like the chemistry between Mal and Zoe, Zoe and Wash, Inara and Mal and any other combination. We liked the look and the feel of the series and movie.

Now take into account that any deviation from that fromat and you could get something mediocre or downright disasterous at worst. The series would have to "prove" itself as being a viable option for those yearning for more of the 'Verse. Different actors would add their spin to a character or you'd have someone pretending to be Nathan Fillion as Mal Reynolds and it would just be an imitation, not the real deal. Does that make sense?

Getting all the actors on board to do the voice work? That's a different story. But as I said . . . put 'em in the same room so they can play off each other and have that chemistry shine through the vocal performances.

Then the animation would have to be right. I mean there are a lot of different styles of animation and if it didn't look right or have the right feel then I may not watch it.

So in short . . . would I like to see an animated series? Absolutely!
Would I like to see an animated series that was poorly done? No. And that's why I say I'd have my reservations and would want to see what was being done first.

I would fight for an animated show, but I'd also fight for it to be done correctly.

Zoe: "Get it running again."
Mal: "Yeah"
Zoe: "So not running now"
Mal: "Not so much"
- Out of Gas

STORYMARK

Wednesday, February 11, 2009 8:50 PM

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Originally posted by SigmaNunki:
Why not an animated series? Just look at the bomb that was the Star Trek animated series just after the TOS got cancelled (even for its day). And that had fans, etc, etc, etc, behind it. Sorry, but just because it's "our" series doesn't make it any different. This is just a bad idea.

That's some seriously faulty logic. The animated Trek was bad, 'cause it was a bad show. This does not mean that everything animated will be bad.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

BYTEMITE

Wednesday, February 11, 2009 9:41 PM

Why are we assuming again that any Firefly cartoon spin-off would automatically have to have the maturity level toned down? I missed that explanation somewhere.

I mean, heck, I'm pretty sure networks handle cartoon nudity a hell of a lot better than live action stuff. If Trash had run on Fox, you can bet there would have been censor fuzzing all over the place. Cartoon backside? Not so much.

And besides, the "cartoons are for kids mentality" died in the 1990s. Adult Swim, all the anime imports... Lead to a resurgence of cartoons marketed to teenagers and older even on the big networks.

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